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Wasps downward spiral... (24 Viewers)
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Terry Gibson's perm
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The guy who told my parents is a former city fan who now is a life long wasps fan, another thing destined to fail who would go there most days.
Nick
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Probably believes any old shit then
fernandopartridge
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Yeah, as if the place would survive on a dozen Wasps matches a season. These people are stupid
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Work is happening there the tree are cleared as I said if it happens expect it to fail and then their owner will buy the land and develop it
Peter Billing
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Odd they made a statement to the national media but not one word to fans on their website or social media. What chances his 'stepping back' is a fudge around the cash situation to pay up his contract.
My five pence is it appears that as Wasps have had some luck with saracans being relegated dai Young has been in talks with the wasps ‘owner’ regarding next season and been told he hasn’t any investment available for new players in the close season to keep them up decided then it’s best they have part there ways now.
fernandopartridge
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Surely time for a unity campaign to boycott Wasps. Like you say wingy it's a closed shop in all but name. I hope the top level of the game gets the implosion it deserves.
Don't think a cut in funding will hurt Saracens will it? They are in this position because they had too much money they wanted to spend if anything.
Grendel
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Its the opposite - Saracans are protected and it’s just a way to getting a 13 club premier league and freeze relegation
Liquid Gold
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I don't get them. There's no relagation in american sports but there are shit laods of teams so it stays interesting. I don't know where the entertainment value is in playing the same 12 sides year after year.
Kneeza
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It's pretty much that now. And it's shit.
chiefdave
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Think its a stupid route to go down. For a start you've created a league where every year all but a handful of games will be meaningless. What makes them think fans of lower half sides will keep paying week in week out to watch meaningless matches, or that the TV audience will bother tuning in?
Seems a bit of a house of cards as well. What happens when the teams at the bottom start deciding they're better off in the Championship? Can't think of a closed league in this country that hasn't run into problems when teams have decided their long term future is better elsewhere.
SBAndy
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Short-termist thinking from PRL, as you’ve said there will be a breaking point where fans of Worcester etc think “this is utterly pointless”. But no, owners look at it like an increase in value of the club due to the premium position they hold. Next thing to go will be the salary cap and then all but a couple are fucked.
Why anybody would pay to watch a rugby match now is beyond me now the competition except the top four teams is pretty pointless.
All this does is delay be one year wasps demise. It’s like watching somebody slowly deteriorate until you want the best for them to go peacefully.
I’d have a bet the wasps manager has gone as he knows it’s going to get tougher to attract any talent there as the words got around the rugby world that wasps are a basket case of a club heading for liquidation. He knows they have to pay the bond back next season and that’s why they have no money or the money to pay it back.
Oh good luck Leicester today. Never thought I’d ever say that!
All this does is delay be one year wasps demise. It’s like watching somebody slowly deteriorate until you want the best for them to go peacefully.
I’d have a bet the wasps manager has gone as he knows it’s going to get tougher to attract any talent there as the words got around the rugby world that wasps are a basket case of a club heading for liquidation. He knows they have to pay the bond back next season and that’s why they have no money or the money to pay it back.
Oh good luck Leicester today. Never thought I’d ever say that!
fernandopartridge
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It's basically already there as one way or another you qualify for europe every season
Couldn't agree more
Same with Chiefs quote.
I'm not a big fan of following American models ,think the involvement of CVC and Gallagher Will see the sport as a whole turned into a huge Jamboree rather than a contest.
All bodies seem to be dancing to their tune.Ugh.(vomit)
Liquid Gold
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In what would have been a relegation playoff today they got battered.
fernandopartridge
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Few comments on Facebook from some of their new fans about being sick of them losing all the time. I pointed out that Cov RFC win a lot more on average so they'd be better spending their money there. It isn't as if half of these people know what the difference is between 'top class' (sic) and ordinary rugby
OffenhamSkyBlue
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Like that they lost again, but wouldn't necessarily describe 18-9 as a battering.
Wyken Sky Blue
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If it weren't for Saracens I'm convinced Wasps would've been relegated.
Let's hope Newcastle are strong enough to stay up next season!
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Liquid Gold
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Haha haha fucking classic. I’m going to have a massive party when they go pop.
Terry Gibson's perm
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They WILL go down next season. That’s not simply hatred for the bastards it’s simply due to the fact they are absolutely broke and staying alive simply down to a owner who is reckless with his money and payments thrown at them from the saracans fine and the money given to them by the rugby league ownership change last year.
I’ve said before this would end in tears for them. The Coventry public hasn’t taken to them like wasps said they would and expected and with results awful and gates going down and paying customers going down it end in tears.
A wasps supporter summed it up late last year when she told me it is a simply awful experience watching them lose every week and the atmosphere is shite. I couldn’t be happier.
Terry Gibson's perm
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It really isn’t what these shallow idiots that follow them thought they were getting, they expected wins, trophy’s and razzmatazz.
