Duggins (5 Viewers)

[clint van damme]

You sure that wasps would have to pay it

Surely if they're the recipient of the aid from the council they would have to reimburse them?, (or make up the difference between what they paid and what they should have paid)
Unless CCC signed one of wasps famous indemnity deals.
And if they haven't got to pay anything why are they losing income with their stance over legals and the EC complaint?

 

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[Jay Cee]

SiSU hedge fund does what it say on the tin really, WASP get inside and cause rot from outside in does what it say on the tin. Council an elected body that serves the great good of the city and the people hmmmm...

 

[stupot07]

Like any statement, it's one sided and only using the facts that back up their argument, omitting anything that makes them look bad



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[MalcSB]

The council aren't in the shit if they lose its us council tax payers that are

The council have millions in reserve, which they hold on to rather than use on behalf of the local tax payer. So actually there would be no practical impact on the council taxpayer. Of course, individual councillors could be held personally culpable at some cost to themselves. The councillors don’t give a shit about the citizens of coventry: it’s their own arses they are trying to cover.

 

[MalcSB]

Didn't sisu sign something to call off all legal action going forward about the sale of the ricoh?

They may have signed up to no legal action against wasps, but that wouldn’t stop them taking action against the council, with whom they have no commercial relationship. There could end up being significant financial reparations to be made by wasps which could put them in the financial shit. Hey ho, never mind, only collateral damage.

 

[Warwickhunt]

Need a Les Reid write up now on what he knows!

 

[shepardo01]

Need a Les Reid write up now on what he knows!

Don't mention Les Reid to those Council tweeters! Just had a bit of a back and forth with CW (apparently ex council!)
He was desperate!

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

Need to hold both of these Councilors to account. The Chief Exec of Coventry CC need to reign these guys in. Bring the credibility of the whole Council down. Also need to target the Wasps sponsors !!!

 

[chiefdave]

The Chief Exec of Coventry CC need to reign these guys in.

You mean Martin Reeves who along with Chris West was one of two council execs at ACL? Presumably the two Ann Lucas was referring to when she said she hadn't repeatedly lied to the people of Coventry but instead had been given incorrect information by the council officers at ACL. Sure he'll be a great help.

 

[GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee]

Take solace that the replies are almost unanimously critical of him.

Bar that bellend John Stretton. He doesn’t even follow a single person so why have twitter? I’ve just had to mute him. Only other person I’ve ever muted was Hopkins.


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[skybluebeast]

Fucking cretin!!!

 

[Nick]

Bar that bellend John Stretton. He doesn’t even follow a single person so why have twitter? I’ve just had to mute him. Only other person I’ve ever muted was Hopkins.


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Think they are going too overboard now

 

[Lord_Nampil]

You mean Martin Reeves who along with Chris West was one of two council execs at ACL? Presumably the two Ann Lucas was referring to when she said she hadn't repeatedly lied to the people of Coventry but instead had been given incorrect information by the council officers at ACL. Sure he'll be a great help.

These two are the main reason we have been shafted while at the Ricoh!! They should be vilified as much as duggins Lucas and mutton!

 

[Nick]

You mean Martin Reeves who along with Chris West was one of two council execs at ACL? Presumably the two Ann Lucas was referring to when she said she hadn't repeatedly lied to the people of Coventry but instead had been given incorrect information by the council officers at ACL. Sure he'll be a great help.

Yeah the ones who apparently mistakenly told her ACL was doing fine? One got nearly half a mill pay off the other gets promoted to the boss of the council.

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

Yeah the ones who apparently mistakenly told her ACL was doing fine? One got nearly half a mill pay off the other gets promoted to the boss of the council.

It begs the question why are they still so involved? Is it that they are still employed somehow or are they desperate to cover their tracks?

 

[chiefdave]

Yeah the ones who apparently mistakenly told her ACL was doing fine? One got nearly half a mill pay off the other gets promoted to the boss of the council.

Unbelievable isn't it. I'm in nowhere near as senior a position as those two but if I made a mistake like that I'd be battling to keep my job. They get bonuses and promotions.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Who lets him release this stuff, writes like a petulant child. "Let me temporarily occupy a parallel universe" stay there you twat.

He already is there the tit

 

[fernandopartridge]

Duggins has inadvertently contradicted previous council rhetoric about how they insured CCFC had a home. Like I've said countless times, the council wanted that stadium as much as if not more than the club, and if obtaining it meant emasculating the club as collateral damage then no problem cos it's jobs innit.
Shame most employees at the Arena are on zero hours contracts, which Labour policy states should be banned.

 

[chiefdave]

The coverage of this from local media has again been appalling. Although it is interesting that out of four pages of rambling nonsense both CWR and the Telegraph have chosen to highlight the same factually dubious statement - namely what are SISU seeking to achieve by continuing action against CCC.

Once again neither has called out the many factual inaccuracies in his statement. Why is it over and over again Wasps and CCC can state any old rubbish without challenge yet anything that comes out of the club or SISU is examined in detail?

 

[skyblueinBaku]

What prompted him to release that statement now?

 

[jordan210]

A load of stuff going down in Gilbert’s mentions

 

[Nick]

Duggins has inadvertently contradicted previous council rhetoric about how they insured CCFC had a home. Like I've said countless times, the council wanted that stadium as much as if not more than the club, and if obtaining it meant emasculating the club as collateral damage then no problem cos it's jobs innit.
Shame most employees at the Arena are on zero hours contracts, which Labour policy states should be banned.

