General Election 2019 thread (39 Viewers)

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Pathetic - what would you have Fred the store man running JLR you clown

Complete nonsense - at what point did I say those that weren't intelligent should run things?

What the comment related to was Maggie - who clearly felt anyone in a menial/physical job could just be cast aside without any form of consideration or consultation as and when desired. Her mindset was similar to those landed gentry of the 17th/18th century who'd just knock down entire villages because it spoilt the vista from their living room - they didn't matter.

 

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[Grendel]

Complete nonsense - at what point did I say those that weren't intelligent should run things?

What the comment related to was Maggie - who clearly felt anyone in a menial/physical job could just be cast aside without any form of consideration or consultation as and when desired. Her mindset was similar to those landed gentry of the 17th/18th century who'd just knock down entire villages because it spoilt the vista from their living room - they didn't matter.

No she was in a situation where for the only time until now there was a genuine Marxist threat - we would not have the prosperous society we have now if she had not destroyed an ideology aimed at the destruction of capitalism

 

[Deleted member 5849]

No she was in a situation where for the only time until now there was a genuine Marxist threat

You'd have got on well with McCarthy

 

[skybluetony176]

the prosperous society we have now

Austerity, freeze in wages. Prosperous?

 

[Grendel]

You'd have got on well with McCarthy

Michael Foot was paid by the KGB and that lovely man who lived a life of wealth and prosperity - Mr Scargill - was a member of the communist party. Oddly as miners got thinner Mr Scargill lived a rather opulent lifestyle

The modern day Mr Scargill - the delightful Mr Mcclusky earns how much? £400,000 a year? A true man of the people indeed.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Michael Foot was paid by the KGB and that lovely man who lived a life of wealth and prosperity - Mr Scargill - was a member of the communist party. Oddly as miners got thinner Mr Scargill lived a rather opulent lifestyle

The modern day Mr Scargill - the delightful Mr Mcclusky earns how much? £400,000 a year? A true man of the people indeed.

You'd be all for people earning cash for doing a good job, surely?

It appears that your argument is that since we joined the EU, we've never had it so good...

Oh and the Foot claim is just a claim. Indeed, when made during his lifetime, he was able to successfully sue for libel. Good job you can't libel the dead, eh...

 

[Grendel]

You'd be all for people earning cash for doing a good job, surely?

It appears that your argument is that since we joined the EU, we've never had it so good...

We certainly didn’t have it good at all in the 70’s and without Thatcher the 80’s would have been a very sorrowful decade

Scargill did a great job for himself

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Scargill did a great job for himself

Two power hungry egotists combined to devastating effect.

Shame one of them was the Prime Minister.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

No she was in a situation where for the only time until now there was a genuine Marxist threat - we would not have the prosperous society we have now if she had not destroyed an ideology aimed at the destruction of capitalism

So much prosperity food bank use is at an all time high and most young people have to live at home with their parents.

We certainly didn’t have it good at all in the 70’s and without Thatcher the 80’s would have been a very sorrowful decade

Scargill did a great job for himself

Oh I forgot the 80's was such a fantastic time to be alive. What with the poll tax riots, general political unrest and protests, recession, huge unemployment and people on welfare, social problems, esp in the north and poorer areas of the south, entire livelihoods and communities ripped apart through economic ideology without any thought whatsoever as to replacement industry.

Yep, what a time to be British!

However I will agree with you on the likes of Scargill and modern equivalents like McCluskey - just as slef serving as the likes of JRM but at least they have the decency to not hide that they're in it for themselves

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

We certainly didn’t have it good at all in the 70’s and without Thatcher the 80’s would have been a very sorrowful decade

Scargill did a great job for himself

What a time to be alive

 

[westcountry_skyblue]

What a time to be alive

I left school in 84 been out of work for 6 months ever since,There’s work out there if you want to get off your star even in high unemployment times.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I left school in 84 been out of work for 6 months ever since,There’s work out there if you want to get off your star even in high unemployment times.

It's just I keep hearing how awful Labour are for the economy then I see that unemployment went to double figures multiple times under the Tories. It's almost like they took a knife to industry with no replacement lined up.

 

[Grendel]

It's just I keep hearing how awful Labour are for the economy then I see that unemployment went to double figures multiple times under the Tories. It's almost like they took a knife to industry with no replacement lined up.

