Stadium (16 Viewers)

[Ring Of Steel]

If we go up and IF our manager is allowed to bring in three or four better players perhaps a couple of loans I don’t think we will struggle, big statement and I know it’s a bold statement but we have a talented group of players add better quality to them I think we can be a surprise package.

Don’t talk to me about surprise packages, got 3 of those for Xmas and they were shit tbh

 

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[Ring Of Steel]

I don’t, but every year I see starlets sold off the latest to a club we might well be playing next season mainly because our owner has decided to lose £200000 a home match and for what ?

That’s a whole other argument, is it the owners who decided to lose £200k by going to St Andrews, or is it a bit deeper than that. I doubt they’ve done it for the hell of it and to piss us all off.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

You are aware we sold players at the Ricoh too and would be even if we played in front of 40,000 as we are a League One club?

Also who out of Coventry or Norwich who do you think would be better equipped if we found ourselves in the same league next season?

Very true, but look at Stoke compared with, say, Preston

 

[Magwitch]

Of course we sell players and have for decades in fact all clubs below the prem and some in are selling clubs. My fear isn’t that so much it’s our owner policy towards ccfc but I’ll be more than happy to throw my hands up and say I got it wrong.

 

[Magwitch]

Yes it a mystery really, what is the sisu aim or plan try as I might it all makes no sense to me.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Yes it a mystery really, what is the sisu aim or plan try as I might it all makes no sense to me.

££££££

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

££££££

They own a business that is leaking money (like most clubs). Forgetting history (which I know is difficult) the 'model' they have for us at the moment makes sense to me (I'm no fan of SISU). The ground situation, which has been done to death, is frustrating, and I want to get back to Coventry, if for no other reason that it may prolong MR's stay with us, and give us a fighting chance of progressing as a club.

 

[Flying Fokker]

They own a business that is leaking money (like most clubs). Forgetting history (which I know is difficult) the 'model' they have for us at the moment makes sense to me (I'm no fan of SISU). The ground situation, which has been done to death, is frustrating, and I want to get back to Coventry, if for no other reason that it may prolong MR's stay with us, and give us a fighting chance of progressing as a club.

The leaking money bit isn’t helped by playing away from the home city. Plus they have very good ways of manipulating debt whilst at the same time paying themselves handsomely. I suggest their business model would work even better playing in Coventry. Instead of killing the brand locally.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

They own a business that is leaking money (like most clubs). Forgetting history (which I know is difficult) the 'model' they have for us at the moment makes sense to me (I'm no fan of SISU). The ground situation, which has been done to death, is frustrating, and I want to get back to Coventry, if for no other reason that it may prolong MR's stay with us, and give us a fighting chance of progressing as a club.

Yep I think that’s my opinion too. Initially it made sense to invest and speculate under Coleman, in hindsight the ground should have been important too. And now attempting to run the club sustainably makes perfect sense. Someone said on another thread that she has no interest in ccfc it’s just a business and I’m not sure that’s true

 

[TheParsonsHose]

I think our council would oppose anything we put forward even if....

1. We located some land
2. Found some funding

It's such a toxic relationship.

 

[ricohroar]

Most probably never gonna happen but love to see a compact intimidating steep standed stadium like this boa vista stadium - Google Search the foot print of the place is small too.

 

[Magwitch]

I try and keep away from our ground issue now it’s done to death and often prompts lots of anti Wasp threads going over and over the same. My position is I worry, we are now in February and we are still not aware of what might happen. Personally I still see no reasoning to one, our owners EU court decision and two, the Ricoh owners stance.
In my opinion we are in our best position for promotion for years with a squad I think will do better than what some think. This ground limbo situation has got to weigh on our manager. At the end of the season there will be a number of championship managers moved on as usual and he will be high on lists.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I try and keep away from our ground issue now it’s done to death and often prompts lots of anti Wasp threads going over and over the same. My position is I worry, we are now in February and we are still not aware of what might happen. Personally I still see no reasoning to one, our owners EU court decision and two, the Ricoh owners stance.
In my opinion we are in our best position for promotion for years with a squad I think will do better than what some think. This ground limbo situation has got to weigh on our manager. At the end of the season there will be a number of championship managers moved on as usual and he will be high on lists.

