Deaths at the US border, where was the outrage before trump?? (6 Viewers)

[Evo1883]

Why nobody trusts mainstream media

Migrant deaths just over the border in the US have been rising since the mid-1990s and especially during the Obama administration. So in 1996, there were at least 87 deaths of migrants within the US border. In 2012, the year Obama was re-elected, to the whoops and cheers of liberals across the West, there were at least 463. In total, 7,216 people died crossing the US-Mexico border between 1998 and 2017. Where were the frontpage headlines? Why weren’t there massive marches when Obama visited London? Why was there no talk of ‘America’s shame’ or ‘America’s concentration camps’?

 

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[clint van damme]

Why nobody trusts mainstream media

Migrant deaths just over the border in the US have been rising since the mid-1990s and especially during the Obama administration. So in 1996, there were at least 87 deaths of migrants within the US border. In 2012, the year Obama was re-elected, to the whoops and cheers of liberals across the West, there were at least 463. In total, 7,216 people died crossing the US-Mexico border between 1998 and 2017. Where were the frontpage headlines? Why weren’t there massive marches when Obama visited London? Why was there no talk of ‘America’s shame’ or ‘America’s concentration camps’?

Obama dropped more bombs as well.
I think trump is an absolute wanker but I don't buy this narrative about Obama. Let's be honest, the last 5 or 6 POTUS have been psychopaths.

 

[fellatio_Martinez]

Obama was the biggest snake of them all but he had an amazing PR team and was extremely good with the media.

 

[Gazolba]

Any criticsm of Obama would have meant losing the black vote. Virtually every black person in the USA voted for Obama and in their eyes he was going to be the greatest President ever and solve all their problems. Of course as it turned out Obama had much more in common with the white voter than the black voter. His term was a disaster for black people. Trump has done much more for them but will get no thanks.

 

[covcity4life]

trump is scum

 

[fellatio_Martinez]

trump is scum

You should write for The Guardian with that political insight.

 

[covcity4life]

thanks, just common sense but appreciate the compliment nonetheless

 

[Cov City Daytrader 87]

You should write for The Guardian with that political insight.

Nah probably CNN or MSNBC.

 

[fellatio_Martinez]

Nah probably CNN or MSNBC.

True. He'd be a star. Americans love simple people.

 

[Evo1883]

trump is scum

Honestly, what are your reasons?

 

[clint van damme]

Honestly, what are your reasons?

I hate him as well. His racism, he's a sexual predator, his appalling attitude to handicapped people, his insensitivity.

I just don't buy the narrative he took over from some sort of saint and I also hate Hilary so don't think there was a better alternative on offer to the American people.

 

[Evo1883]

I hate him as well. His racism, he's a sexual predator, his appalling attitude to handicapped people, his insensitivity.

I just don't buy the narrative he took over from some sort of saint and I also hate Hilary so don't think there was a better alternative on offer to the American people.

I dont buy the racism, it just isn't happening.
Sexual predator? Come on now thats insanity.

In regards to being insensitive, I would suggest we've all become over sensitive and it's created a world of disastrous policies

With trump, you just can't take what the media say as gospel, the lies they tell are astonishing.

He was a media darling until he ran for president, says it all

 

[clint van damme]

I dont buy the racism, it just isn't happening.
Sexual predator? Come on now thats insanity.

In regards to being insensitive, I would suggest we've all become over sensitive and it's created a world of disastrous policies

With trump, you just can't take what the media say as gospel, the lies they tell are astonishing

In the last week:
he told American citizens to go home.
A video of him appeared on social media groping a young woman without her permission from behind, ( it was a copy cat of Savile groping that young woman on top of the pops). Albeit it was old footage.
Spoke with no tact at all to that young Yazidi girl whose family had been killed by ISIS.
That's in the last week FFS.
And dorru, but finding taking the piss out of someone who is handicapped appalling, or any of the other things I've mentioned isn't being over sensitive and I don't want to live in a society where it is considered to be so.

 

[covcity4life]

Clint has destroyed you there evo1883

 

[clint van damme]

Clint has destroyed you there evo1883

To be fair mate it's just a debate. I'm not trying to destroy anyone as Evo isn't trying to destroy me, keep it civil!

I think part the problem is that Obama was a bogey man for the right and so certain sections of the left cheered him on regardless of what he did and didn't really look to much at his actual actions.

I think we've got a vice versa situation now with Trump, both are poor leaders in my opinion.

 

[Evo1883]

In the last week:
he told American citizens to go home.
A video of him appeared on social media groping a young woman without her permission from behind, ( it was a copy cat of Savile groping that young woman on top of the pops). Albeit it was old footage.
Spoke with no tact at all to that young Yazidi girl whose family had been killed by ISIS.
That's in the last week FFS.
And dorru, but finding taking the piss out of someone who is handicapped appalling, or any of the other things I've mentioned isn't being over sensitive and I don't want to live in a society where it is considered to be so.

