Sky_Blue_Daz
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I work as a carer I’m gonna need to someone to look after me at work
Tories plan to raise retirement age to 75 (6 Viewers)
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Sick Boy
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You’d think that the Brexit boom would mean they could reduce it if anything.
No doubt the cap doffers will vote for it as well.
Otis
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The powers that be seem to want us to not have happy retirements don't they.
People are living longer, but at 75 you are much more likely to have health issues that curtail a lot of things you could maybe doing at 65.
I know I have arthritis in my fingers and knees. Not too bad now, but I hate to think how bad it might be by the time I get to 75.
People are living longer, but at 75 you are much more likely to have health issues that curtail a lot of things you could maybe doing at 65.
I know I have arthritis in my fingers and knees. Not too bad now, but I hate to think how bad it might be by the time I get to 75.
It's already onerous to a construction worker, there has to be some leeway between careers involving physical heavy work and those those that are sedentary for example.
It can't and shouldn't be imposed on a crude measure of age only.
All my joints are shot at 62
Osteoporosis arthritis in wrists knuckles knees and ankles. Probably declining from around age 50.
fernandopartridge
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Do you think they seriously give a fuck? Ironically it's older voters who back the Tories, turkeys voting for Christmas.
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clint van damme
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Don't worry, by the time they've dismantled the NHS and relaxed food standards so the Yanks can flood us with their shite none of is will live that long anyway
Sick Boy
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Come on mate, it’s people like you that have led to this happening. You should be grateful you’re even being allowed a pension.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Interesting they normally concentrate on screwing the younger in society but this marks a change to screw the elderly as well. Also unsurprising that the recommendation came from an Iain Duncan-Smith think tank.
skybluetony176
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If we all use the magical power of positive thinking we’ll have the pension aged reduced to 55 in no time, if we’re extra positive we’ll all be on final salary pensions too. If you’re negative it won’t happen and you’ll only have yourselves to blame. Fact.
Johnnythespider
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Thankyou sir, tugs forelock
skybluetony176
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We’re really lucky. Master Rees-Mogg has been promising us all shoes on our feet. Shoes on our feet! In 2019? Imagine. We’ve never had it so good. What a fantastic time to be a pleb.
stupot07
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Life expectancy is increasing, the elderly cost the government more money. This smacks of the tories wanting to lower life expectancy. With the added physical mental stress more people will die whilst still working age.
What a bunch of c***ts.
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What a bunch of c***ts.
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Houchens Head
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I'm 66. Retired years ago (health reasons). Does this mean I'll have to go back to work? :emoji_smile: :emoji_smile: :emoji_thinking: :emoji_thinking: :banghead:
clint van damme
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Plenty of people have no option, they have to.
Grendel
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People can take personal pensions? They’d be a cut off so plenty older would be able to claim at the age now and there little excuse for anyone under 35 now to save. What is a state pension worth?
clint van damme
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Think it's about 600 quid a month for a couple.
Some people simply don't have enough to make adequate provisions.
With people living longer I understand the need to raise retirement age but 75 is a piss take.
fernandopartridge
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Significant numbers of people earn barely enough for here and now, 7m people are paid so poorly that they're entitled to tax credit. Where is the pension contribution coming from?
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Terry Gibson's perm
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75 is ok for an mp with all the time off etc but in the real world it doesn’t work.
Grendel
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The strange thing is the countries in Europe that have the highest happiness ratings also have the highest retirement age - those in Scandinavia
This is not even a policy of course but a story in certain newspapers based off a think tank. It’s also worth noting several Eu countries are reviewing this post 2020 due to line expectancy
The issue of course again is the same as the NHS free for all statement. Do I need the state pension? No. Will I claim it? Yes
The fact the likes of say Richard Branson could claim if domiciled here is absurd
skybluetony176
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Scandinavian countries tend to have flexible pension ages not highest. State pension kicks in in Sweden at 65, Denmark 67 and Norway 67. Also the reason that they’re happy is not related to retirement age it’s related to a good work life balance and decent national health care. Easier to work later when your standard of life is better.
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Work life balance
Grendel
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Which is ironic isn’t it when many use these countries as examples of why prison sentences are shorter and this is presented back as an argument against longer sentences in this country - which is why I made the point
Norway has a link to life expectancy and several other countries around Europe are reviewing and many are expecting to raise the age
skybluetony176
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Prison sentences are shorter in Scandinavia as the emphasis is on rehabilitation not punishment, they then exit prison into a better welfare system than we do so transition back into functioning members of society is much higher and reoffending rates are much lower.
Still not sure what prison sentences in Scandinavian countries has to do with raising the pension age in the UK thought. Clearly you need some houses to go round.
Grendel
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Oh dear. It’s do to with the fact these countries have different social and population demographics
skybluetony176
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As I’ve pointed out to you so I’m not sure why you’re telling me oh dear when you’re the one trying to make out that raising the pension age to 75 will be OK because the Scandinavian countries are the happiest countries in the world. There’s more behind that happiness than retirement age.
skybluesam66
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£168.60 per week each for new pensioners
Yep office workers who often earn more than physical workers anyway and can easily keep doing it longer.
dutchman
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In theory yes. In practice most new pensioners receive less than that.The Department for Work and Pensions says the average weekly sum being paid to people eligible for the new State pension is £154.70. 37% of pensioners claiming under the new system are receiving less than £150 a week.
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OffenhamSkyBlue
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The amount you're entitled to depends on whether your company pension scheme opted you out of the State earnings-related pension scheme or not.
OffenhamSkyBlue
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The issue here is not just that they won't have to pay the state pension until later, but that there will be more people continuing to pay tax and NI into the coffers.
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Assuming there are the jobs, and they'#re not just paying unemployment benefit instead.