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TTG

TTG

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Ok, thank u next
 
ccfc1234

ccfc1234

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ccfcway said:
In which case when we get to Prem , attendances will have risen and it won’t be glory hunting ccfc fans, it will be that football is a bigger game. Get your point, but I suspect that if Newcastle were in championship or below for 10 years plus, their attendances will go down as well
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When we were in the championship it was circa 16k. Not amazing, not
theferret said:
Before 2013 Bradford had not had a season average higher than ours in their entire history. Their recent higher gates are the direct result of season ticket prices. When you're paying £6.50 a game it's a no brainer. You'd only have to go to a third of the games to make it worthwhile. Their official attendances are usually way higher than the number of people in the ground.
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Right your jumping on the example I gave in Bradford as they have reduced season ticket prices.

My point was we have a fickle but huge fan base. Look at our average attendance in the championship.
 
pastythegreat

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coop said:
To be fair it's not giving the owners money as it probably being spent on wages and other things to do with the team.So the NOPM people hasn't worked they have just missed the football but I would like to know how many of them went to Wembley twice.
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Most NOPM haven't even missed the football tbf. You can't miss what you never had anyway.
My first question now when I meet a NOPMer isn't "did you go to wembley", but "before SISU, how often did you go anyway"? And it's normally only 3 or 4 times a season.
 
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theferret

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ccfc1234 said:
When we were in the championship it was circa 16k. Not amazing, not


Right your jumping on the example I gave in Bradford as they have reduced season ticket prices.

My point was we have a fickle but huge fan base. Look at our average attendance in the championship.
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Championship average (at Ricoh) was over 20K for first couple of seasons then fell away by about 1K per season until relegation. It was a decent Championship average. Fickle? Yeah, we can be of course, but then that applies to a lot of other clubs too.
 
ccfcway

ccfcway

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pastythegreat said:
Most NOPM haven't even missed the football tbf. You can't miss what you never had anyway.
My first question now when I meet a NOPMer isn't "did you go to wembley", but "before SISU, how often did you go anyway"? And it's normally only 3 or 4 times a season.
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This fancination with Wembley is bizarre.

There isn’t a single club in the land who donesn’t take day tripper fans to wembley.

Same as increases in Boxing Day attendances, big cup games etc.

It happens to every club, it’s an entertainment industry, even some season ticket holders dip in and out by not going to away games.
 
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ccfc1234

ccfc1234

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theferret said:
Championship average (at Ricoh) was over 20K for first couple of seasons then fell away by about 1K per season until relegation. It was a decent Championship average. Fickle? Yeah, we can be of course, but then that applies to a lot of other clubs too.
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For a new stadium it was okay. Based on last season's averages in the championship 16k which was out last average in that division would have made us 15th best. In away terms I think we would have been in the top 4 as our away following is superb. Anyway were not disagreeing in the main and I like you hope we can open all stands at the Ricoh soon and have a brilliant atmosphere in the ground.
 
kg82

kg82

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ccfc1234 said:
For a new stadium it was okay. Based on last season's averages in the championship 16k which was out last average in that division would have made us 15th best. In away terms I think we would have been in the top 4 as our away following is superb. Anyway were not disagreeing in the main and I like you hope we can open all stands at the Ricoh soon and have a brilliant atmosphere in the ground.
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Getting into the damn place might be a start first!
 
Nick

Nick

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ccfcway said:
This fancination with Wembley is bizarre.

There isn’t a single club in the land who donesn’t take day tripper fans to wembley.

Same as increases in Boxing Day attendances, big cup games etc.

It happens to every club, it’s an entertainment industry, even some season ticket holders dip in and out by not going to away games.
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Think you miss the point on purpose.
 
ccfcway

ccfcway

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clint van damme said:
None of those day trippers at other clubs spend the season pontificating about NOPM
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Agreed. They simply hardly go again to watch “their team” until the next game they fancy going to, which could be the odd home game or the next big cup game etc

To be fair, that’s the same with at least 95% of our day trippers. A very small percentage are due to NOPM
 
ccfcway

ccfcway

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Liquid Gold said:
None of us know the figures of NOPM in reality but I can tell you that if you go on Facebook and look at the pictures of those shouting it the loudest they more often than not have pictures of them at Wembley.
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Spot on, they are shouting the loudest. The majority that don’t go simply do not shout about it, they go and do something less boring instead.