That's the thing, Duggins keeps contradicting and going on about re-writing history. He doesn't actually disprove anything.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What prompted him to release that statement now?

Fear

 

[chiefdave]

Nobody can be as naive as Gilbert is making himself out to be. Arguing over semantics of what happened in 2012 is a waste of time, the key point is that it was the council that approached Wasps - not the other way around.

And his claim that the Telegraph did any sort of investigative journalism is laughable. There's over 2 years between the council first speaking to Wasps and the story featuring in the Telegraph during which time we know that the Telegraph suppressed the story of the council bailout of ACL, clearing the way for the sale to Wasps, at the councils request. Can any Telegraph reader really be confident that when the story was eventually 'broken' by Gilbert it wasn't prompted by the council and their desire to present the story in a way that benefited them.

The idea that it prevented the deal being done behind closed doors is ludicrous. It was done at a council meeting closed to the public of which no record at all exists.

 

[chiefdave]

That's the thing, Duggins keeps contradicting and going on about re-writing history. He doesn't actually disprove anything.

Yet the local media refuse to pick him up on those contradictions.

Fear

Once again something the local media should be all over. If the council and Wasps are so certain they have done nothing wrong why do they appear to be so concerned about a potential EC investigation.

 

[Nick]

Nobody can be as naive as Gilbert is making himself out to be. Arguing over semantics of what happened in 2012 is a waste of time, the key point is that it was the council that approached Wasps - not the other way around.

And his claim that the Telegraph did any sort of investigative journalism is laughable. There's over 2 years between the council first speaking to Wasps and the story featuring in the Telegraph during which time we know that the Telegraph suppressed the story of the council bailout of ACL, clearing the way for the sale to Wasps, at the councils request. Can any Telegraph reader really be confident that when the story was eventually 'broken' by Gilbert it wasn't prompted by the council and their desire to present the story in a way that benefited them.

The idea that it prevented the deal being done behind closed doors is ludicrous. It was done at a council meeting closed to the public of which no record at all exists.

Wasnt it at the same time ACL were ploughing money into Weber Shandwick and their "Media War"?

 

[Nick]

Fear

Which is why ALL sides should have been pressured and hammered from the start.

Strange how people like the Trust go very quiet about things like this but are there to shake his hand and be thanked by him for protesting about SISU.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Nobody can be as naive as Gilbert is making himself out to be. Arguing over semantics of what happened in 2012 is a waste of time, the key point is that it was the council that approached Wasps - not the other way around.

And his claim that the Telegraph did any sort of investigative journalism is laughable. There's over 2 years between the council first speaking to Wasps and the story featuring in the Telegraph during which time we know that the Telegraph suppressed the story of the council bailout of ACL, clearing the way for the sale to Wasps, at the councils request. Can any Telegraph reader really be confident that when the story was eventually 'broken' by Gilbert it wasn't prompted by the council and their desire to present the story in a way that benefited them.

The idea that it prevented the deal being done behind closed doors is ludicrous. It was done at a council meeting closed to the public of which no record at all exists.

He keeps claiming that ACL and the council were different entities without acknowledging the people running ACl were heavily intertwined with CCC.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Haven’t got twitter, can someone ask him to ask why the CCC and Wasps keep trotting out the “ongoing legals” and if they can clarify and expand on what they see is “legals”

Followed by the terms - do they want CCFC/SISU to cover losses in the unlikely event the the complaint uncovers state aid?

He can’t use NDAs because Les Reid is always giving out info

 

[MusicDating]

Unbelievable isn't it. I'm in nowhere near as senior a position as those two but if I made a mistake like that I'd be battling to keep my job. They get bonuses and promotions.

Duggins harps on about the unanimous agreement of 54 councillors from all sides was a good thing and proves they were right, but to me it does just the opposite.
It smells of collusion and cover-up.
I'd argue the best way to cover up corruption is to get absolutely everyone involved. It worked (still works?...) at FIFA for years...

 

[Liquid Gold]

Haven’t got twitter, can someone ask him to ask why the CCC and Wasps keep trotting out the “ongoing legals” and if they can clarify and expand on what they see is “legals”

Followed by the terms - do they want CCFC/SISU to cover losses in the unlikely event the the complaint uncovers state aid?

He can’t use NDAs because Les Reid is always giving out info

I haven't tweeted him but I will give you his response already

"I'm not here to present an opinion just putting the facts out there"

 

[chiefdave]

Duggins harps on about the unanimous agreement of 54 councillors from all sides was a good thing and proves they were right, but to me it does just the opposite.
It smells of collusion and cover-up.

Especially if you consider the point at which they suddenly became unanimous was a meeting Wasps were at but the public banned, and of which no record was kept. Prior to that it was being reported as being very much split.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

I haven't tweeted him but I will give you his response already

"I'm not here to present an opinion just putting the facts out there"

Problem is we’ve not been asking for his opinion - we want him to investigate those

Guy is a hack, and is probably a well paid yes man

 

[Nick]

I haven't tweeted him but I will give you his response already

"I'm not here to present an opinion just putting the facts out there"

It's quite funny he goes on about that but then when I questioned something he said that was misleading he said it was "his analysis".

 

[clint van damme]

Gilbert has just put up a football tweet, trying to make out he's a supporter because he's coming under pressure. There are jelly fish less transparent than that clown.