Otis
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Yet, Thorninmyside chooses to believe what she says and calls Hoffman all but a liar. :thinking about:
Ah the JOY of it.......Joy Seppalla talks (11 Viewers)
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Yet, Thorninmyside chooses to believe what she says and calls Hoffman all but a liar. :thinking about:
Nonleagueherewecome
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Same as last year, Rev. Usual thing.
Agreed also with OSB's point that this was clearly a written reply, not a face-to-face or telephone interview. 'Cos that way, there can't be follow up questions, and you only have to answer those questions you want to!
Nonleagueherewecome
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chiefdave
Well-Known Member
this was my first thought. it looks like somthing that was emailed in and I have my doubts it was even her that answered the questions.
Q1 shouldn't have been who is SISU it should have been who and the investors and owners of the club and are they aware of what is happening with their investment.
Q2 needs to be qualified, somelike like Everton published with a breakdown of where the money has gone.
what does this mean? the club have had to find finance because SISU wouldn't cover the costs or the club have done something without the knowledge of SISU?
Q3 she's not going to give us advance warning of putting the club into admin or liquidation so it's down to if you believe her or not.
Q4 she says we need a top management team but aren't these the people who recruited Orange Ken and Canadian Len and told us they were the greatest team ever assembled. what evidence do we have that they will do a better job now?
Q5 CET have messed up here. They asked her about investors but not about a possible takeover. The answer given could still be true if Hoff has put in numerous formal bids as at no point are they asked if anyone has put in a bid.
Q6/7/8 they clearly want to get their hands on the stadium. it would be useful if someone could find out what rents other teams play as frankly I don't trust SISU or the council to be telling us the truth. SISU seem to be indicating here that they are in talks to reduce the rent but both ACL and the council have said this isn't happening. if they want a share of the stadium them activate the clause to buy the Higgs half.
Q9 they keep saying they are in it for the long term but every year we have an emnargo due to the fact they won't confirm they will fund a further year!
At the end of the day they need to start taking action, we've been here before with statements and promises and nothings happened so why should anyone believe them this time?
Wrenstreetcarpark
New Member
Because this time they have said its true...
thorninmyside
New Member
I won'be losing much sleep over that brighton. Pathetic drivel in your eyes? Don't speak about your boyfreind like that
torchomatic
Well-Known Member
Mmm...I actually bought the CT today so I could read it, which I did at dinnertime.
I don't know what to think really. We wanted communication from SISU and they've responded with communication from the top dog, so that can only be a good thing. It's nice that they admit to making mistakes, that they confirm they've not made any money (which isn't surprising) and that they wish to knock the rent down a bit, which again isn't too surprising. Also, nottoo surprising is the lack of any bid from Hoffman, so I'm not sure what to believe with him, to be honest.
So, although it's good to get some answers, I still have to take it with a pinch of salt as they've hardly been upfront in the past.
Personally, I hope lessons have been learned and that SISU will now find a way to fund a promotion push. She rightly points out that SISUs reputation has been damaged beyond repair with some fans and so really she needs to put her words into action. I really don't care who owns Coventry City as long as they fund us, push us forward and give us a club to be proud of.
The Jury's still out.
I don't know what to think really. We wanted communication from SISU and they've responded with communication from the top dog, so that can only be a good thing. It's nice that they admit to making mistakes, that they confirm they've not made any money (which isn't surprising) and that they wish to knock the rent down a bit, which again isn't too surprising. Also, nottoo surprising is the lack of any bid from Hoffman, so I'm not sure what to believe with him, to be honest.
So, although it's good to get some answers, I still have to take it with a pinch of salt as they've hardly been upfront in the past.
Personally, I hope lessons have been learned and that SISU will now find a way to fund a promotion push. She rightly points out that SISUs reputation has been damaged beyond repair with some fans and so really she needs to put her words into action. I really don't care who owns Coventry City as long as they fund us, push us forward and give us a club to be proud of.
The Jury's still out.
