skybluetony176
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Was the garden party at No 10 the other night secretly the Catalina Wine Mixer?
The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (54 Viewers)
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Sick Boy
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And you're clearly a fan of Johnson.
Grendel
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I’m not a fan of Ken Clarke
Sick Boy
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Well, you're clearly a fan of Johnson, so I'm not sure you're in a position to criticise KC.
Brighton Sky Blue
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One tries to flog pork pies the other seems like he's eaten way too many. On paper they should get on
Grendel
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No one has for years received a six figure sum for promoting the tobacco industry and also the Eu purely for self interest
It’s funny as if Johnson was pro Eu and Clarke anti it’s johnson you and Sb would be dribbling over even if he’d supported and be paid by the tobacco industry for decades
Sick Boy
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And you'd be slobbering over Clarke if he was pro Brexit.
Apart from neither Brighton or I would actually ever vote Tory, as both Clarke and Johnson's behaviour sum up the Tories. Oh, who here actually votes for them?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Johnson wrote essays for and against EU membership-his position now is just the result of political calculation he doesn't have sincere beliefs either way. Don't know if you'd sussed it but I don't want the Tories in office never mind have to choose between them
SkyBlueDom26
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Jeremy Corbyn is a twat, labour are finished the longer he stays in charge
Brighton Sky Blue
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Imagine if Corbyn had offered pork pies to Venezuela to get a trade deal...
SkyBlueDom26
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Imagine Jeremy Corbyn running scared from a general election hahahahaha knows he’d stand no chance
Brighton Sky Blue
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Why would you agree to an election that is about nothing but Brexit and where one side has a pact with Farage and the other has its vote split with the Libs?
What are your favourite Tory policies?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Speaking of honesty how is Tubby's record in the truth telling department?
Boris Johnson's most infamous lies and untruths
The made-up quote
Boris Johnson was sacked from his job at The Times newspaper over allegations he fabricated a quote from his godfather, the historian Colin Lucas, for a front-page article about the discovery of Edward II’s Rose Palace.
Fake news from Brussels
After leaving the Times, Mr Johnson moved to The Daily Telegraph, working as the publication's Brussels correspondent between 1989 and 1994.
His articles, like those in several other Eurosceptic newspapers, contained many of the claims widely described as “Euromyths”, including plans to introduce same-size “eurocoffins”, establish a “banana police force” to regulate the shape of the curved yellow fruit, and ban prawn cocktail crisps.
Misrepresenting the people of Liverpool
Mr Johnson became editor of the Spectator in 1999 after telling owner Conrad Black, who was later convicted of fraud, that he would not pursue a political career. This promise was broken in 2001 when he won election as Conservative MP for Henley in Oxfordshire.
Three years later he was forced to apologise for an article in the magazine which blamed drunken Liverpool fans for the 1989 Hillsborough disaster and suggested that the people of the city were wallowing in their victim status.
“Anyone, journalist or politician, should say sorry to the people of Liverpool – as I do – for misrepresenting what happened at Hillsborough,” he said.
The extramarital affair
Michael Howard gave Boris Johnson two new jobs after becoming leader of the Conservatives in 2003 – party vice-chairman and shadow arts minister.
He was sacked from both positions in November 2004 after assuring Mr Howard that tabloid reports of his affair with Spectator columnist Petronella Wyatt were false and an “inverted pyramid of piffle”. When the story was found to be true, he refused to resign.
Broken promises
Mr Johnson's fondness for fallacy continued as London Mayor. Having promised in his 2008 manifesto to ensure there would be manned ticket offices at every train station, he agreed to widespread closures to pay for a 24-hour tube.
He promised to eradicate rough sleeping by 2012, only for it to double during his leadership. He was also accused of telling “barefaced lies” after he stated that police numbers would increase in London despite government cuts.
The lies on the bus go...
Launching the Vote Leave bus tour, Mr Johnson returned to the scene of his earlier falsehoods by repeating his old allegations that the EU was setting rules on the shape of bananas.
He also backed the infamous claim on the side of the bus that the UK was sending £350m a week to the EU, followed by “let’s fund our NHS instead”.
The UK Statistics Authority issued an official statement in May 2016 describing the claim as “misleading”, but Mr Johnson repeated it in an article in the Telegraph in September 2017.
