Robins post match/mcallum sale (6 Viewers)

[Nick]

Row 28 block 3 pop down

Is that the bit you were in the other week that gave you home broadband?

 

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[better days]

I think we have to take that offer really, if it's as reported - interesting to know what the exact breakdown of up front versus add-ons is mind. Personally don't think Robins will add to the squad, I doubt he'll have much of the transfer fee to work with, certainly not enough for us to be looking at a higher bracket of player that would really improve us. I'd have taken ending the window with the squad we started it with and if McCallum is loaned back then, to an extent, I'm pleased enough.

That's a pretty good synopsis
Robins has said he's happy with his squad so I would be surprised if he brings any one else in
Especially if Mccullum is being loaned back

 

[skyblueelephant76]

The artcle says 'could be worth in excess of £3m ' which to me suggests an inital fee with add ons to take it to that 3m figure. So maybe not as much as we hope for upfront.

It says:

.. "could be worth in excess of £3m, plus the usual add-ons for appearances, international caps and a sell-on clause."

 

[covcity4life]

If hes loaned back we should play the best lb

Currently thats mcallum

Noone should be happy to diminish our chances of promotion to have a dig at a player who leaves?

 

[Woodster]

I am not keen on the loan backs, if he does come back then let him be on the bench as cover.

Yeah I'd do the same, but I don't think he's the type that if called upon if Mason were to get injured would let you down though which I know was a criticism of Maddison. I do get the feeling though that Robins would still play McCallum/

 

[better days]

If hes loaned back we should play the best lb

Currently thats mcallum

Noone should be happy to diminish our chances of promotion to have a dig at a player who leaves?

We have a huge number of games coming up
We will need 2 good guys for every position

 

[BornSlippySkyBlue]

If hes loaned back we should play the best lb

Currently thats mcallum

Noone should be happy to diminish our chances of promotion to have a dig at a player who leaves?

Don’t thinks it’s a dig as much as why develop someone else’s player when we have our own in the same position who also needs games and is of a similar level, sort of.

Also loans coming back on twice the money can’t be great for morale.

 

[CV3_PUSB]

I'm also confident that Brandon Mason can fill the role with relative ease... But maybe that's just me

Agreed. Mason was having a good season before his injury and subsequently McCallum taking his place. I would accept the £3m, get him loaned back to us then find a replacement in the summer.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

And before some blame the club, remember there’s a player and his representatives involved here who will want a move.

It was clear when all the articles saying Man City and Liverpool wanted him that they were touting him around trying to gain a bigger profile like Maddison did before ending up at a much smaller club

 

[Nick]

Don’t thinks it’s a dig as much as why develop someone else’s player when we have our own in the same position who also needs games and is of a similar level, sort of.

Also loans coming back on twice the money can’t be great for morale.

Yeah exactly.

Mason would then be our own player, McCallum wouldn't. There's not a huge amount of difference in their level at the minute so let Mason develop.

 

[Nick]

And before some blame the club, remember there’s a player and his representatives involved here who will want a move.

It was clear when all the articles saying Man City and Liverpool wanted him that they were touting him around trying to gain a bigger profile like Maddison did before ending up at a much smaller club

PSG as well?

 

[usskyblue]

You play your best players whenever possible (loans or permanents). If McCallum is loaned back, he should play unless his form drops.

 

[coop]

Sell for 3m they won't turn that down.

 

[cc84cov]

Times like this not playing at home is a shitter more than ever as books need balancing we’ve took good Money past year,Chaplin Bayliss & McCallum going out the door,would be nice to get a good portion of that to invest even 500k would be good.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

PSG as well?

Yes I found that one especially hard to believe that the sporting director of a major club flies over for a cup replay doing no research that he might not be playing. But of course it gets broadcasted to hundreds of thousands of people and that’s the aim to raise his profile

Was quite telling they didn’t run an article on it or no one took a picture of him

 

[Limey]

3m...getting closer to a decent valuation.

Good negotiation work by the club here. Had we had gone in expecting 1.5m we would have got shafted for less.

 

[BornSlippySkyBlue]

You play your best players whenever possible (loans or permanents). If McCallum is loaned back, he should play unless his form drops.

Is McCallum so much better than Mason that we can afford to risk losing him too? I mean if he gets annoyed about being second choice to a loanee he might look at his options, and then we go from the best left sided defence we’ve had for years to scratching around for another bargain to fill the gap.

Would normally agree with your statement, but feel the bigger picture is relevant here. Obviously if Mason plays and isn’t up to it, change things, otherwise develop our own player.

 

[Tommo1993]

Call it £4m up front and forget the loan. Don’t really want us developing other clubs players when we already have a good enough replacement in Mason.

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Call it £4m up front and forget the loan. Don’t really want us developing other clubs players when we already have a good enough replacement in Mason.

We’re a ‘selling club’. Developing youngsters for other clubs is kind of what we do with all our players...and why our strategy is to get young players in the first team.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

It says:

.. "could be worth in excess of £3m, plus the usual add-ons for appearances, international caps and a sell-on clause."

If this in fact the case, then £3M is a lot of money for a left back in League one. Its a good deal for all parties, including MaCallum ..if its confirmed.

A great price for someone who was was not worth alot just a few months when he broke into the side.

 

[ccfchoi87]

The loan back is essential in my opinion. I doubt there is a left back available (who may have to be willing to sit on the bench) as good as McCallum at such late notice.

