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torchomatic

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A good piece by Chris Dunlavy, it's not online so I've had to type it out, any spelling errors are mine!


IT'S BLUE SKY THINKING NOW AS CITY SINK: RELEGATION MAY BE THEIR SALVATION

It may not feel like it to their downtrodden fans, but relegation is the best thing that could have happened to Coventry City.

Only by going down to the third tier for the first time in 48 years can this once proud club escape the financial and competitive paralysis that has numbed an entire generation of supporters and brought the club to the brink of oblivion.

Patently, the club could not support CHampionship football. Their debts, of around £60M, are the kind that can only be staved off; not repaid.

Ownership of the 32500 seat Ricoh Arena is shared between Coventry City Council and the Alan Higgs Charity, a local trust. Coventry pay £1.2M rent make nothing from sponsorship or corporate events.

Their only sources of income are gate receipts and player sales, though the latter is a well that has long since run dry.

Club owners SISU, a hedge fund, have also backed themselves into a corner, they are both unwilling to pump any more money into the club and unwilling to sell it because nobody will pay enough to offset their losses. Given that they have no real stadium or any players of real value, that is no surprise.

In other words, Coventy City are broke. For the past few years, they have paid players more than they could afford, worsening debts. Even then, they could not hope to compete with Championship clubs of even modest resources. And t his year, SISU finally gave up.

"We've had to rebuild with youth players, not even players from League Two or the Conference," said manager Andy Thorn this week, and he isn't lying.

In January, Coventry were one of only two Championship clubs who couldn't afford to bid for Fleetwood Town's £1M rated striker Jamie Vardy. The other were Doncaster, another side for whom the Championship has proved beyond a financial step too far.

This is no kind of existence. Every season Coventry tried to stay afloat, their debts got worse. And for what? Another season battling relegation? Another 17th place finish and the campaign over by March? Another year of dwindling gates?

They had become the Nick Leeson of the Championship, desperately trying to cover their losses only to make things even worse.

Now though, they can drop the act. Now, they can stop trying to mix it with the big boys and punch their own weight. It may be humiliating at first, but it is the only way they can recover - just ask Norwich.

When the Canaries went down to League One in 2009, they had debts of £23M and - though they owned their own ground - were losing money every year.

So they started again, shedding 11 players and signing 12 , all lower league types on lower league wages. They forged a spirit, started winning and now, with many of the same players Norwich are in teh Premier League and debt free.

It may take longer and it may be more painful. But for Coventry, the comeback starts here.
 

torchomatic

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No worries, Gaz. I've just sent you a PM.
 

Macca

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Good article. The sooner people stop talking about us as a big club or a sleeping giant the better.

Time to start again. Get some big old cloggers. Get rid of the kids that thorn has struggled with and play nasty
 

Gaz

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Just checked it Torch thanks.

So it looks like we will have to pick up some lower league players to put a good team together next season, just as Norwich and the Saints did.
Can anyone think of any ?
 

Delboycov

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Excellent article Torch...it speaks a lot of sense-appreciate you going to the trouble of typing it out.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Just checked it Torch thanks.

So it looks like we will have to pick up some lower league players to put a good team together next season, just as Norwich and the Saints did.
Can anyone think of any ?

My knowledge of players at that level is pretty limited-that we will likely have no money for transfer fees really restricts who we could realistically look at in any case.
 

Gaz

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Players like ALF and Marc Tierney are out there and then obviously Fox and Dann, we just need to find them.

Not massive transfer fees but still money that we prob don't have though.

One thing in our favour I feel though is that players might look at us as one of the big teams and want to come.
 

torchomatic

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I think the important thing is getting the spirit back. Both as a Club and as fans. Easier said than done, I know.
 

Sutty

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Just checked it Torch thanks.

So it looks like we will have to pick up some lower league players to put a good team together next season, just as Norwich and the Saints did.
Can anyone think of any ?

Would love us to get Ryan Hall from Southend but he'll be out of our price range I'm guessing.
 

Gaz

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Maybe we could pick up someone like Lee Barnard from Southampton on the cheap now there have gone up.

Agree about the team spirit thing too.
 

Bill Glazier

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Interesting piece but the central problem of the club not owning the ground doesn't go away. That's the difference between us and Norwich and until the club and the ground are one I can't see much of a future. Excuse my ignorance, but why won't the Council sell to Sisu? Is it because they're a bunch of shysters (which they are) or will they never sell their share to anyone? I genuinely don't know.
 

WillieStanley

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Interesting piece but the central problem of the club not owning the ground doesn't go away. That's the difference between us and Norwich and until the club and the ground are one I can't see much of a future. Excuse my ignorance, but why won't the Council sell to Sisu? Is it because they're a bunch of shysters (which they are) or will they never sell their share to anyone? I genuinely don't know.

The difference with Norwich and Coventry is that they've managed to retain a large fan base.

The council have said they will not sell until they are assured it's going into the right hands. Seeings as SISU won't show them said hands, how can they assess as to whether they are right or not. IE they won't sell until they know who they are selling to. Quite rightly too. They have an interest in The Ricoh whether they own a share or not. It impacts the whole City.
 

Otis

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Excellent article ....... except for, how is this going to be 'the best thing to happen to us' I am asking myself?

The rent is still going to be 1.2m per year, we still won't 't own the stadium. Just don't see how this is the start of anything. We are still heading for the end. If Sisu continue on the same path next season (bearing in mind we've hardly got any family silver to sell) and it is down to youth players as it was this season, then next can only provide much of the same as this and we will be very, very lucky to survive League One.

Maybe then, League 2 will be the best thing for us and a new start.

