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Brighton Sky Blue

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I was a bit puzzled to find that when I looked up Nathan Lyons on Wikipedia, I found that he was in fact NOT related to Lee Burge.

How odd.

That'll haunt him, but you could go on and on with 'what if's in this match. What if Labuschagne hadn't been dropped 3 times, what if we had batted sanely in the 1st innings...
 

xcraigx

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Outrageous innings by Ben Stokes. We've witnessed something truly special in the past few weeks from him. I'll need to watch the highlights later to doubly make sure we've won that because I cannot believe it.
 

CCFCSteve

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Outrageous innings by Ben Stokes. We've witnessed something truly special in the past few weeks from him. I'll need to watch the highlights later to doubly make sure we've won that because I cannot believe it.

100% agree. To do it once in the most high pressured of circumstances was unbelievable, twice, you’re right, truly outrageous !
 

Grendel

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I was a bit puzzled to find that when I looked up Nathan Lyons on Wikipedia, I found that he was in fact NOT related to Lee Burge.

How odd.

To be honest if the captain even mentioned it I’m sure he’d remind him if he hadn’t sanctioned a ridiculous review in the previous over it would not have mattered
 

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To be honest if the captain even mentioned it I’m sure he’d remind him if he hadn’t sanctioned a ridiculous review in the previous over it would not have mattered


It was madness and the kind of madness that can cost you
 

Grendel

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It was madness and the kind of madness that can cost you

Likewise Root should have have had Leech out at the crease at 10 - it’s well known that the ego that is Broad has huge objection to being last man but these days he makes Glenn Mcgath look like Virat Kholi - leech has some endurance in the same way that archer can thump the odd ball.

Root is a lucky man and there are some big choices ahead. He’s going to have to open and Denly at 3 with Roy down at probably 4 or even 5

If Anderson is fit I don’t know if he risks a very long tail but woakes looks a weak link and suddenly his batting is gone. I assumed Curran is injured if not he could come in at 8.
 

tisza

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still jumping round the replays and commentaries.
Still talking about Botham & Willis nearly 40 years on - got to feel this Stokes innings will be the same.
 

SIR ERNIE

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Grendel

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Let's be honest not even Stokes actually thought we'd make it from Broad's dismissal. Of course you did though...

If we had fell by 8 runs the archer over against Lyon would have been pivotal in winning the game
 

Otis

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To be honest if the captain even mentioned it I’m sure he’d remind him if he hadn’t sanctioned a ridiculous review in the previous over it would not have mattered
I couldn't understand that at all, to use that last review for such an obvious not out decision.
 

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Likewise Root should have have had Leech out at the crease at 10 - it’s well known that the ego that is Broad has huge objection to being last man but these days he makes Glenn Mcgath look like Virat Kholi - leech has some endurance in the same way that archer can thump the odd ball.

Root is a lucky man and there are some big choices ahead. He’s going to have to open and Denly at 3 with Roy down at probably 4 or even 5

If Anderson is fit I don’t know if he risks a very long tail but woakes looks a weak link and suddenly his batting is gone. I assumed Curran is injured if not he could come in at 8.


It was the sort of review only Broad would have requested
 

Gazolba

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I couldn't understand that at all, to use that last review for such an obvious not out decision.
Because they never imagined there would be any need for another review.
 

Grendel

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Because they never imagined there would be any need for another review.

Well no you as captain have a very different mindset - it was almost like waving a “we are dead” card. Ponying was spitting feathers
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Amazing game of cricket. From adject to sublime. One of the best innings ever seen. Even the drama that we should've lost by a run by umpire got it wrong. Aus took some wonderful catches and then let it slip with fielding errors. Had absolutely everything.

Grendel - today was a day for Stokes to try one-day (it was almost T20 at times) tactics once we were down to the tailenders as they were going to get out eventually facing too many balls, so he had to maintain the strike. But the fact he spent so long yesterday playing himself in (and at times maybe being too cautious) gave him the groundwork to do it. Well done to the big man - SPOTY almost nailed on now I think.
 

Grendel

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Amazing game of cricket. From adject to sublime. One of the best innings ever seen. Even the drama that we should've lost by a run by umpire got it wrong. Aus took some wonderful catches and then let it slip with fielding errors. Had absolutely everything.