 

[BornSlippySkyBlue]

We’re a ‘selling club’. Developing youngsters for other clubs is kind of what we do with all our players...and why our strategy is to get young players in the first team.

Indeed, but if we have the option of developing our own player or someone else’s? After all, we’ve already sold McCallum (maybe), we should be developing the next sale...

 

[mr_monkey]

Times like this not playing at home is a shitter more than ever as books need balancing we’ve took good Money past year,Chaplin Bayliss & McCallum going out the door,would be nice to get a good portion of that to invest even 500k would be good.

How about the money on godden? That was 750k from what I remember, so it's not like we haven't spent the money

 

[usskyblue]

Is McCallum so much better than Mason that we can afford to risk losing him too? I mean if he gets annoyed about being second choice to a loanee he might look at his options, and then we go from the best left sided defence we’ve had for years to scratching around for another bargain to fill the gap.

Would normally agree with your statement, but feel the bigger picture is relevant here. Obviously if Mason plays and isn’t up to it, change things, otherwise develop our own player.

I think it’s reasonable that Mason should be rotated in for certain games (cup games or to cover fatigue) but you ask any manager and they’ll tell you that they’ll pick their strongest eleven. This is a results business and the managers have a short shelf life if results are poor.

As far as the player, he could cop an attitude or work harder. His choice will determine his future.

 

[cc84cov]

Wouldn’t be surprised to see a loan coming from Norwich in the deal

 

[Tommo1993]

We’re a ‘selling club’. Developing youngsters for other clubs is kind of what we do with all our players...and why our strategy is to get young players in the first team.

Absolutely no problem with selling him. As long as we don’t get mugged off

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Yeah exactly.

Mason would then be our own player, McCallum wouldn't. There's not a huge amount of difference in their level at the minute so let Mason develop.

I don't care who owns who, we need to play our best team.

Robins doesn't seem like the sentimental type to me who'd play Mason just because he's 'one of us', and if that was the case there would be no point having him back. If Robins sees him as better then Mason, as he clearly does, then he needs to continue to play him, its whats best for the team. We aren't out to be all warm & fuzzy and hand some development opportunities out, we're here to win games. We can worry about all that stuff when we're a bit further up the leagues.

You pick your strongest 11, not your favourite 11.

 

[BornSlippySkyBlue]

I think it’s reasonable that Mason should be rotated in for certain games (cup games or to cover fatigue) but you ask any manager and they’ll tell you that they’ll pick their strongest eleven. This is a results business and the managers have a short shelf life if results are poor.

As far as the player, he could cop an attitude or work harder. His choice will determine his future.

Is McCallum that far ahead of Mason though? And yes, if he strops he goes — still leaves us without a left back.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I think it’s reasonable that Mason should be rotated in for certain games (cup games or to cover fatigue) but you ask any manager and they’ll tell you that they’ll pick their strongest eleven. This is a results business and the managers have a short shelf life if results are poor.

As far as the player, he could cop an attitude or work harder. His choice will determine his future.

Yes, and if he cops an attitude then he's out, decision made for Robins, its hardly going to impress his new employers if he gets a rep before he even joins them is it. I can't see him coming back and acting the big 'un.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Is McCallum that far ahead of Mason though? And yes, if he strops he goes — still leaves us without a left back.

It doesn't matter what we think, Robins clearly rates McAllum more than Mason, and if thats the case then he should play him week in & week out, unless his attitude goes or its clear his heart isn't in it

 

[BornSlippySkyBlue]

I don't care who owns who, we need to play our best team.

Robins doesn't seem like the sentimental type to me who'd play Mason just because he's 'one of us', and if that was the case there would be no point having him back. If Robins sees him as better then Mason, as he clearly does, then he needs to continue to play him, its whats best for the team. We aren't out to be all warm & fuzzy and hand some development opportunities out, we're here to win games. We can worry about all that stuff when we're a bit further up the leagues.

You pick your strongest 11, not your favourite 11.

It’s not about favourites, it’s about what’s best for the team / club. Developing our own player, arguably, is better for the club. Assuming you’re not playing someone who’s rubbish, but Mason isn’t rubbish, he’s a damn good left back who has been a bit unlucky that we discovered McCallum.

 

[cc84cov]

It doesn't matter what we think, Robins clearly rates McAllum more than Mason, and if thats the case then he should play him week in & week out, unless his attitude goes or its clear his heart isn't in it

Think it was Rotherham away mason got bullied McCallum came in from then onwards,that’s my only problem with mason is his size.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

It’s not about favourites, it’s about what’s best for the team / club. Developing our own player, arguably, is better for the club. Assuming you’re not playing someone who’s rubbish, but Mason isn’t rubbish, he’s a damn good left back who has been a bit unlucky that we discovered McCallum.

No. its not about that, we are not a Premiership club who can come 12th and be happy & be giving minutes purely so we can develop players.

We have to win some games to get out of the third division, not start getting ideas above our station that we have time right now to be bringing players on in the midst of a promotion battle. Best team, every game, forget next season- if Mason is that good then he'll just get sold as well in June and what was the point of weakening the team then? Get promotion this season, now, thats the only priority while we have a shot at it.

 

[skyblueusername]

This could be right
Norwich has close association with us

Is that because you used to play for them in the 90's?

 

[cc84cov]

Is that because you used to play for them in the 90's?

I hope “Mark” ( @better days ) is on the case to get us a loan from them