What is going on with the Tory leadership contest? (11 Viewers)

[Grendel]

They’re not low enough according to the majority of people who have spoken out about their experience of working with him in office.

I thought they described him as an irrational opportunist and a chancer?

 

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[skybluetony176]

I thought they described him as an irrational opportunist and a chancer?

Chaotic seems to be the first word from most lips, spending most their time putting out the fires he’s lit comes a close second. Then there’s the history of the people he surrounds himself with. Look how many forced comings and goings there was as his time as Mayor, first year especially.

 

[clint van damme]

Which is wasted on a significant number of you folks. You're neg-'eds on almost everything

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I bet your one of those people who wanted Kevin Keegan as England manager because of his passion, totally neglecting the fact that he was tactically illiterate.

 

[skybluetony176]

I bet your one of those people who wanted Kevin Keegan as England manager because of his passion, totally neglecting the fact that he was tactically illiterate.

He’d loved it

 

[shmmeee]

Come on shmmeee

Gammon is a word reserved for outcast left wing self hating activists on a university campus, not a grown adult with actual life experience.
You're better than that

It fits this lot pretty well.



I also use SJW to keep it balanced. I will continue to rip the piss out of all ill-educated shriekers of whatever political hue thanks

 

[Grendel]

Chaotic seems to be the first word from most lips, spending most their time putting out the fires he’s lit comes a close second. Then there’s the history of the people he surrounds himself with. Look how many forced comings and goings there was as his time as Mayor, first year especially.

So plenty of handouts are indeed likely.

 

[Evo1883]

It fits this lot pretty well.

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I also use SJW to keep it balanced. I will continue to rip the piss out of all ill-educated shriekers of whatever political hue thanks

But, most people who say gammon.. Look like gammon themselves... Its always been an illogical term

 

[shmmeee]

But, most people who say gammon.. Look like gammon themselves... Its always been an illogical term

And most people that say SJW look like they’ve never seen boobs.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

 

[Evo1883]

And most people that say SJW look like they’ve never seen boobs.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

LOL true

 

[SBAndy]

Given his expenses overclaim in 2009, allowing lobbyists to join official overseas trips & allegedly to access MOD files, reports he excuse climate change denials & his firm backing of Jeremy Hunt - that cannot be a surprise can it? Untrustworthy & nailed his colours to a different mast.

Raab same mast as Boris & has been involved in Brexit intricacies. All makes perfect sense to me.

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Don’t think anyone will be arguing Fox deserved to keep his role. But...

 

[skybluetony176]

So plenty of handouts are indeed likely.

To who? We know about those who earn over £50K a year but what’s he going to do for those that rely on food banks despite being in full time employment for instance?

 

[Grendel]

To who? We know about those who earn over £50K a year but what’s he going to do for those that rely on food banks despite being in full time employment for instance?

I’m talking about the things referred to from Clint Tony - homeless don’t vote so they can keeping pretending they need food banks and use their I phone to find the way there

 

[skybluetony176]

I’m talking about the things referred to from Clint Tony - homeless don’t vote so they can keeping pretending they need food banks and use their I phone to find the way there

I wasn’t talking about the homeless using food bank I was talking about full time professional workers. Let’s take the nursing profession for example. The new PM was very quick to use senior nurses as an example of someone who will benefit from his proposed tax cuts for those earning over £50K. They are of course the minority of nursing staff at the top of the pyramid, what about the majority at the other end? Many of who rely on food banks? How is he going to become this great all embracing leader you talk about?

 

[SkyblueBazza]

I bet your one of those people who wanted Kevin Keegan as England manager because of his passion, totally neglecting the fact that he was tactically illiterate.

What...the same Kevin Keegan that saved Newcastle from relegation from what now equates to The Championship? And then took them up as Champions? Then 3rd in the Premiership? ...I could go on because there were more achievements for this tactically inept idiot.

Or is it you that is the idiot? He wasn't best equipped for international management thst is true. Maybe anyone that fails to bring home the Euro Championship &/or World Cup is an abject failure to you!?

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[SkyblueBazza]

He’d loved it

Yep...same comments apply to you as for Clint really.



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[clint van damme]

What...the same Kevin Keegan that saved Newcastle from relegation from what now equates to The Championship? And then took them up as Champions? Then 3rd in the Premiership? ...I could go on because there were more achievements for this tactically inept idiot.

