Kastaneer, Allen, Godden (11 Viewers)

torchomatic

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I remember Mowbray saying that Bulgarian lad was too good for lge 1 level - and he blatantly wasn’t as it turned out

Ah, but that was Tony Mowbray, who really wasn't the best.
 

Mcbean

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Must be so frustrating for MR that all them are injured and as the longer they go on like that elongates all of them playing together which we need as we know
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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Kelly has to play further forward and trust the defence, remove Shipley he is to slow
 

Hobo

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That’s correct and we don’t have the players at our disposal to play 4-3-3 do we?

Because Cov fans only accept 4-4-2 as a viable formation and that only works if Carl Baker is in it.
 

skybluegod

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That’s correct and we don’t have the players at our disposal to play 4-3-3 do we?

Not what you said though is it? You said you can't play it in league one.

What formation would you recommend then? I would say we do have the players to play 4-3-3. In fact it seems to suit our players best. To clarify I am talking about our best team.
 

cc84cov

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Not what you said though is it? You said you can't play it in league one.

What formation would you recommend then? I would say we do have the players to play 4-3-3. In fact it seems to suit our players best. To clarify I am talking about our best team.
443 will work with the correct front 3 Liverpool play it perfect.
 

CCFC54321

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Not what you said though is it? You said you can't play it in league one.

What formation would you recommend then? I would say we do have the players to play 4-3-3. In fact it seems to suit our players best. To clarify I am talking about our best team.

4-3-3 is a formation that sides with top quality teams can work with. It’s a formation that relies on two wide that support the forward straight away or either one of the wide men support the forward player. Last season we never had a centre forward that you could play off or a wide player that linked up with the forward. If we did we would of got more goals. Either the forwards we have are not good enough or the systems at fault. My thoughts on reflection are it’s a bit of both.

The forwards we have are hit and miss (more often miss) we also don’t at this moment have that link up number 10 to support a forward in his own. My fear is the new boy will be isolated and frustrated with this system. The advantages with 4-3-3 is we don’t often get over run in midfield but most sides will eventually start playing over the top of us.

Just my thoughts and I respect other people’s opinion. It’s just not a system for me as I think we could get a lot more out of the squad with 4-4-2.

PUSB
 

cc84cov

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4-3-3 is a formation that sides with top quality teams can work with. It’s a formation that relies on two wide that support the forward straight away or either one of the wide men support the forward player. Last season we never had a centre forward that you could play off or a wide player that linked up with the forward. If we did we would of got more goals. Either the forwards we have are not good enough or the systems at fault. My thoughts on reflection are it’s a bit of both.

The forwards we have are hit and miss (more often miss) we also don’t at this moment have that link up number 10 to support a forward in his own. My fear is the new boy will be isolated and frustrated with this system. The advantages with 4-3-3 is we don’t often get over run in midfield but most sides will eventually start playing over the top of us.

Just my thoughts and I respect other people’s opinion. It’s just not a system for me as I think we could get a lot more out of the squad with 4-4-2.

PUSB
Mainly the wide man need to be very good hence Salah & Mane for Liverpool we’re trying to do the same with Hiwula & Jobello & no established centre forward
 

CCFC54321

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Mainly the wide man need to be very good hence Salah & Mane for Liverpool we’re trying to do the same with Hiwula & Jobello & no established centre forward
Exactly. We don’t have that level of quality. I get what robins is trying to do but I don’t think it will work.

McFadzean said after the Southend game in the corporate suites that after burton played them that although city were a good side burton felt we just didn’t look a threat going forward. The Southend game was a repeat of last season over again. He also said the forwards when they do get a chance have got to be more ruthless.
 

cc84cov

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Exactly. We don’t have that level of quality. I get what robins is trying to do but I don’t think it will work.

McFadzean said after the Southend game in the corporate suites that after burton played them that although city were a good side burton felt we just didn’t look a threat going forward. The Southend game was a repeat of last season over again. He also said the forwards when they do get a chance have got to be more ruthless.
I would be tempted to try the 4231 with Kastanner in brights role from last season when he is back or we could try Jodi Jones in that role once he’s back;failing that 2 up front in a 442 or something I’m sick of seeing our striker isolated feeding off scraps,24 shots yesterday we need to become clinical i hope Godden is that man else we’re fucked I said pre season I didn’t see where the goals were coming from.

Marosi
Dabo Hyam Mcfadz Mason
Kelly Allen
Jobello Kastanner Hiwula
Godden

Or

Marosi
Dabo hyam McFadz Mason
Jobello Kelly Allen Shipley
Hiwula Godden
 

shmmeee

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Bollocks. You don’t need top players to play 433. It’s a fairly straight forward system. Other teams at this level have played it. Just need to be a bit more aggressive with it than we are.
 

cc84cov

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Bollocks. You don’t need top players to play 433. It’s a fairly straight forward system. Other teams at this level have played it. Just need to be a bit more aggressive with it than we are.
Not top players but the right type of intelligent player defending from the front out of position squeezing their defence & a willingness to work off the ball in possession movement is the key firmino,salah & mane do it so well,ie “aggression” as you’ve said.Them front 3 need to work as a unit in & out of possession for it to be successful very early days yet.
 

CCFC54321

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Bollocks. You don’t need top players to play 433. It’s a fairly straight forward system. Other teams at this level have played it. Just need to be a bit more aggressive with it than we are.
So you believe it’s down to aggression?
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

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Thought Godden showed enough to see he’s going to score goals this year. Once he gets used to whichever system we play and his teammates, he’s going to be a constant threat and will keep defences in their toes.

Looking forward to seeing Allen play. Think he could be the key to MR’s plans for the season.
 

Nick

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I think Kastaneer will give us something different but I am not sure he will have the workrate of Hiwula on the left so Mason might be left a bit more exposed.

Allen coming back will be a massive bonus, in the friendlies he stood out for being everywhere and making runs into the box.

I am not sure about Godden, I don't know how well he will do in our system because until Biamou went more central he looked very isolated.
 

cc84cov

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Yeah, we overplay far too much, which is why we will struggle again against teams that want to park the bus/bottom 6 teams but will do well against better teams that want to play more open.


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This is why in a 2 up front Godden & a target type man you can hit that target man quick & play off him I’ve never been a massive fan of these 1 striker formations at the level we play at,Chaplin was the same struggled playing alone my fear is Godden will be the same left isolated.
 

torchomatic

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Same achievement as robins in lesgue 1 with us. Partial winner of checkatrade like robins

Oh wait i guess you dont like mark robins?

Wow

on the contrary, I LOVE Mark Robins. To bits. To absolute bits. Totally devoted. Best manager for the last quarter of a century.

You forgot to mention the promotion down to Robins. Just saying.
 

covcity4life

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on the contrary, I LOVE Mark Robins. To bits. To absolute bits. Totally devoted. Best manager for the last quarter of a century.

You forgot to mention the promotion down to Robins. Just saying.
And you never mentioned mowbray has got promoted frim league 1 recently. Just saying
 

Grendel

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And you never mentioned mowbray has got promoted frim league 1 recently. Just saying

Because it was with another club with a whacking budget
 

torchomatic

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And you never mentioned mowbray has got promoted frim league 1 recently. Just saying

Not for us, don't care what he does anywhere else. I only care about what OUR manager does.
 

GaryJones

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Does anyone else on here remember in the 70s under Gordon Milne when we played 4-2-4 - christ that was so exciting!
 

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