Grendel - today was a day for Stokes to try one-day (it was almost T20 at times) tactics once we were down to the tailenders as they were going to get out eventually facing too many balls, so he had to maintain the strike. But the fact he spent so long yesterday playing himself in (and at times maybe being too cautious) gave him the groundwork to do it. Well done to the big man - SPOTY almost nailed on now I think.

Do you think root needs to drop to number 4 and would you sanction Bairstow for 1 - 10 over spell of accelerating the run rate to 7 an over?
 

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Do you think root needs to drop to number 4 and would you sanction Bairstow for 1 - 10 over spell of accelerating the run rate to 7 an over?


Root should not have the burden of captaincy and go to number four if they can find a number three (not sure where though) everybody that makes county runs does so at 4-6 it seems. They obviously like Pope as he has only played one game and was called up but again is another number 6
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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If we had fell by 8 runs the archer over against Lyon would have been pivotal in winning the game

We can go with the what ifs all week. What if we hadn't rolled over in the first innings? What if Steve Smith had been fit? What if Stokes hadn't been dropped twice? What if the umpire had given Stokes plumb LBW?
 

Grendel

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We can go with the what ifs all week. What if we hadn't rolled over in the first innings? What if Steve Smith had been fit? What if Stokes hadn't been dropped twice? What if the umpire had given Stokes plumb LBW?

Exactly
 

Ian1779

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Bayliss even said when interviewed that he thought Roy should play in the middle order. Not sure why they persist. Would Bairstow opening really be any worse?
 

CCFCSteve

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We can go with the what ifs all week. What if we hadn't rolled over in the first innings? What if Steve Smith had been fit? What if Stokes hadn't been dropped twice? What if the umpire had given Stokes plumb LBW?

What if Labuschagne hadn’t had about ten lives on Friday night and Saturday morning (from memory dropped at least four times and stokes also would’ve had him out but it was a no ball)

One of those and/or one decent partnership in the first innings would’ve seen us over the line a lot easier.

The joys of test cricket !
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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What if Labuschagne hadn’t had about ten lives on Friday night and Saturday morning (from memory dropped at least four times and stokes also would’ve had him out but it was a no ball)

One of those and/or one decent partnership in the first innings would’ve seen us over the line a lot easier.

The joys of test cricket !

Yup, but there's one thing we can be sure of and that's nobody seriously gave England a chance after Broad went, if not earlier.
 

Otis

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My hope went after Woakes. Broad and Archer were never going to be the types to just stick around. Leach played it just right. Perfectly.
 

Mcbean

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What a session - was in the Gatehouse tavern for the last hour - big tv switched from Man City to Stokes - every run cheered - was a bit dodgy with the review and the catch chance but those sixes were epic - knighthood coming up if they can pull this one off (ashes) and World Cup - sports personality for Stokes - full redemption - still buzzing
 
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ovduk78

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I listened to it on TMS whilst getting dinner ready and they still needed about 40 when I had finished but I couldn't sit down and just paced round the kitchen cheering every run. Glenn McGrath was a bit angry at the lbw not given but both he and Jim Maxwell were more angry over the wasted review, it has been a real bug bear for Maxwell how teams use the reviews, especially when batsmen know they are out, and maybe this will put an end to it.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Truly unbelievable. Stokes will get all the credit fairly this time.

Botham getting all the credit for 81 was unfair. Dilley and Willis both played a huge part
 

Paul Anthony

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Yup, but there's one thing we can be sure of and that's nobody seriously gave England a chance after Broad went, if not earlier.

I didn't give us a chance after our first innings! Who did!?

I avoided really desperately getting my hopes up, and when we started losing wickets after lunch with some really careless shots, I was glad hadn't!

Have to credit Jack Leach as well. He played very sensibly, I hope a few others above him in the order took note.
 

tisza

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He played very sensibly, I hope a few others above him in the order took note.
They all need a look. Stokes was about 2 runs from 50 balls. Test cricket still about building an innings.
This is a good enough Aussie pace attack that if you leave the door open they are going to get you out.
their batting has been suspect (particularly when Smith was suspended) but it's still as good a pace attack as there is in Test cricket atm.
 

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