In the 80’s you actually could sign on as a student in the term gains so I assume I was in those unemployed stats. The fact is I never was unemployed, I was in degree course that had 20 plus hours a week of lectures, I bought my first house in 1990 which ate up 50% of my income

The early years of thatcher and unemployment was a direct outcome of the utter screw up of the labour government. You also need to really make your mind up on what labour stands for. Every conservative government after the 70’s shambles has spent more on every element of the Welfare state. The Blair government is the exception so you either are are socialist or a Blairite

 

[skybluetony176]

What a time to be alive

I remember the news (don’t recall which channel) used to do a jobs count once a week of jobs lost vs new jobs in industry. It was never good news.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

In the 80’s you actually could sign on as a student in the term gains so I assume I was in those unemployed stats. The fact is I never was unemployed, I was in degree course that had 20 plus hours a week of lectures, I bought my first house in 1990 which ate up 50% of my income

The early years of thatcher and unemployment was a direct outcome of the utter screw up of the labour government. You also need to really make your mind up on what labour stands for. Every conservative government after the 70’s shambles has spent more on every element of the Welfare state. The Blair government is the exception so you either are are socialist or a Blairite

What was the second unemployment surge under John Major caused by? My degree course consisted of 20 hours of lectures and 16 hours of lab time a week. In my final year it switched to 9-5 in the lab to complete my research. The difference is you went for nothing and I incurred student debt of nearly £40k.

 

[skybluetony176]

So Boris delivers two already identified lies in his opening statement.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I remember the news (don’t recall which channel) used to do a jobs count once a week of jobs lost vs new jobs in industry. It was never good news.

G says it was Labour's fault though

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So Boris delivers two already identified lies in his opening statement.

And doesn't shut his gob when asked

 

[chiefdave]

How on earth does twitter let the Conservatives get away with calling their verified press account Factcheck UK?

 

[chiefdave]

Was expecting much better than this from Johnson. Coming across like he hasn't been briefed on the basics. Can't imagine that is the case so has he just ignored everything he's been told preferring to try and wing it on the night?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Was expecting much better than this from Johnson. Coming across like he hasn't been briefed on the basics. Can't imagine that is the case so has he just ignored everything he's been told preferring to try and wing it on the night?

Really surprised he hasn't resorted to the wisecracks just yet

 

[skybluetony176]

Oh dear. We’ve moved on to personal integrity. Poor Boris.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Debate is a shambles when you have clapping seals lapping up anything from either side. What's the point.

 

[chiefdave]

Why is Johnson being allowed to repeat known lies, like the 40 new hospitals BS, without being pulled up on it by the presenter?

 

[chiefdave]

Debate is a shambles when you have clapping seals lapping up anything from either side. What's the point.

Don't see the point of it when you can have someone stand up there lying. There should be a team of people behind the scenes fact checking everything and feeding it back to the presenter to challenge them.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Don't see the point of it when you can have someone stand up there lying. There should be a team of people behind the scenes fact checking everything and feeding it back to the presenter to challenge them.

The presenter should have done her homework in any case.

 

[clint van damme]

I remember the news (don’t recall which channel) used to do a jobs count once a week of jobs lost vs new jobs in industry. It was never good news.

Was news at 10 on ITV. Was pretty depressing

 

[skybluetony176]

It was a question about personal integrity Mr Johnson. But Jeremy Corbyn Grrrrr.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Corbyn talking about the 4 day week gets laughed at. 'Hahaha! I want to work myself into the ground! Trot!'

 

[clint van damme]

Corbyn talking about the 4 day week gets laughed at. 'Hahaha! I want to work myself into the ground! Trot!'

Some Microsoft facilities have introduced it and seen big spikes in productivity.

 

[skybluetony176]

Was news at 10 on ITV. Was pretty depressing

The fact that a national news program had this in the 80’s speaks volumes about what a party the 80’s wasn’t.

 

[skybluetony176]

Boris’ answer to every question seems to be Brexit.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Some Microsoft facilities have introduced it and seen big spikes in productivity.

So, I believe, has essentially anywhere else that's trialled it.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Boris’ answer to every question seems to be Brexit.

Or rehashing David Cameron's talking points from 2015.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

A lot of steaming gammon in the audience to heckle Corbyn each time he speaks