General Election 2019 thread (10 Viewers)

[SkyBlueDom26]

Are you married Dim?

Well being 21 i don't think I've found my wife yet lad

 

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[SkyBlueDom26]

There we go...

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

According to Guido Fawkes, Labour had these documents 5 days ago, and didn't think they were worth making an issue of. The morning after Jezza's trainwreck interview, they changed their mind.

 

[clint van damme]

According to Guido Fawkes, Labour had these documents 5 days ago, and didn't think they were worth making an issue of. The morning after Jezza's trainwreck interview, they changed their mind.

stop now, please!!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It really was - it does not matter if even only one person in the country below £80,000 pays one extra penny in income tax the fact is the strap line is a lie

It was superb journalism and interviewing

I trust you will say the same if fatso is challenged on his long list of ill advised comments for 15 minutes? The first half was lazy attempts to secure some gotcha headlines.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well being 21 i don't think I've found my wife yet lad

Yup so this won’t affect you.

 

[clint van damme]

There we go...

Trump said on TV, in front of the British press, that the NHS would be part of a US/UK trade deal.
Are you calling him a liar?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Yup so this won’t affect you.

But will affect millions of others, its not that though its the fact that he lied saying 95% wouldn't see a tax increase from his manifesto

As soon as Boris lies you all jump on it

 

[Grendel]

I trust you will say the same if fatso is challenged on his long list of ill advised comments for 15 minutes? The first half was lazy attempts to secure some gotcha headlines.

He will be that’s the point and if Johnson responds and shows grace to apologise if his comments caused offence even though misunderstood that is acceptable

 

[Grendel]

Yup so this won’t affect you.

At least though he shows compassion for others and a desire to expose falsehood

Critically he shows insight at the dangers of socialism and doesn’t unlike you just think in young I has better be a socialist as it’s the trendy thing to do

 

[hill83]

I has better be a socialist as it’s the trendy thing to do

Never go full arsehole.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He will be that’s the point and if Johnson responds and shows grace to apologise if his comments caused offence even though misunderstood that is acceptable

Even now you can’t admit the truth about what he said. Just admit you’re on a team and only make excuses for one side.

 

[skybluetony176]

But will affect millions of others, its not that though its the fact that he lied saying 95% wouldn't see a tax increase from his manifesto

As soon as Boris lies you all jump on it

he actually said 80%.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

At least though he shows compassion for others and a desire to expose falsehood

Critically he shows insight at the dangers of socialism and doesn’t unlike you just think in young I has better be a socialist as it’s the trendy thing to do

He would do well to show insight at the dangers of trickle down economics and mass deregulation that have wrecked the world economy each time they have been implemented. Unlike in your embarrassing twitter tirades I believe in social democracy not to be down with the kids but because it works.

 

[hill83]

He would do well to show insight at the dangers of trickle down economics and mass deregulation that have wrecked the world economy each time they have been implemented. Unlike in your embarrassing twitter tirades I believe in social democracy not to be down with the kids but because it works.

It shows him for what he is though. Thinking young people are just following a trend. No respect whatsoever the prick.*

*I appreciate the irony in that but I've got no respect for that twat at all.

 

[shmmeee]

According to Guido Fawkes, Labour had these documents 5 days ago, and didn't think they were worth making an issue of. The morning after Jezza's trainwreck interview, they changed their mind.

Political party in timing announcements for maximum effect during an election campaign shocker!

 

[skybluetony176]

At least though he shows compassion for others and a desire to expose falsehood

Critically he shows insight at the dangers of socialism and doesn’t unlike you just think in young I has better be a socialist as it’s the trendy thing to do

What are the dangers of socialism?

 

[shmmeee]

But will affect millions of others, its not that though its the fact that he lied saying 95% wouldn't see a tax increase from his manifesto

As soon as Boris lies you all jump on it

He said won’t see an income tax rise. They won’t. They just won’t be able to share allowances. The rate remains the same.

 

[shmmeee]

What are the dangers of socialism?

We might become happy and productive and untalented privileged people might not get an easy ride thanks to circumstances of birth.

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

There we go...

Ha.... quoting Lynn Truss is the best you have. Same old Tory rhetoric banging on and on about anti-semetism in the LP. Why are the Tory's suddenly so kind and caring towards the Jewish community and not others minority groups or religions? Smacks of desperation.

 

[shmmeee]

He would do well to show insight at the dangers of trickle down economics and mass deregulation that have wrecked the world economy each time they have been implemented. Unlike in your embarrassing twitter tirades I believe in social democracy not to be down with the kids but because it works.

Also “down with the kids”:
- successful happy countries
- most economists
- the majority of educated people
- the entire U.K. political establishment pre-1979

 

[shmmeee]

Ha.... quoting Lynn Truss is the best you have. Same old Tory rhetoric banging on and on about anti-semetism in the LP. Why are the Tory's suddenly so kind and caring towards the Jewish community and not others minority groups or religions? Smacks of desperation.

