Mark Robins (26 Viewers)

[Londonccfcfan]

You can’t define budget have no idea what we have at all and then get shown we can bid for players that are beyond Portsmouth’s financial constraints

Not going well is it?

Well, it's one thing to argue the relative merits of players and managers, but plain daft to be adamant about something that you obviously can't back up with simple figures.

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Interesting article whilst not definitive.Top 5 or 6 clubs blow away anything else in this division. Whatever you define as budget. Interesting how bookies at start of season don't usually get it wrong.

We were 10th favourites at best at start of season. There's a reason for that.

Lambert says he 'hasn't spent any money' - but Ipswich Town's budget will still be big by League One standards

 

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[itsabuzzard]

Interesting article whilst not definitive.Top 5 or 6 clubs blow away anything else in this division. Whatever you define as budget. Interesting how bookies at start of season don't usually get it wrong.

We were 10th favourites at best at start of season. There's a reason for that.

Lambert says he 'hasn't spent any money' - but Ipswich Town's budget will still be big by League One standards

Thanks for this. Interesting, yes, but as the piece says, still "educated guesswork", and nowhere near the complete financial picture. It would be interesting to see the figures for the current season and also to ask a bookie how they rank teams.

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[Grendel]

In the same window Portsmouth paid £1.5m for Marquis. Godden clearly wasn’t beyond their financial constraints, they just weren’t willing to pay £750k for him.

I was being facetious clearly

 

[CCFC88]

I would think that wages wise Sunderland would be paying a lot more than Barnsley

ssshhh, Sunderland have got a great manager in Parkinson, leave them be....

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Thanks for this. Interesting, yes, but as the piece says, still "educated guesswork", and nowhere near the complete financial picture. It would be interesting to see the figures for the current season and also to ask a bookie how they rank teams.

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I'm sure the bookies have their specialist analysts.
It's interesting to keep an eye on outright odds during the season. They usually arnt wrong (profit making business)and is a clear correlation between budget/resources and leGue odds.

Lucky to have you Robins. Take a bow.
We have a clear playing identity throughout the club.

 

[Grendel]

I'm sure the bookies have their specialist analysts.
It's interesting to keep an eye on outright odds during the season. They usually arnt wrong (profit making business)and is a clear correlation between budget/resources and leGue odds.

Lucky to have you Robins. Take a bow.
We have a clear playing identity throughout the club.

Bookies odds are largely influenced by money put on each team

 

[hill83]

Bookies odds are largely influenced by money put on each team

Exact reason England are favourites for the Euros at a lot of bookies this year but only in this country.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Bookies odds are largely influenced by money put on each team

Especially your £50

 

[covcity4life]

Whata going on in this thread exaxtly? Is a double promotion(if we manage it) par for course and not an achievement ir something?

 

[itsabuzzard]

Whata going on in this thread exaxtly? Is a double promotion(if we manage it) par for course and not an achievement ir something?

Is it May already?

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[hill83]

Whata going on in this thread exaxtly?

 

[covcity4life]

Is it May already?

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I said IF we manage it

 

[itsabuzzard]

I said IF we manage it

I'm glad you put the "if" in capitals.

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[covcity4life]

I'm glad you put the "if" in capitals.

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I put it in brackets. You missed it. Its ok mistakes happen

 

[itsabuzzard]

I put it in brackets. You missed it. Its ok mistakes happen

Have another look.

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[Evo1883]

Doing a wonderful job

43.3% win ratio and playing some of the best football in my lifetime.

The club and man are a perfect match

6th march 2020 will be 3 years in charge

 

[Skybluefaz]

Am I right in giving massive credit to Robins for developing what is a fairly unique system that is paying off big time at the minute. Obviously he deserves huge fucking credit. The question is, does anyone know of any other teams that use 3CB's, 2 wing backs, 2 holding midfield players, 2 10's and a striker? @Esoterica I imagine you'll know if anyone does

 

[Evo1883]

Am I right in giving massive credit to Robins for developing what is a fairly unique system that is paying off big time at the minute. Obviously he deserves huge fucking credit. The question is, does anyone know of any other teams that use 3CB's, 2 wing backs, 2 holding midfield players, 2 10's and a striker? @Esoterica I imagine you'll know if anyone does

Bristol City won league 1 playing 352... But I've never seen a team play 3421 that I can remember anyway

 

[Skybluefaz]

Bristol City won league 1 playing 352... But I've never seen a team play 3421 that I can remember anyway

Yeah, it's not a 352 in the traditional sense is it. People questioned Robins tactical ability, but he seems to find systems to suit players. Eventually maybe after a bit of trial and error sometimes.