Mumford and Daughter
New Member
why are people gettiin taken in by a interview which was not televised but just words
i remember iggy pop coming out saying the same rubbish in september
why wont fans realise this scum have wrecked our club
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Is this the pantomime season?
torchomatic
Well-Known Member
I'm not being "taken in". I'm saying I will judge her and SISU on their future actions. Doesn't mean others have to share my opinion.
The alternative is...oh, hold on there is no alternative. Getting your knickers in a twist isn't going to make any difference as it seems SISU are going nowhere and neither is Hoffman.
I'm not saying this is ideal, but we have a choice of one. SISU.
The alternative is...oh, hold on there is no alternative. Getting your knickers in a twist isn't going to make any difference as it seems SISU are going nowhere and neither is Hoffman.
I'm not saying this is ideal, but we have a choice of one. SISU.
Mumford and Daughter
New Member
so next season if its another disaster and same thing happens , will she be saying , we made mistakes blah blah and then we can say its alright we know they’ve made mistakes
in fact i remember sisu saying the same when brody and co were introduced to us over 15 months ago , id rather go into admin then be stuck with this vermin
torchomatic
Well-Known Member
You're right, of course. However this is the first time we've heard from HER. Again, you may be right, it maybe all bullshit. But, like I said WE HAVE NO CHOICE.
I don't ever want to go into admin as we would most likely never recover. Only a fool would wish for that, in my opinion.
I don't ever want to go into admin as we would most likely never recover. Only a fool would wish for that, in my opinion.
ccfcway
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Well, in the interest of honesty and in response
Joy,
I have also made mistakes which I will acknowledge. I gave you 2 years worth of season ticket money, which given the quality of the playing staff and league position, was, and continues to be clearly unsustainable.
There has been no formal bid for my seat, nor the 100 or so which are empty nearby, but I am not leaving anything unturned in my efforts to not bother getting someone to fill it.
It's clear to me that the council should be looking to reduce my council tax, as my bins are now disposing of league one programmes.
My board (surfboard) is the strongest it has been in years and I firmly believe that it with carry me onto success in the future.
I have saved this letter so I can change the date and resend it to you in 12 months, with a different name and date.
Ccfcway
Joy,
I have also made mistakes which I will acknowledge. I gave you 2 years worth of season ticket money, which given the quality of the playing staff and league position, was, and continues to be clearly unsustainable.
There has been no formal bid for my seat, nor the 100 or so which are empty nearby, but I am not leaving anything unturned in my efforts to not bother getting someone to fill it.
It's clear to me that the council should be looking to reduce my council tax, as my bins are now disposing of league one programmes.
My board (surfboard) is the strongest it has been in years and I firmly believe that it with carry me onto success in the future.
I have saved this letter so I can change the date and resend it to you in 12 months, with a different name and date.
Ccfcway
sky blue zam
Member
there has been no offer for the club.....this shows otherwise
http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/10886-Coventry-City-statement-on-Gary-Hoffman-takeover-offer]
http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/10886-Coventry-City-statement-on-Gary-Hoffman-takeover-offer]
Brighton Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Just wait till Raul hears about this...
If you read the full paragraph it says:
'However, we also have a responsibility to the fans, to the city, and to our own investors to ensure that any interest we receive is genuine, that the potential investors do have the necessary funds, and that any new ownership would in fact meet the short, medium, and long term needs of the club.
To date this criteria has not been met by anyone – in full or even in part.'
Sisu are entitled to set criteria for what they will consider a bid.
Brighton Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
You don't set criteria for what constitutes a bid-the dictionary does; as for an *acceptable* bid, which is what you meant, then fair enough 
Otis
Well-Known Member
Don't think they realistically have the necessary funds to meet the long term needs of a 7yr old girl's pocket money.
skyblue.boycie
New Member
Well put together but as someone has said she has had plenty of time to respond to the questions. It does stink of desperation though and i wonder how much Paul Barber was involved in the answers because as we all know SISU know F**K all about football. It really pissed me off when it was said that ''we are as upset and dismayed as ANY Covenrty fan with the situation we find ourselves in and with the clubs relegation to league one''. They dont have a f*****g clue how we feel and i notice ''situation'' was put ahead of ''relegation to league one'', so whats the ''situation'' refered to? probaly potless and clueless! Then came the sting in the tail, the fans having an ownership stake in the club. Very clever SISU! Lets allow the fans to have a stake in the club (at a cost £££) then when they are on board they will divert their animosity from us to the council and when they relent and sell half the ground we can get our grubby hands on what we want. After the amount of shit us fans have had to endure from these parasites we can never let this happen. At least until they prove thier desire to go straight back up and give us a good squad for next season.
