chiefdave
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Some good news
Soubry disbands Independent Group for Change party
Soubry disbands Independent Group for Change party
General Election 2019 thread (9 Viewers)
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chiefdave
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Interesting....
Was sure I'd heard something on the radio about this being the most diverse parliament we've had. Obviously not!
Grendel
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Apparently their are 20 LGBTQ Conservative MPs which is 25% more than labour
Embarrassing
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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How queer.
shmmeee
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Ah yes Mr Blackford, its all about respecting democracy isn't it!How ironic!
Willow da Peeple! Leave means leave! They know what they voted for!
Any head of a union who doesn’t let one of its countries leave when it wants is a dictator!
Love it when Brexiters argue against Scottish independence (or when Remainers argue for it)
Brighton Sky Blue
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Not when I’ve been calling for Corbyn to go for months.
Grendel
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Corbyn will be recommending him - he prevented another 20 seats for Johnson including two in Coventry
chiefdave
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Fair play to you Grendel. Corbyn losing in a landslide and announcing he's standing down has done nothing to dampen your complete obsession with him!
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All our politics differences aside may we all have a merry Skyblue Christmas PUSB to you all!!!
SkyblueBazza
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2nd from the right front row...is that Trump interfering again?
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shmmeee
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Same to you and yours buddy
chiefdave
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Still no sign of the Russia report but it has emerged that Johnson attended a "caviar-fuelled Christmas party" hosted by former KGB agent Alexander Lebedev the day after the election.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Says Jezza was also invited
chiefdave
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Well he would be as we all know he's a Russian spy.
Brighton Sky Blue
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I like that he had impersonators of both. Though with Boris it’d be hard to tell parody from reality
lifeskyblue
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Merry Christmas from Boris.
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clint van damme
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Maybe he's one of the 650,000 disabled people who've had their benefits cut. Though you probably couldn't give toss about them.
lifeskyblue
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Ian1779
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Or the family of one of the 1.3 million to have died as a result of austerity.
But anyway - fuck the dead.... Yay Brexit!!!
SkyblueBazza
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Where do you get that from?
The weather rate per 1000 of the population 2010 (when austerity began) to 2018 is actually generally lower than the 10yrs prior to austerity from what I found.
UK: death rate 2000-2017 | Statista
Even dear old factcheck says the quoted 120k deaths due to austerity cannot be proven from the data it is claimed to be from by the...wait for it...Ash Sarkar (Left-wing commentator)
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fatso
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Please don’t let facts get in the way of a good looney left meltdown!
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Happy Brexit
SkyblueBazza
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I think it more a part of their education as they mature to see that the further left you look, the ideals just become more unrealistic the deeper you look.
Wouldn't actually knock them for seeking a way to make it work personally as I think in an ideal world, the wealth health gap between rich & poor would be much better balanced & society overall would benefit. The "how?" is the biggest problem imo.
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Brighton Sky Blue
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You do see this goes both ways at both ends of the spectrum right? The belief that deregulation and tax giveaways on steroids will lead to prosperity has been debunked with disastrous consequences on each occasion it has been implemented. Most of us would agree that a balance of socialism and capitalism is the way to achieve a rounded society. The difficulty comes in where to draw the line between the state and the free market. Again I think most would agree that education and healthcare should be free at the point of use but for instance they wouldn't want state run fast food companies.
It just confuses me sometimes that people can see the benefit of more egalitarian policies but think they're too difficult to achieve so vote for the opposite.
SkyblueBazza
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Yes I see it from both ends...but Tory policies are not as far right to make them so unrealistic to implement as the Labour left policies are...especially in relation to the current state of play imo.
I mean...I see the benefit to me of a 4 day week. Especially if I get paid the same annual salary. Otherwise, it isn't going to work for me...just one example
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Brighton Sky Blue
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The 2019 manifesto was deliberately non-committal so as to make the primary focus on Brexit, but the 2017 one for example went on about mass expansion of grammar schools. A hugely expensive idea that would widen and entrench social inequality. Taking what they've done over the last decade to the point that secondary education is now completely privatised but because it wasn't all done in one go it doesn't hit the headlines. Schools are now run as businesses and the impact of that on classroom teaching has made my job considerably harder.
Labour's manifesto this time was one imagines a 'what the fuck' wish list made because they knew they weren't getting in. The 2017 manifesto however contains little to disagree with and the polling on those ideas backs me up. The dialogue in this country has been dragged to the right for years so that Thatcher's wet dreams are now seen as moderate positions. But proposing a £10 minimum wage makes you a Marxist.
clint van damme
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Are you denying deaths from austerity and cuts to disabled people's benefits are real?
clint van damme
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You should know better and are embarrassing yourself.
You're straying in 5o skyluedom territory but crack on.
Astute
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fatso
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Stella wuming though!
SkyblueBazza
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So are you saying the overall death rate would be lower if it wasn't for austerity?
I am confused as to how you can actually specifically claim that someone died specifically because of austerity...especially when the actual death rate is little different over the time period austerity has been in place from when it wasn't! In fact it is a tad lower.
As for the disabled, I'm not sure why you raise it? Is it relevant to the discussion?
For the record though it doesn't matter what scenario you paint, There are always cases where people suffer as a result of checks & criteria, which is very sad, but the system usually finds a way to get around it's own rules where genuinely needed.
Of course some would suggest a system where we just don't have rules & let everyone & anyone take however much they want from the country's coffers whenever they wish.
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SkyBlueCharlie9
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Why is JOB smug? A very clever chap and critical of all parties but he quite rightly focuses on the Tories most as they are in power. A very talented jounalist/presenter harsh but true and not many of them about holding people to account for their comments and opinions. Farage was destroyed by him. His criticism of Corbyn was bang on too. Boris wouldn't go near an interview with him in a month of Sundays. I can't think of another jouno who is as insightful of him. Makes people think.
SkyBlueCharlie9
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Are you suggesting 20k fewer police and hospitals failing left right and centre has not affected number of deaths? I saw it with my own eyes in Cov hospital with my old man passing away in a corridor lined up with a dozen others in 2017, with only one overstretched doctor in sight. Please think harder before you type in future.