I completely agree about the sense. I wouldn’t particularly want more than assurances about the start of next season and if was February last year they were talking. I’m really hopeful sense will prevail and something can be announced about next year with an encouragement for this but it can’t be a short term deal with very little access to revenues that’s not sustainable

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I don’t see anything changing with returning to Coventry as nobody seems to be budging and hopefully by talk is kept quite so it doesn’t put the players off at this important time.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

The leaking money bit isn’t helped by playing away from the home city. Plus they have very good ways of manipulating debt whilst at the same time paying themselves handsomely. I suggest their business model would work even better playing in Coventry. Instead of killing the brand locally.

Agree we need to be back. A big shame that some City fans are missing out on participating in what has been our most successful (so far) and entertaining season in decades.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I don’t see anything changing with returning to Coventry as nobody seems to be budging and hopefully by talk is kept quite so it doesn’t put the players off at this important time.

Do you not think they’ve shown their professionalism

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Do you not think they’ve shown their professionalism

Yes but we need nothing to get in the way we have a real chance to get up. I also don’t think players care too much where they play.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Yes but we need nothing to get in the way we have a real chance to get up. I also don’t think players care too much where they play.

Yep they don’t seem to care. Good work happening at Ryton. I think robins is talking next season too

 

[pusbccfc]

The Ricoh is a sub standard stadium, cheaply finished with no particular design features. It has a decent capacity but that's it.

Which stadium, built around the same time in England is far superior? Its better than Leicester, Southampton and comparable to Derby.

It's hosted far better concerts, Olympic football and will be a commonwealth stadium.

It may have been poorly kept, but it's a good stadium and as I said originally, far better than a cheap thing we would ever build now.

 

[sb84]

I think Ricoh is fine, easy to get to and big enough for anything we will ever need. However that said I do prefer the design, more modern look and layout of Stadium MK, apparently built by the same construction company.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Which stadium, built around the same time in England is far superior? Its better than Leicester, Southampton and comparable to Derby.

It's hosted far better concerts, Olympic football and will be a commonwealth stadium.

It may have been poorly kept, but it's a good stadium and as I said originally, far better than a cheap thing we would ever build now.

You're right actually. Right ground, badly managed & nothing worth watching there for over a decade.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

Another 2 stadiums which would suit us imo and have capacities of around 23000, The Swedbank Stadion home of FC Malmö and Children's Mercy Park home of Kansas City. Both teams colours are Sky Blue and both have a single tiered low level stand behind one goal for standing.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

The build was rushed at the end and certain areas got left, it might not be popular but the colour doesn’t help it the blue is terrible and looks faded it would have been better in I hate to say this but black.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

The build was rushed at the end and certain areas got left, it might not be popular but the colour doesn’t help it the blue is terrible and looks faded it would have been better in I hate to say this but black.

Sky blue is an awful colour for seats, unless every seat is filled its glaring & obvious there are big swathes of sky blue seating around the place. The darker the seat the better for 'hiding' the perception that there isn't a big crowd, you are right. Its also why some newer grounds deliberately have multicoloured seats- black, brown, yellow etc all mixed up, that is designed to break up the pattern of rows of seats and give the perception there are people in those seats and hide the impression that the stand is in fact half empty. Not saying we should do it and I don't know what we should do, but atmosphere-wise darker seats are better.

 

[skyblueinBaku]

I think Ricoh is fine, easy to get to and big enough for anything we will ever need. However that said I do prefer the design, more modern look and layout of Stadium MK, apparently built by the same construction company.

I like the MK stadium, too.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Sky blue is an awful colour for seats, unless every seat is filled its glaring & obvious there are big swathes of sky blue seating around the place. The darker the seat the better for 'hiding' the perception that there isn't a big crowd, you are right. Its also why some newer grounds deliberately have multicoloured seats- black, brown, yellow etc all mixed up, that is designed to break up the pattern of rows of seats and give the perception there are people in those seats and hide the impression that the stand is in fact half empty. Not saying we should do it and I don't know what we should do, but atmosphere-wise darker seats are better.

It also looks bad on the outside of the ground

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I like the MK stadium, too.

me too, and referring to Terry Gibson's point the fact the seats are all dark makes a big difference to them, can you imagine 22,000 empty white seats in that place, it would be awful.