Or is it you that is the idiot? He wasn't best equipped for international management thst is true. Maybe anyone that fails to bring home the Euro Championship &/or World Cup is an abject failure to you!?

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I was talking about his woeful tenure as England manager when people wanted him because of his passion and enthusiasm when really it's nous and know how and a credible plan that's needed, and that appears to be your attitude towards Boris.
As for Keegans time at Newcastle, he spent millions of John Halls money and still spunked a 12 point lead.
Let's see who's money Boris is going to spunk in order to implement everything he said in his speech today, or do you think he can pay for it with enthusiasm and positive thinking?

 

[Grendel]

I wasn’t talking about the homeless using food bank I was talking about full time professional workers. Let’s take the nursing profession for example. The new PM was very quick to use senior nurses as an example of someone who will benefit from his proposed tax cuts for those earning over £50K. They are of course the minority of nursing staff at the top of the pyramid, what about the majority at the other end? Many of who rely on food banks? How is he going to become this great all embracing leader you talk about?

Why would nurses rely on food banks unless they are spending above their means?

 

[skybluetony176]

Why would nurses rely on food banks unless they are spending above their means?

Because they’re on shit wages and work in areas where the cost of living is unaffordable to them. You do understand that this isn’t a hypothetical scenario? This is actually happening.

 

[Grendel]

Because they’re on shit wages and work in areas where the cost of living is unaffordable to them. You do understand that this isn’t a hypothetical scenario? This is actually happening.

So when labour were last in power and given the tax breaks offered how better off were nurses then compared to now?

 

[SkyblueBazza]

I was talking about his woeful tenure as England manager when people wanted him because of his passion and enthusiasm when really it's nous and know how and a credible plan that's needed, and that appears to be your attitude towards Boris.
As for Keegans time at Newcastle, he spent millions of John Halls money and still spunked a 12 point lead.
Let's see who's money Boris is going to spunk in order to implement everything he said in his speech today, or do you think he can pay for it with enthusiasm and positive thinking?

"Appears" being the operative word. You obviously didn't read previous comments I've made.
Basically I am amazed the Tory members have such a short memory & voted him as leader (maybe they decided given the referendum outcome he was overall the lesser of several evils...they know he might get the Brexit thing done but sooner or later is likely to fuck up majorly & resign).

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[SkyblueBazza]

I was talking about his woeful tenure as England manager when people wanted him because of his passion and enthusiasm when really it's nous and know how and a credible plan that's needed, and that appears to be your attitude towards Boris.
As for Keegans time at Newcastle, he spent millions of John Halls money and still spunked a 12 point lead.
Let's see who's money Boris is going to spunk in order to implement everything he said in his speech today, or do you think he can pay for it with enthusiasm and positive thinking?

As far as the Keegan thing goes...I reckon 90% of fans would welcome him to their clubs...entertaining football most likely...tainted by overall falling at the last hurdle. Perhaps there are much better examples for the point you were trying to make

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[skybluetony176]

So when labour were last in power and given the tax breaks offered how better off were nurses then compared to now?

So it’s labours fault then? What is boris going to do to correct that then? Aside from reclassifying eating as a luxury and something you should give up so as to not live beyond your means.

 

[clint van damme]

As far as the Keegan thing goes...I reckon 90% of fans would welcome him to their clubs...entertaining football most likely...tainted by overall falling at the last hurdle. Perhaps there are much better examples for the point you were trying to make

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Perhaps there are better examples but my response was to your reply about people being negative.

Boris reeled of a (costly) list today of things he's going to do but did not mention once how it's going to be paid for.
Asking that question isn't being negative, it's being sensible. Anyone who answers that with stop being negative is being gullible as far as im concerned.

 

[Grendel]

So it’s labours fault then? What is boris going to do to correct that then? Aside from reclassifying eating as a luxury and something you should give up so as to not live beyond your means.

I honestly don’t know what you are talking about.

Has the standard of living worsened for nurses over the time period? It terms of net pay it hasn’t. So how were they lining before foodbanks offered free food Tony?

 

[skybluetony176]

I honestly don’t know what you are talking about.

