Robins post match/mcallum sale (7 Viewers)

Grendel

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Wonder if there will be a second bid coming in today?

You would assume so. If it is a premier league club McCallum and certainly his agent would be pushing a move
 

cc84cov

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I'd be surprised if the bidding club doesn't make further bid(s)
I don't think we're under pressure to sell
It will just be a case of whether an offer too big to refuse arrives before the deadline
Window closes tomorrow I’m expecting to see things hot up usually there is a surprise in the jan window
 

torchomatic

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I wonder what Sam McCallum will think is best for Sam McCallum? If he stays he will get game time, more experience but a lot less money. If he goes he will get more money, that Range Rover Sport he's had his eye on, but probably be playing in the U23s in front a few old blokes on a Tuesday afternoon. I hope he is sensisible.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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I wonder what Sam McCallum will think is best for Sam McCallum? If he stays he will get get game time, more experience but a lot less money. If he goes he will get more money, that Range Rover Sport he's had his eye on, but probably be playing in the U23s in front a few old blokes on a Tuesday afternoon. I hope he sensisible.

He left Herne Bay’s first team to go into our 23s didn’t he? So did the likes of Allasani, Walters, Bosma and Newton leave playing first team to play in our 23s.
 

torchomatic

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He left Herne Bay’s first team to go into our 23s didn’t he? So did the likes of Allasani, Bosma and Newton leave playing first team to play in our 23s.

Yes, he did, but he has had a taste of first team football now. He is developing. He is playing competitive football. Going back to U23s would surely be a backward step?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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Yes, he did, but he has had a taste of first team football now. He is developing. He is playing competitive football. Going back to U23s would surely be a backward step?

Well yes but if he believes in his own ability to play at that level then he’ll be going.

The players I mentioned were all playing first team at their clubs but it’s always “great signing exactly what we should be doing” and not bemoaning them when we sign them to develop
 

Joy Division

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If I was him a move to Norwich or Bournemouth would be a good choice. Good stable clubs with premier league income who like developing youth but with a strong possibility of being relegated and more potential to be in and around the first team next season.
 

rob9872

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Whether it's Norwich or Bournemouth, there's a chance we'll be in the same league as either or both next season anyhow. That said, a decent pathway in a team likely to be doing well in the Champ next season could get him a bigger move the year after when older, stronger and more experienced (ala Maddison) so a chunky add on fee would be the best option (lower sale value with 25% not the usual 10% would be nice)
 

rob9872

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This is taking the piss now! Am I on the Truman show? Posted that at the same time as me too!
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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Whether it's Norwich or Bournemouth, there's a chance we'll be in the same league as either or both next season anyhow. That said, a decent pathway in a team likely to be doing well in the Champ next season could get him a bigger move the year after when older, stronger and more experienced (ala Maddison) so a chunky add on fee would be the best option (lower sale value with 25% not the usual 10% would be nice)

The club has to negotiate the best fee for the club now which will be most of it upfront.

If you want a much bigger sell on fee than that means there’d be less upfront money and the club would be taking a huge gamble that the player first gets into their first team which is difficult as it is and then performs to a level bigger clubs want him. If it does happen would take about 2 or 3 years, possibly longer
 

rob9872

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The club has to negotiate the best fee for the club now which will be most of it upfront.

If you want a much bigger sell on fee than that means there’d be less upfront money and the club would be taking a huge gamble that the player first gets into their first team which is difficult as it is and then performs to a level bigger clubs want him. If it does happen would take about 2 or 3 years, possibly longer
I agree, but if we can get % of £m in two seasons, then having sold Bayliss this season to plug the gap, surely they can see the benefit in what Wilson Maddison etc are going to be? Yes he could be a Gael or a Ben Stevenson, but only need one of them to come off to soak up all the others. I guess it depends if they think they'll still be here in a couple of years.
 

torchomatic

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If I was him a move to Norwich or Bournemouth would be a good choice. Good stable clubs with premier league income who like developing youth but with a strong possibility of being relegated and more potential to be in and around the first team next season.

Agree, Maddison and Wilson did it the right way.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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I agree, but if we can get % of £m in two seasons, then having sold Bayliss this season to plug the gap, surely they can see the benefit in what Wilson Maddison etc are going to be? Yes he could be a Gael or a Ben Stevenson, but only need one of them to come off to soak up all the others. I guess it depends if they think they'll still be here in a couple of years.

We don’t have this privilege unfortunately. We are a club who needs as much upfront money as possible

Upfront money is guaranteed. A sell on fee is not and is unlikely to ever happen. How many sell on fees have we actually benefited from in the last 15 years?
 

Grendel

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From his perspective I’m sure he’d wavy to go as I’d guess it’s a much bigger wage. Footballs a ruthless game - he could get an injury like Jones and the chance never materialises or like Bigiramana have one shot at it and financially set themselves up
 

rob9872

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We don’t have this privilege unfortunately. We are a club who needs as much upfront money as possible

Upfront money is guaranteed. A sell on fee is not and is unlikely to ever happen. How many sell on fees have we actually benefited from in the last 15 years?
I guess it depends if they rust in what the playing staff say and if Robins thinks what he has is special or not. We would certainly have benefitted more from Maddison or Wilson with a bigger sell on fee, but of course you're right it is a gamble.
 

fernandopartridge

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If I was him a move to Norwich or Bournemouth would be a good choice. Good stable clubs with premier league income who like developing youth but with a strong possibility of being relegated and more potential to be in and around the first team next season.
Bournemouth would not be a good choice, if they (hopefully) get relegated, they'll be back in League 1 within a few years
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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I don’t think it would be in Robins interest to reduce the fee significantly and ask the board for a bigger sell on. It’s unlikely to ever come to fruition and if it did he may not even be here then. His job is to build the most competitive team he can for the current/next season and that’s only more likely to happen by getting the most upfront money possible
 

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