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

Mmmmmm stadium architecture......
Gynnsthetonic - I really like the FC Malmo Swedbank Stadion. I also really like Loftus Road with tiered stands and BWFCs curvy Reebok stadiums (although I've never been to either). Secret is not too much concrete on show, disguise the exit points, an interesting roof, a good concourse and no large blank back walls like main stand at Ricoh! Personnaly I hate massive tarmac car parks around stadium....look horrendous and awkward to navigate for fans. Would much prefer a space for fans to socialise and party before going into ground akin to Wembley. This is rarely factored into designs around stadiums. There would be massive demand for this on a January evening match v Fleetwood !!!!!
This is one hell of a weird postmodern structure the Pancho Arena in Hungary

Speckled sky blue seats to disguise the crowd gap problem here?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Mmmmmm stadium architecture......
Gynnsthetonic - I really like the FC Malmo Swedbank Stadion. I also really like Loftus Road with tiered stands and BWFCs curvy Reebok stadiums (although I've never been to either). Secret is not too much concrete on show, disguise the exit points, an interesting roof, a good concourse and no large blank back walls like main stand at Ricoh! Personnaly I hate massive tarmac car parks around stadium....look horrendous and awkward to navigate for fans. Would much prefer a space for fans to socialise and party before going into ground akin to Wembley. This is rarely factored into designs around stadiums. There would be massive demand for this on a January evening match v Fleetwood !!!!!
This is one hell of a weird postmodern structure the Pancho Arena in Hungary

Speckled sky blue seats to disguise the crowd gap problem here?

Any stadium nerd is automatically a friend of mine

Yes- speckling is a better way to put it.

The newer US stadiums are miles ahead now (albeit of little relevance to us as they are way too big & expensive), they are designed specifically with acoustics in mind and have the communal areas you talk about- have you seen the Atlanta Falcons stadium? Out of this world. Stadium design has come a million miles even since the Ricoh. I have a soft spot for Oviedo's stadium in Spain- 4 double deckers, steep and about 30k, a proper 'football ground'

 

[Ring Of Steel]

If you were going to name three grounds which sum up what English football 'used' to be and summed up what 'going to the football' was all about, I thnk they'd be: Upton Park third, just for sheer noise & intimidation, like you're an unwelcome guest at an East End party, the old Villa Park for the grandeur, eccentric nature of the 4 different stands & the scale of the Holte, and (don't laugh)... the baseball ground. Crammed into a tiny space, stands right up to the pitch & boxed in, really individual & 'traditional' stands, and nowhere for the sound to go apart from up so it sounded like there were 40,000 in there when there were barely half that.

 

[Tommo1993]

Used to think Molineux was pretty good and intimidating before they expanded that stand and made it pretty soulless. Southbank still pretty good though.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Used to think Molineux was pretty good and intimidating before they expanded that stand and made it pretty soulless. Southbank still pretty good though.

I never went to the old Molineux but I know what you mean- that end was even bigger than the Holte. They used to be able to get almost the entire Ricoh in that one end, 30,000 people- must have been quite some sight.

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

If you were going to name three grounds which sum up what English football 'used' to be and summed up what 'going to the football' was all about, I thnk they'd be: Upton Park third, just for sheer noise & intimidation, like you're an unwelcome guest at an East End party, the old Villa Park for the grandeur, eccentric nature of the 4 different stands & the scale of the Holte, and (don't laugh)... the baseball ground. Crammed into a tiny space, stands right up to the pitch & boxed in, really individual & 'traditional' stands, and nowhere for the sound to go apart from up so it sounded like there were 40,000 in there when there were barely half that.

The Baseball ground was also one of the worst to actually watch the game. Some areas of terracing were below pitch level.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

The Baseball ground was also one of the worst to actually watch the game. Some areas of terracing were below pitch level.

Yep, another regular feature of going to the football 'back in the day'!

 

[Tommo1993]

I never went to the old Molineux but I know what you mean- that end was even bigger than the Holte. They used to be able to get almost the entire Ricoh in that one end, 30,000 people- must have been quite some sight.

Other than that and Upton Park like you mentioned I can’t think of much more, being too late for that generation. What was weird about Upton Park was Chris Hussey very narrowly missing the post with a half volley.

Maybe Elland Road when they used to put fans in that corner.