Any new start can only happen once Sisu have been kicked out of the door.
 

canleykid

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Why do some people think that sisu even have the money to buy the stadium?
Well said they can't pay the rent but can find the money to buy the arena hmmmm another bit of sisu bullshit I think,council should say when your rent account is paid for six months with no late payments we can open negotiations,then it puts It back to sisu
 

Skyblueweeman

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Just checked it Torch thanks.

So it looks like we will have to pick up some lower league players to put a good team together next season, just as Norwich and the Saints did.
Can anyone think of any ?

Saints got bought by a Billionaire though and brought in players like Dean Hammond and Rickie Lambert and managed to hold on to key players such as Kelvin Davis. We need a billionaire like Markus Liebherr to help us out!
 

thorninmyside

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I see this as the only positive. . Watching the club rebuild from scratch and an influx of good players from the lower leagues. Could be fun
 

Otis

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And where's the money coming from to buy these players from the lower leagues? :thinking about:
 

Otis

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Ahh, those good old magic beans!!


This is what i don't get. People talk of us bringing players in and yet our financial position is much worse and it is estimated that dropping to League One costs somewhere in the region of 4M.

So where are these players coming from? I guess we will be bringing them in just like we did last season! :facepalm:
 
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kg82

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Ahh, those good old magic beans!!


This is what i don't get. People talk of us bringing players in and yet our financial position is much worse and it is estimated that dropping to League One costs somewhere in the region of 4M.

So where are these players coming from. Bringing them in just like we did last season I take it? :facepalm:

Yeah, the only "new signings" we'll be getting will be from the under-16s probably! 2 of them will be keepers!
 

Disorganised1

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Don't really agrree with the article - sweeps under the carpet years of mis-management and abuses the intelligence of fans who were onboard for the original climb.

Younger fans don't remember when we were a force in division 2 and the biggest club in division 3 with a huge away following and the largest gates in the league.

I'd suggest that was written by a guy under 30.
 

Stevec189

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Don't really agrree with the article - sweeps under the carpet years of mis-management and abuses the intelligence of fans who were onboard for the original climb.

Younger fans don't remember when we were a force in division 2 and the biggest club in division 3 with a huge away following and the largest gates in the league.

I'd suggest that was written by a guy under 30.

About spot on I think. It is not disrespectful to the past when revenues were higher (relatively) and overheads were lower and they owned the stadium! With gates what they are and have been it is about right unless you have the handy Billionaire in your phone book.

PS I am a guy of nearly 50 and remember the Sky Blue Special, video nights at Highfield road and a force to be reckoned with. But then we were owned by a Millionaire with vision!
 
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Otis

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About spot on I think. It is not disrespectful to the past when revenues were higher (relatively) and overheads were lower and they owned the stadium! With gates what they are and have been it is about right unless you have the handy Billionaire in your phone book.

PS I am a guy of nearly 50 and remember the Sky Blue Special, video nights at Highfield road and a force to be reckoned with. But then we were owned by a Millionaire with vision!

Now we're owned by a Ebeneezer Scrooge who should have gone to Specsavers.
 

Bill Glazier

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The difference with Norwich and Coventry is that they've managed to retain a large fan base.

The council have said they will not sell until they are assured it's going into the right hands. Seeings as SISU won't show them said hands, how can they assess as to whether they are right or not. IE they won't sell until they know who they are selling to. Quite rightly too. They have an interest in The Ricoh whether they own a share or not. It impacts the whole City.

Thanks Willie - so the club needs to find well meaning benefactor. Just a wild thought that will no doubt be instantly shot down, but why don't the Council buy the club? As the club is so vital to the local economy it could easily be justified. I don't even know if it would be legal but foreign precedents exist - aren't Barca and Bayern Munich owned by their local councils? A successful club could even turn a profit one day.
 

Astute

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So how many people would be happy to pay more council tax to fund a football club when council workers are losing their jobs through lack of finance?
 

The Reverend Skyblue

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Now the huge disappointment of this season has finished, i'm quite looking forward to next season. I believe there is someone or some group who will save us and shed the club of all the crap we have.

I've said it before i'm sick of being negative, it afeects my mood and i can be a right miserable sod to live with, all because of Cov.

So meet the new me, I'm positive we will have a club to be proud of next season.

I'm positive we will have investment from somewhere, in the team, the youngsters, the club, and they will negotiate with the council and Higgs to get the Ricoh back.

I'm positive this time next season we will be a totally different club to the shambles we see today, and once again we can wear the mighty skyblue with our chests pumped full of pride

Yes , join me and be a new you, we can do it

The Rev

The Rev
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Thanks Willie - so the club needs to find well meaning benefactor. Just a wild thought that will no doubt be instantly shot down, but why don't the Council buy the club? As the club is so vital to the local economy it could easily be justified. I don't even know if it would be legal but foreign precedents exist - aren't Barca and Bayern Munich owned by their local councils? A successful club could even turn a profit one day.

Because they couldn't afford it and run at a whopping deficit themselves?
 

Astute

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Join the clan rev :)

My glass will remain half full until SISU empty it again
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Now the huge disappointment of this season has finished, i'm quite looking forward to next season. I believe there is someone or some group who will save us and shed the club of all the crap we have.

I've said it before i'm sick of being negative, it afeects my mood and i can be a right miserable sod to live with, all because of Cov.

So meet the new me, I'm positive we will have a club to be proud of next season.

I'm positive we will have investment from somewhere, in the team, the youngsters, the club, and they will negotiate with the council and Higgs to get the Ricoh back.

I'm positive this time next season we will be a totally different club to the shambles we see today, and once again we can wear the mighty skyblue with our chests pumped full of pride

Yes , join me and be a new you, we can do it

The Rev

The Rev

Some more of what you're having please Rev! :)
 

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