Promotion - The Down side (11 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I remember the relegation battles season after season when we were in the top flight. Didn't ever consider wanting to be in a lower division so we could win more games. But it felt great when we beat one if the top sides.

I remember one season where we were safe with weeks to go. It was an anti climax. It felt so strange.

The away game at Everton when they had to get a result to survive and we were sitting in mid table was pretty surreal viewing

 

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[covcity4life]

Meh. Nice to be winning but its a case of been there done that

Achieve promotion and then never ever go back to league 1 or 2

 

[Grendel]

I actually don't like fish

Fuck off

 

[Grendel]

I seem to remember similar things being said when we came out of League 2, not done that bad have we.

I doubt it - teams with reasonable resource often do go up through these two leagues

 

[ccfc1234]

Just speaking to a friend of mine who lives near and supports Luton Town. He was surprisingly downcast - "we keeping losing week in week out and its depressing" - "I wish we were back in League One as every game was enjoyable, beating teams and living life at the top end all season"
If we went up would we end up living life at the bottom of The Championship?
If we did how would we feel I wonder?
Personally I would love to see us challenge higher quality teams in The Championship but I must admit that I might miss playing teams off the park with free flowing football in League One.
My mate ending up saying "Be careful what you wish for!"
I put the phone down and thought............................miserable fucker!

Agree it might be a couple of seasons of consolidation. But look at the journeys of Bournemouth, Brighton etc it's a fact for us to get back to the premiership which has to be the aim, we need to get back into the championship first.

 

[Grendel]

Agree it might be a couple of seasons of consolidation. But look at the journeys of Bournemouth, Brighton etc it's a fact for us to get back to the premiership which has to be the aim, we need to get back into the championship first.

Bournemouth spent millions. They spent £36,000 a week on a loan player in their promotion season for the last 6 weeks to sit on the bench

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Agree it might be a couple of seasons of consolidation. But look at the journeys of Bournemouth, Brighton etc it's a fact for us to get back to the premiership which has to be the aim, we need to get back into the championship first.

Bournemouth wage bill in Championship was £28m - it was no fluke and certainly not the way we’ll be doing it

 

[clint van damme]

Agree it might be a couple of seasons of consolidation. But look at the journeys of Bournemouth, Brighton etc it's a fact for us to get back to the premiership which has to be the aim, we need to get back into the championship first.

Bournemouth and Brighton were massively bank rolled though.
In all liklihood we'd need something similar

 

[GaryJones]

Wonder where that would come from - Sisu?

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Brighton £31m wage budget season they went up

 

[clint van damme]

Wonder where that would come from - Sisu?

No chance. That's why I think they'd consider selling.

 

[oldfiver]

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Our wage bill is believed to be around £3m isn’t it?


Championship average wage bill is £35 mill this year

Preston are/were paying £15m and Sheffield United £19m - I’m not sure we’ll be able to follow their blueprints

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

To be honest I think I would rather watch us win every week in Confernece North.

Fuck me, get a grip.

 

[Magwitch]

Bournemouth spent millions. They spent £36,000 a week on a loan player in their promotion season for the last 6 weeks to sit on the bench

Was that a gamble or investment

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Was that a gamble or investment

Yes let’s take gambles spending money we don’t have - that’s gone so well for us before

 

[shmmeee]

I had a mate once who said his missus offered him a threesome and he turned it down because “I’m not sure I could fulfil two women”.

This is a very similar situation. Regardless of whether you think you can manage it, you give it a go.

 

[ccfc1234]

Bournemouth wage bill in Championship was £28m - it was no fluke and certainly not the way we’ll be doing it

Not debating that Brighton and Bournemouth both spent money to take the step from Championship to Premier league. But unless we want to be a league 1 club for generations to come we need to get back to the Championship. It will be tougher, but not impossible to go up and develop a platform to look up from. Many want SISU gone, we will be a more attractive proposition to a rich investor if we went up.

A little bit surprised that some seem to making a case that progress, which in football is measured by being upwardly mobile could be a negative.

 

[robbiekeane]

Fuck off

Aggressive

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Yes let’s take gambles spending money we don’t have - that’s gone so well for us before

Says the guy who spent all day saying how much money Robins has spent

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Not debating that Brighton and Bournemouth both spent money to take the step from Championship to Premier league. But unless we want to be a league 1 club for generations to come we need to get back to the Championship. It will be tougher, but not impossible to go up and develop a platform to look up from. Many want SISU gone, we will be a more attractive proposition to a rich investor if we went up.

A little bit surprised that some seem to making a case that progress, which in football is measured by being upwardly mobile could be a negative.