Has the standard of living worsened for nurses over the time period? It terms of net pay it hasn’t. So how were they lining before foodbanks offered free food Tony?

You’re not really this stupid. It’s an act isn’t it?

 

[Grendel]

You’re not really this stupid. It’s an act isn’t it?

I think you are acting. Did nurses use food banks under the last labour government?

 

[skybluetony176]

I think you are acting. Did nurses use food banks under the last labour government?

It’s a simple point. What is the current “all embracing” PM going to do to correct the dependence of food banks. I’m pretty sure that neither Brown or Blair are in a position of authority to address it so I’m not sure why they’re part of your act. It’s not just nurses, people with erratic pay (zero hours contracts) use them, people caught up the universal credit fiasco, professional people in full time employment, an estimated 4% of food bank users have a university degree. The notion that food banks are there to feed uneducated, lazy scroungers living beyond their means is very misplaced. Now, I’m sure a tax cut for people earning over £50K is going to greatly reduce the numbers of people dependent on food banks but what about those that can’t count on that tax cut?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Boris thinks acting like an arrogant tosser will get everything accomplished. Oh my goodness. Gonna be hilarious 3 months

 

[SkyblueBazza]

Perhaps there are better examples but my response was to your reply about people being negative.

Boris reeled of a (costly) list today of things he's going to do but did not mention once how it's going to be paid for.
Asking that question isn't being negative, it's being sensible. Anyone who answers that with stop being negative is being gullible as far as im concerned.

Unless you ask a Labour wannabe Prime Minister or Minister or MP?

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[clint van damme]

Unless you ask a Labour wannabe Prime Minister or Minister or MP?

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Sorry you've lost me?

 

[dancers lance]

The hilarity of BJ becoming PM was quickly trumped by the uber hilarity of JC coming out today as a remainer, I man who has hated the EU project for his entire political life often voting against his own party from the back benches to cement the point, what a spineless little shit.

 

[clint van damme]

The hilarity of BJ becoming PM was quickly trumped by the uber hilarity of JC coming out today as a remainer, I man who has hated the EU project for his entire political life often voting against his own party from the back benches to cement the point, what a spineless little shit.

You didn't hear what Corbyn said did you?
He said he would back remain over a no deal. Not quite the same thing, many will consider it fence sitting and weak leadership, others will think that's the right to do while they see if Boris's tenure goes as badly as some our predicting.
Why split his own party (further) by coming out one way or the other when there is potentially a GE around the corner?

If you want to see a proper u turn on the EU look up Boris's speech making the case for letting Turkey compared with his recent rhetoric.

 

[covmark]

You didn't hear what Corbyn said did you?
He said he would back remain over a no deal. Not quite the same thing, many will consider it fence sitting and weak leadership, others will think that's the right to do while they see if Boris's tenure goes as badly as some our predicting.
Why split his own party (further) by coming out one way or the other when there is potentially a GE around the corner?

If you want to see a proper u turn on the EU look up Boris's speech making the case for letting Turkey compared with his recent rhetoric.

Whataboutery and deflection at its finest. Johnson is a first class idiot. Corbyn however is a dangerous idiot.

Get rid of the lot of them.

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[clint van damme]

Whataboutery and deflection at its finest. Johnson is a first class idiot. Corbyn however is a dangerous idiot.

Get rid of the lot of them.

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There was nothing wrong with what Corbyn said but his delivery is so flat.
He's tried to move away from this vicious style of political debate but it's not working.

He should have anticipated Johnson making a comment about him changing position on the EU, which was quite funny to be honest, and got in their first bringing up Johnson's own flip flopping on the subject.
Everything Johnson said was either a lie or lacked substance and he let him get away with it with it which is poor.
The SNP guy gave Johnson a much harder time.

 

[dancers lance]

You didn't hear what Corbyn said did you?
He said he would back remain over a no deal. Not quite the same thing, many will consider it fence sitting and weak leadership, others will think that's the right to do while they see if Boris's tenure goes as badly as some our predicting.
Why split his own party (further) by coming out one way or the other when there is potentially a GE around the corner?

If you want to see a proper u turn on the EU look up Boris's speech making the case for letting Turkey compared with his recent rhetoric.

"You didn't hear what Corbyn said did you?" Of course not, because unlike you, I'm an idiot.