‘I didn’t say anything about Turkey’
In January Boris Johnson claimed he did not mention Turkey during the referendum after it was suggested he falsely claimed 80 million Turks would come to Britain unless the UK left the EU.
In fact, he co-signed a letter stating that “the only way to avoid having common borders with Turkey is to vote Leave and take back control”. The Vote Leave campaign also produced a poster reading: “Turkey (population 76 million) is joining the EU”, adding “David Cameron wants Turkey to join the EU. How will our NHS cope?”.
Evo1883
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60% of Labour constituencies voted leave, its clear as day that a general election won't play out too well for Labour right now, not everybody will be so forgiving.
Corbyn knows this, he isn't stupid so he will help twist the knife further into his parties constituents and see the bill passed as law before finally being kicked into touch, something that should have happened a few years back for Labour to ever win an election.
I did laugh at jess Phillips MP of Yardley, a place that voted almost 61% in favour of brexit calling boris a coward though, very funny indeed
Corbyn knows this, he isn't stupid so he will help twist the knife further into his parties constituents and see the bill passed as law before finally being kicked into touch, something that should have happened a few years back for Labour to ever win an election.
I did laugh at jess Phillips MP of Yardley, a place that voted almost 61% in favour of brexit calling boris a coward though, very funny indeed
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Brighton Sky Blue
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If Brexit is prevented it will be for the benefit of those who voted against their own self interest because Farage and Tubby told them to
Evo1883
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Ofcourse... Says the remain voter
You know you can't champion democracy then hide behind it whilst sticking your fingers up to your voters because it's what YOU want... They will pay their price soon enough
Like I said, corbyn knows this
Brighton Sky Blue
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We can add his insane pork pie pitch to the list after it was debunked by multiple people in the industry
Brighton Sky Blue
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Not when the government’s internal planning shows it will be a shitstorm. Or that the likes of JRM have given up claiming that there will be a Brexit dividend for the foreseeable.
Still keep believing that foreigners are the problem
Evo1883
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The last line sums you lot up, absolutely rotten to the core.
Once again... Corbyn will pay the price at a general election. I have absolutely no doubt
Brighton Sky Blue
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I am a Labour voter and I don’t want an election dominated by a single issue when it should be about domestic policy. Put it to a referendum then let each party outline their ideas afterward
Brighton Sky Blue
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And ignoring the first part sums you up as an individual. Though I’ll ask you the same
What’s your favourite Tory policy?
Evo1883
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LOL
People aren't just going to forget this on the promise of free university fees and nationalised rail...
He's fucked
Sick Boy
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Yeah just like last time
Brighton Sky Blue
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Forget what exactly, obstructing something that will do harm to the country? Again
Your favourite Tory policy-go
Sick Boy
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Yet you’re quite comfortable with Johnson’s lies.
Evo1883
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It is completely different this time.. You and me both know it, he's fucked over Alot of Labour voters this time, tories generally won't go against their own, and a little hand shake with farage will see to it that they are finished
If only lies mattered now. You get the headline and the soundbite and your work is done
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Saddlebrains
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I used to research a lot regarding brexit and be quite 'into it' for want of a better phrase. But jesus christ its well boring now. Sick to death of hearing about it
We're fucked either way its just a pissing contest now. Whatever will be will be.
Everyone have a cup of tea and listen to Enya ffs
We're fucked either way its just a pissing contest now. Whatever will be will be.
Everyone have a cup of tea and listen to Enya ffs
Sick Boy
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We’ve already seen splits emerging in the Tories over the last 24 hours?!!
A handshake with Farage = no deal.
Last time May attempted to get a mandate for her vision of Brexit, which was not as hardline as Johnson’s and look what happened to her.
It’s wrong to think that there’s an overwhelming majority behind what Johnson and Farage want
Brighton Sky Blue
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Just be honest he can’t do any right because he leads the only party with a split voter base. What I don’t get is why you’re so keen to get fucked over by a man who looks like a pork pie as well as telling them
Brighton Sky Blue
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It’s obvious Boris spent yesterday thinking of one liners against Corbyn rather than how to fix this shitstorm
Brighton Sky Blue
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Who do you vote for?