It’s like when someone comes on here and says “that’s me, I’m finished on this site”, next post is “why you telling us, jog on”. Most just wont post
 
Liquid Gold

Liquid Gold

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ccfcway said:
Spot on, they are shouting the loudest. The majority that don’t go simply do not shout about it, they go and do something less boring instead.

It’s like when someone comes on here and says “that’s me, I’m finished on this site”, next post is “why you telling us, jog on”. Most just wont post
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Nobody argues that the majority that don't attend just can't be bothered with it any more. They are the ones we need to tempt back and get them in the swing of things again. What is frustrating is people shouting NOPM, going on about morals and calling you a scab only to enjoy the team you've helped pay for in the big one off games only to go back to type a week later.
 
ccfcway

ccfcway

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Liquid Gold said:
Nobody argues that the majority that don't attend just can't be bothered with it any more. They are the ones we need to tempt back and get them in the swing of things again. What is frustrating is people shouting NOPM, going on about morals and calling you a scab only to enjoy the team you've helped pay for in the big one off games only to go back to type a week later.
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And how many people do you think this is ?, 50, 100 ?
 
Nick

Nick

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ccfcway said:
Considering this NOPM noise, To only have 100 telling ccfc fans not to go to ccfc games in a city of 300,000 isn’t bad at all, no ?
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Depends if they are getting featured in the local newspaper every week or so.

Not too sure why you are so desperate to deny how hypocritical so many of our fans are.
 
ccfcway

ccfcway

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Nick said:
Depends if they are getting featured in the local newspaper every week or so.

Not too sure why you are so desperate to deny how hypocritical so many of our fans are.
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So many ?. It’s a very very small percentage who are hypocritical, the rest Simply aren’t bothered.
 
Adge

Adge

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covboy1987 said:
My idea of a football day is similar to some and a world away from others - It does not just the game and watching my team its the chance to meet up with your mates and talk sh--t and have a few beers - a full day out - had no plans to go to Birmingham and thought what a boring year I'm going to have - shopping or watching Jeff Stelling telling his little jokes as the goals went in - never went to Northampton would not dream of going to Burton (as the day would not appeal to me)
Birmingham came up and I was asked to go by mates immediately said NO- was then asked why? and said would not want to encourage the owners by giving them my money - Things of late have changed for me - particularly Mark Robins appeal and some of the comments and statements that at one time was pointing the finger at one party
My opinion is all three sides are to blame and they will continue arguing and debating and blaming each other but I just want to watch football -(not interested in the politics just the football) Obviously would not have the slightest issue with someone not attending but I want to back Mark Robins and the team home and away and hopefully mine and my mates money help keep Robins in control and keep, this great club going that above all everything is most important to us - Things will change into the future and hopefully we will be back home at the Ricoh before Xmas
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I’m sure that throughout the season people will be changing their minds and nothing at all wrong with that.
Of course it may go the other way too and after the novelty factor has worn off and if results are poor it may swing the other way and people may change their minds and stop going.
 
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Putting the politics aside for one moment, I’m looking forward to seeing what a difference it makes to the games by what looks to be a promising footballing side that MR has brought together, by playing on a true, even surface that is not full of lumps and cut to shreds by egg-chasers.
 
ccfcway

ccfcway

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Big_Ben said:
Putting the politics aside for one moment, I’m looking forward to seeing what a difference it makes to the games by what looks to be a promising footballing side that MR has brought together, by playing on a true, even surface that is not full of lumps and cut to shreds by egg-chasers.
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This is a great post. In no way am I disagreeing, just highlighting the vast differences between our fans
 
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