“unless we want to be a league one club for generations to come we have to get back in the championship”

My god, with powers of deduction like this I’m surprised you have’t been snapped up by MI5

 

[Ring Of Steel]

it's a fact for us to get back to the premiership which has to be the aim, we need to get back into the championship first.

No shit, sherlock- did you think there was a way to miss out the Chanpionship?

 

[usskyblue]

Fuck, this thread is testing...but I’ve been working on being less condescending.

(Condescending means talking down to people).

 

[Kubrick]

No shit, sherlock- did you think there was a way to miss out the Chanpionship?

Championship.

 

[SkyblueTexan]

We should aim to play at the highest level. Simple as that. Don’t worry about challenges ahead. If we stay in League 1, we don’t know how next season will play out. What if our best players leave and if we went back to League 2? We are playing a good brand of football that should suit us in a better league. We must also trust Robins, Adi and their recruitment team to bring in better players to help us survive in the Championship and consolidate. Then make a push for promotion much like how we did last season and are doing this season.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

This is definitely our best chance of going up this season.

Next month is massive in the league.

Portsmouth
Wycombe
Rotherham

All at home on Tuesday night. We need to be looking at 6 points minimum from these teams.

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[itsabuzzard]

Fuck, this thread is testing...but I’ve been working on being less condescending.

(Condescending means talking down to people).

Try harder.

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[Covstu]

Generally if you don’t improve the squad you are going back down, Luton, Rotherham, Barnsley etc haven’t invested significantly and they yo yo back and forth.
I must admit the championship era was depressing as we never competed and was a matter of time we went down with the lack of investment, similar to Ipswich who sat in that league for years doing nothing. Constant mid table positions isn’t existing in the league either.

we would need to add some real quality to the side to stay up initially but if we don’t strive for promotion then there is no point!

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Next month is massive in the league.
Portsmouth
Wycombe
Rotherham
All at home on Tuesday night. We need to be looking at 6 points minimum from these teams.

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It’s gonna be difficult playing all those teams in one night. I just hope that we can score more goals then them, because my calculations suggest that this is the only way we can win.

And why would we set out to lose one of these games, why not try to win them all?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Generally if you don’t improve the squad you are going back down, Luton, Rotherham, Barnsley etc haven’t invested significantly and they yo yo back and forth.
I must admit the championship era was depressing as we never competed and was a matter of time we went down with the lack of investment, similar to Ipswich who sat in that league for years doing nothing. Constant mid table positions isn’t existing in the league either.

we would need to add some real quality to the side to stay up initially but if we don’t strive for protection then there is no point!

Who do we need to strive for protection from?

Are you all on some kind of medication or something?

 

[Covstu]

Who do we need to strive for protection from?

Are you all on some kind of medication or something?

Hilarious, just hilarious

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I had a mate once who said his missus offered him a threesome and he turned it down because “I’m not sure I could fulfil two women”.

This is a very similar situation. Regardless of whether you think you can manage it, you give it a go.

I hope you lynched him.

 

[shmmeee]

I hope you lynched him.

No I stole his missus (joking)

 

[Gibbo]

Nah give me the late 90s and finishing 15th and 16th in the premier league over now any day of the week

NO thank you, it was grim every week. Just the odd win. The goal has to be challenging for the Play Offs in the Championship, but never actually making it to the Prem. It is fun expecting to win every week whoever the opposition and it is crap living off morsels. Only if we were fortunate enough to find an owner like that of Leicester, Bournemouth or Wolves - one prepared to finance a big P & L loss - would that change.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Not sure about that. The novelty factor would create an initial bounce but if we were getting tonked every week I think the novelty would wear off.

We're definitely on an upwards curve and the momentum behind that is key. So I want us to go up (and keep on going up) but if it meant we'd get tonked every week we'd lose that momentum and crucially the fans who we're already struggling with playing in Brum. How many are going to travel there to see up beaten on a regular basis? Of course the extra money would be good, but with it comes higher wages if you want to be competitive and there's a fair argument that Championship is the worst for wages from clubs either having players after relegation or chasing the PL big bucks, but not having the same level of revenue.

So if we could go up, play this type of entertaining football (hopefully with a few more goals) and get midtable to begin with brilliant. If we're going up to come back down, no thanks. But from where we are right now if we failed to get playoffs it would be quite deflating anyway. So damned if we do, damned if we don't really.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

NO thank you, it was grim every week. Just the odd win. The goal has to be challenging for the Play Offs in the Championship, but never actually making it to the Prem. It is fun expecting to win every week whoever the opposition and it is crap living off morsels. Only if we were fortunate enough to find an owner like that of Leicester, Bournemouth or Wolves - one prepared to finance a big P & L loss - would that change.

Yeah but the odd win felt great. I don’t see how hoping to finish 7th in the second tier is an aspiration.

the last game staying up games were far better than it would be just missing out on promotion every season