Brighton Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
When asked about admin and liquidation for example, all the answer stated was the consequences of those things for the club-which even the likes of TIMS understand. It totally evaded the question of 'Will you put the club into either of those situations'-indeed, the nature of her answers was as evasive as she could probably get away with.
italiahorse
Well-Known Member
Have you read the article? Nobody said that !!!!
If CCFC are making a profit for SISU then we have a successful club.
Wrenstreetcarpark
New Member
So who is going to buy it? Sisu?
If they buy half of ACL they will spend money and get no return on it.
Please explain to me how CCFC/Sisu can get any money out of ACL if they became part owners?
If they buy half of ACL they will spend money and get no return on it.
Please explain to me how CCFC/Sisu can get any money out of ACL if they became part owners?
italiahorse
Well-Known Member
Lets hope so as nobody else can.
Next season is the chance to prove themselves. They have stated they were wrong, they don't want Administration so we start on a level playing field regards points, if we don't go into administration then SISU are supporting us financially. Lets forget the past and get on with it. There is no other choice so go and get your season ticket (on DD or credit card) and get behind the lads. I feel quite up beat that SISU are talking about the future. True fans like myself have bought our tickets already.
italiahorse
Well-Known Member
Revenues from, food/drink sales, advertising, sponsors, concerts, parking, olympics, ALL currently not available to us.
italiahorse
Well-Known Member
No help whatsoever ...................... Do you have a alternative plan?
Get a grip man
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
really getting tired of repeating this..........
What is on offer is the shares in ACL. That gets you 50% of ACL not the stadium. It does not entitle you to 50% of the income of the stadium. It entitles you to dividends which cant be paid because (a) it would be illegal as negative balance sheet and (b) the owners of ACL have agreed to pay off all borrowings of ACL before taking income.
Buying 50% of ACL gives you NO INCOME ....... NO Revenues from, food/drink sales, advertising, sponsors, concerts, parking, olympics,
What is on offer is the shares in ACL. That gets you 50% of ACL not the stadium. It does not entitle you to 50% of the income of the stadium. It entitles you to dividends which cant be paid because (a) it would be illegal as negative balance sheet and (b) the owners of ACL have agreed to pay off all borrowings of ACL before taking income.
Buying 50% of ACL gives you NO INCOME ....... NO Revenues from, food/drink sales, advertising, sponsors, concerts, parking, olympics,
Wrenstreetcarpark
New Member
OSB
No amount of repetition is going to get people to understand that there is no economic advantage to the Club to buy half of ACL while there is still a mortgage: all you do is buy the right to pay it off!
No amount of repetition is going to get people to understand that there is no economic advantage to the Club to buy half of ACL while there is still a mortgage: all you do is buy the right to pay it off!
Nonleagueherewecome
Well-Known Member
Well if your boyfriend is a world class forward like him, how come you haven't persuaded him to take a wage cut and play for us?
The catering is on a five year contract with compass,in regards to the stadium like any property you only make money when the mortgage is paid off and sisu can't pay the rent let alone a mortgage,the concerts are contractors and promotion organisations that rent the arena as we do off the council,we have nothing to market and other company's i doubt would use us as were not gonna get much publicity where we are at the moment,and the car parks belong to the council so all in all its 50% of not a lot of use
Brighton Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Tried stating this countless times-would save us on the rent though?
Brighton Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Well if your boyfriend is a world class forward like him, how come you haven't persuaded him to take a wage cut and play for us?
Brighton's so much better for his tan than Coventry