Jewish people are the only minority that votes majority Tory I believe. Sikhs may be close as well I think.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Also “down with the kids”:
- successful happy countries
- most economists
- the majority of educated people
- the entire U.K. political establishment pre-1979

I would love to see what the likes of G would have said in 1945 with Attlee’s proposals. Can’t afford it, healthcare for wasters, enslaving doctors blah blah blah

 

[skybluetony176]

We might become happy and productive and untalented privileged people might not get an easy ride thanks to circumstances of birth.

 

[hill83]

Hate all this political posturing from both sides using 'minorities' to their advantage. None of them actually give a fuck.

 

[Johnnythespider]

Well being 21 i don't think I've found my wife yet lad

Is your dad on here by any chance ?

 

[Grendel]

He would do well to show insight at the dangers of trickle down economics and mass deregulation that have wrecked the world economy each time they have been implemented. Unlike in your embarrassing twitter tirades I believe in social democracy not to be down with the kids but because it works.

The world economy has shown growth off the scale over the last 40 years in all major industrialised societies that have adopted the capitalist model.

The Labour Party model is an antithesis if this. You can bluster and dance around slogans all you like but the model is regressive. It is a legitimate argument to state this is a throwback to a 1970’s world when the government in power was entirely reliant on union support and the reliance was generated purely by the power they could wield amongst the nationalised industries as a direct consequence of union collectivism.

If you seriously believe 2008 was a recession I suggest you try a labour model which has eye watering levels of inflation purely driven by union power and colossal wage demands

Ironically the capitalist model now will protect us from some of those extremities as globalisation does mean a much lower chance of spiralling inflation and the interest rate explosion. However, the reality is the spending plans are on a horrific scale - the share co-operative plans and nationalisation are clear direct throwbacks to this past

you need to make your mind up if the Blair years were real Labour Party years or not. If they are not then the investment by socialist administrations in all forms of public expenditure are lower than the subsequent Tory government. If they are then what you are supporting then is a social liberal government not a socialist one. A party ethos that is hugely different to what we see under Corbyn

Oddly you express little opinion on this.

It’s very obvious if you have not experienced an electric shock then you cannot really comment accurately what this is. You and everyone within your age group have never experienced the true gruesome impact of a socialist administration where actually the rich still are pretty rich and the poor get very poorer

be careful what you wish for

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Did you vote leave or remain?

People voting leave wanted to leave. People voting remain wanted to remain. It was never going to be how we left.

The EU has made it hard. Remainers have made it hard. Was any of this on the ballot paper?

The point I was making was that we keep being told "we know what we voted for" but how can that be possible if one of the things that was put forward as part of our withdrawal only came into existence after the vote? How can you know you're voting for something that doesn't exist? That'd be like me voting for the Laboural Demoscots - they don't exist but if I expect them to make a pact post election it's what we get.

I voted remain and yes, the EU has made it hard, as have a lot of remainers. But they aren't the only ones - a number of leavers, such as the ERG, have also made it hard.

 

[shmmeee]

Hate all this political posturing from both sides using 'minorities' to their advantage. None of them actually give a fuck.

Im not sure that’s fair with Labour as a whole. Generally they’ve been the natural home for anti-racist campaigners. There’s a definite blind spot around anti-semitism on the left though, mostly overreach from criticisms of Israel or conspiratorial stuff about rich people that’s barely washed Elders of Zion stuff rather than the blatant stuff of the right.

 

[skybluetony176]

I would love to see what the likes of G would have said in 1945 with Attlee’s proposals. Can’t afford it, healthcare for wasters, enslaving doctors blah blah blah

Grendull probably thinks Harold MacMillan is a Marxist for his house building program never mind Attlee.

 

[shmmeee]

I would love to see what the likes of G would have said in 1945 with Attlee’s proposals. Can’t afford it, healthcare for wasters, enslaving doctors blah blah blah

My Mum used to teach the history of welfare and yeah it’s basically been the same arguments for centuries.

 

[shmmeee]

Grendull probably thinks Harold MacMillan is a Marxist for his house building program never mind Attlee.

Grendel refuses to pay for the family Netflix plan because it’s too socialist

 

[Grendel]

Hate all this political posturing from both sides using 'minorities' to their advantage. None of them actually give a fuck.

I don’t think sides actually are really using minorities at all. Johnson is purely appointed because he has a track record in London of overhauling a massive majority from a hard left Major with a dodgy background

Corbyn is an old style rabble rouser with whether he likes it or not a past most leaders will never ever have

Thatcher whatever people think of her was the last in the era of real politics of this country against the adversary Kinnock. These were genuine conviction politicians who believed in what they said and what they wanted. Corbyn is equally as disingenuous as Johnson. He appeases to the centralists over Europe in a lust for power.

The truth really is it would be better if no one voted at all in the election and then we’d have to redesign political systems and remove successive zombie governments - it will never happen

for the record I’ve voted conservative twice in my entire life

 

[Grendel]

I would love to see what the likes of G would have said in 1945 with Attlee’s proposals. Can’t afford it, healthcare for wasters, enslaving doctors blah blah blah

he lost the next election

 

[chiefdave]

But will affect millions of others, its not that though its the fact that he lied saying 95% wouldn't see a tax increase from his manifesto

How have you arrived at millions? The total number of claimants for the marriage allowance is 1.78m. Not all of those will be worse off overall.