 

[Fergusons_Beard]

Am I right in giving massive credit to Robins for developing what is a fairly unique system that is paying off big time at the minute. Obviously he deserves huge fucking credit. The question is, does anyone know of any other teams that use 3CB's, 2 wing backs, 2 holding midfield players, 2 10's and a striker? @Esoterica I imagine you'll know if anyone does

Sheffield United in championship last year played a very similar 3-4-2-1 . Although their CB overlap wing backs. Which City’s definitely don’t.


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[SBAndy]

Yeah, it's not a 352 in the traditional sense is it. People questioned Robins tactical ability, but he seems to find systems to suit players. Eventually maybe after a bit of trial and error sometimes.

Not meaning this as a pop at him, but half the time it seems that he accidentally stumbles upon the correct formula.

 

[Evo1883]

Yeah, it's not a 352 in the traditional sense is it. People questioned Robins tactical ability, but he seems to find systems to suit players. Eventually maybe after a bit of trial and error sometimes.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...TB5Hz3oyoCqLRFwqS&ampcf=1&cshid=1579430580800

 

[Skybluefaz]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...TB5Hz3oyoCqLRFwqS&ampcf=1&cshid=1579430580800

Thanks for that

 

[Fergusons_Beard]

Not meaning this as a pop at him, but half the time it seems that he accidentally stumbles upon the correct formula.

With a little help from Adi V..


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[Sky Blue Pete]

Not meaning this as a pop at him, but half the time it seems that he accidentally stumbles upon the correct formula.

Good tactic and as I get older more and more the wise amongst us are the ones who are willing to rethink and learn new ways and attitudes towards things you thought you already knew

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Doing a wonderful job

43.3% win ratio and playing some of the best football in my lifetime.

The club and man are a perfect match

6th march 2020 will be 3 years in charge

If he takes us up he is up there with Sillett & Hill.

 

[Grendel]

If he takes us up he is up there with Sillett & Hill.

He really isn’t - Sillett transformed a relegation team in the top league to title contenders in three years

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

He really isn’t - Sillett transformed a relegation team in the top league to title contenders in three years

Would be incredible job though

 

[Ring Of Steel]

He really isn’t - Sillett transformed a relegation team in the top league to title contenders in three years

Yes they often give out championships for coming 7th I suppose.
With what Robins has going on in the background what he is doing is incredible & if he gets us up then our top three managers ever are Sillett, Hill, Robins with Harry Storer a very close fourth.

 

[Evo1883]

He really isn’t - Sillett transformed a relegation team in the top league to title contenders in three years

We finished 21 points behind the champions?

We didn't contend the title whatsoever but I understand what you are getting at

Some would say Bobby gould built the foundations of that team

 

[covcity4life]

In a footballing world with less parity and where £££ rules do not play down what robins is doing i say

Long may it continue

 

[Grendel]

Would be incredible job though

Promotion from the lowest league would have been an inevitability at some point - teams of our size don’t stay in that league for long. Wolves in the 80’s were on a similar downward slide but came up instantly even with desperate crowds that season

You can’t really compare ratios and stats in the lower di idioms to the managers who achieved less in the top flight

 

[Grendel]

We finished 21 points behind the champions?

We didn't contend the title whatsoever but I understand what you are getting at

Some would say Bobby gould built the foundations of that team

We were third when we drew with Arsenal at the end of March

Gould signed few of the players in that team and most tellingly Regis has always said Gould virtually destroyed his career and Sillett made him the player he was

 

[Ring Of Steel]

We were third when we drew with Arsenal at the end of March

Gould signed few of the players in that team and most tellingly Regis has always said Gould virtually destroyed his career and Sillett made him the player he was

We slacked off after Easter, no title winning mentality, none whatever. They were on the beach from March onwards.

If we go up then If you can find any metric or justification which doesn’t show our top three managers ever being Sillett, Hill and Robins, especially considering the circumstances under which they all worked, then knock yourself out pal, you’ll be struggling.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

We were third when we drew with Arsenal at the end of March

Gould signed few of the players in that team and most tellingly Regis has always said Gould virtually destroyed his career and Sillett made him the player he was

Assuming you’re talking 1988/89 we never played with Arsenal in March let alone draw with them, it was 1-0 to us, late February if memory serves (I know cause it was half term). Kilcline scored with a penalty after missing one- get the basics right with this stuff. We played Liverpool at home shortly after and they put us to the sword winning 3-1 and it should have been 7.