He's right though, if they hate America they should go back to where they come from and then they will see just how great America is... Perfectly normal response to the anti American Democrats, one of which is a terrorist sympathiser and one who took fake photos at the US border

 

[covcity4life]

now is much worse. at least obama wud have tried to hide it. this guy is racist as fuck. 100 tweetd about islamic terrorists. nz mosque shooting,1 tweet condemning it and then moves on. so obvious but dumb chavs fall for it

bet dumb cunts happy boris is PM too

have no time for people who support evil even if they are ccfc fans

 

[Evo1883]

Clint has destroyed you there evo1883

I asked you, and you haven't answered tbh, and there has been no destroying by anybody

 

[covcity4life]

love it or leave it!

just dont change it to make it better lmao

 

[covcity4life]

no need clint has laid it all out 4 u already

I asked you, and you haven't answered tbh, and there has been no destroying by anybody

 

[Evo1883]

now is much worse. at least obama wud have tried to hide it. this guy is racist as fuck. 100 tweetd about islamic terrorists. nz mosque shooting,1 tweet condemning it and then moves on. so obvious but dumb chavs fall for it

bet dumb cunts happy boris is PM too

have no time for people who support evil even if they are ccfc fans

Evil?

I didn't know you were so fragile bud, you would t know evil if it slapped you in the face ffs lol

 

[covcity4life]

cool story bro

 

[Evo1883]

In the last week:
he told American citizens to go home.
A video of him appeared on social media groping a young woman without her permission from behind, ( it was a copy cat of Savile groping that young woman on top of the pops). Albeit it was old footage.
Spoke with no tact at all to that young Yazidi girl whose family had been killed by ISIS.
That's in the last week FFS.
And dorru, but finding taking the piss out of someone who is handicapped appalling, or any of the other things I've mentioned isn't being over sensitive and I don't want to live in a society where it is considered to be so.

So let's look at the alternative, a man who said hurty words or a women who helped enable ISIS, a women that was happy to cover up the deaths of US soldiers in benghazi, a women who was happy to destroy a young girl her husband had sexual relations with just to keep the campaign money coming in.
Reality is, trump speaks to normal Americans in a way career politicians simply can't.. Which is why he won.. The USA is doing well, which barely ever gets reported on

 

[covcity4life]

oh always look at it from other side, lets not forget the bad on both sides of protest between white power nazis and anti fascists

bad on both sides.....

 

[Evo1883]

now is much worse. at least obama wud have tried to hide it. this guy is racist as fuck. 100 tweetd about islamic terrorists. nz mosque shooting,1 tweet condemning it and then moves on. so obvious but dumb chavs fall for it

bet dumb cunts happy boris is PM too

have no time for people who support evil even if they are ccfc fans

Again though people like you said nothing when Obama was dropping drones on innocent people, said nothing about deaths at the US border under Obama.. Said nothing about him enabling ISIS... Are you just confused or willfully ignorant?

 

[covcity4life]

Again though people like you said nothing when Obama was dropping drones on innocent people, said nothing about deaths at the US border under Obama.. Said nothing about him enabling ISIS... Are you just confused or willfully ignorant?

got proof i didnt? because i remember sharing many articles about it on my FB back when i used to use it

is this all you do? lie? or are you confused? maybe just willfully ignorant?

 

[clint van damme]

He's right though, if they hate America they should go back to where they come from and then they will see just how great America is... Perfectly normal response to the anti American Democrats, one of which is a terrorist sympathiser and one who took fake photos at the US border

He would never say that to a white person

 

[Evo1883]

got proof i didnt? because i remember sharing many articles about it on my FB back when i used to use it

is this all you do? lie? or are you confused? maybe just willfully ignorant?

Riiight, so what we've established is in fact you prefer the person who did more evil and damage than trump has ever done?

Understood

 

[Evo1883]

He would never say that to a white person

Ignoring the fact that ilhan omar is actually Somalian, hence why he probably said it... Somalia is a dangerous shit hole

 

[fatso]

trump is scum

As much as I think Trump is a complete cock,
I thank god that Hillary Clinton didnt win the election, can you imagine a world with that war mongering fuck wit in power?
I prefer a world with a racist, misogynist, sex pest in charge, but no bombs raining down, to one with armageddon around every corner.

 

[clint van damme]

Riiight, so what we've established is in fact you prefer the person who did more evil and damage than trump has ever done?

Understood

Hasn't done as much evil and damage yet!

 

[Evo1883]

Hasn't done as much evil and damage yet!

We can agree on that

 

[clint van damme]

We can agree on that

Turning it around what do you like about him?
Or is it a case of best of a bad bunch?

 

[covcity4life]

Riiight, so what we've established is in fact you prefer the person who did more evil and damage than trump has ever done?

Understood

back to lying because u r losing argument?

u have lied twice now saying i prefer obama to trump. i have just told you back in day i used to annoy ppl on my fb timeline with articles about unjustness under his regime

r u being willfully ignorant again?

 

[Evo1883]

Turning it around what do you like about him?
Or is it a case of best of a bad bunch?

Let's say I'm not actually particularly fond of him believe it or not.
But away from the media hysteria, he's done a good job

Manufacturing up over 70%
More People of colour in work and out of poverty
He's tough and no nonsense, world leaders despite what the media say wouldn't take there chances fucking with America anymore, that's the reality.
Set out to reform the awful prison system in America.
Set out new guidelines to tackle HIV/Aids in America
Helped unions stop companies taking advantage of Mexican workers who were being underpaid by the US border
Appointed the first female CIA director
Lowest unemployment rate for Americans without a diploma ever

To name a few