Nick
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That's the best bit about it for the shallow bandwagon fans.
For the lifelong genuine fans I feel sorry for them.
CanadianCCFC
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If most are from London/London area wouldn’t they be better off long term having a Phoenix club in London so they don’t have to keep coming to Coventry for games?
Liquid Gold
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Work with a lifelong fan who hasn’t been to a game since they moved. They’d reform in London if they went bust and their proper fans would prefer it that way.
From The Times. ......
Dai Young is stood down by Wasps amid tension over signings
Wasps are in a state of disarray following the club’s sudden decision earlier today to relieve Dai Young, the director of rugby, of his first-team duties, nominally for “an interim period”. The former Wales prop, 52, has been in charge at Wasps since 2011, overseeing the club’s move from London to Coventry five years ago, and senior players were understood to be shocked yesterday morning when they were told that Young would not be in charge for the Gallagher Premiership game away to Leicester Tigers on Saturday.
After a meeting of the club’s senior management, the news was broken to the first-team squad at Wasps’ training base that Young was stepping back from his role and that Lee Blackett, the attack coach, would be taking charge of the team this weekend. Young has not been dismissed from his position and the announcement to players was understood to be heavily loaded with legal terminology.
The director of rugby’s contract with the club runs until 2023 and paying off such a lengthy deal would be problematic for a club with considerable debts. Having finished eighth in the league last season, Wasps lie ninth in the Premiership table at present, suffering six defeats in their first nine matches.
A club statement said: “Director of rugby Dai Young will be stepping back from first-team duties for an interim period. Lee Blackett will step up to interim head coach. Further announcements will be made in due course.”
It is understood that tensions have been growing between Young and the club’s owners over the amount of money available for players next season. After the recent departures of a raft of internationals, including Elliot Daly, Nathan Hughes, Willie le Roux and Danny Cipriani, Wasps have been spending below the £7 million salary cap this season and Young had been finding it increasingly difficult to attract new signings.
The club’s ongoing struggle to secure a permanent training base has been another source of frustration, having camped in temporary accommodation at Broadstreet RFC since the move to Coventry in 2014, with the latest plan to move to a site in Henley-in-Arden in time for the start of next season.
Young joined Wasps from Cardiff Blues in 2011 and, three years later, with the club on the brink of going bust, he oversaw the move to the Ricoh Arena under the ownership of Derek Richardson, who had taken control a year earlier.
A period of success followed the move, with three consecutive top-four finishes from 2016-18 and a near miss in the 2017 Premiership final, when they were agonisingly beaten in extra time by Exeter Chiefs at Twickenham.
Last season saw them tumble out of the top four and there has been little sign of progress this season. Now Young’s future at the club is shrouded in uncertainty, with no indication of just how long his “interim” period away from the helm is likely to last.
Dai Young is stood down by Wasps amid tension over signings
Wasps are in a state of disarray following the club’s sudden decision earlier today to relieve Dai Young, the director of rugby, of his first-team duties, nominally for “an interim period”. The former Wales prop, 52, has been in charge at Wasps since 2011, overseeing the club’s move from London to Coventry five years ago, and senior players were understood to be shocked yesterday morning when they were told that Young would not be in charge for the Gallagher Premiership game away to Leicester Tigers on Saturday.
After a meeting of the club’s senior management, the news was broken to the first-team squad at Wasps’ training base that Young was stepping back from his role and that Lee Blackett, the attack coach, would be taking charge of the team this weekend. Young has not been dismissed from his position and the announcement to players was understood to be heavily loaded with legal terminology.
The director of rugby’s contract with the club runs until 2023 and paying off such a lengthy deal would be problematic for a club with considerable debts. Having finished eighth in the league last season, Wasps lie ninth in the Premiership table at present, suffering six defeats in their first nine matches.
A club statement said: “Director of rugby Dai Young will be stepping back from first-team duties for an interim period. Lee Blackett will step up to interim head coach. Further announcements will be made in due course.”
It is understood that tensions have been growing between Young and the club’s owners over the amount of money available for players next season. After the recent departures of a raft of internationals, including Elliot Daly, Nathan Hughes, Willie le Roux and Danny Cipriani, Wasps have been spending below the £7 million salary cap this season and Young had been finding it increasingly difficult to attract new signings.
The club’s ongoing struggle to secure a permanent training base has been another source of frustration, having camped in temporary accommodation at Broadstreet RFC since the move to Coventry in 2014, with the latest plan to move to a site in Henley-in-Arden in time for the start of next season.
Young joined Wasps from Cardiff Blues in 2011 and, three years later, with the club on the brink of going bust, he oversaw the move to the Ricoh Arena under the ownership of Derek Richardson, who had taken control a year earlier.
A period of success followed the move, with three consecutive top-four finishes from 2016-18 and a near miss in the 2017 Premiership final, when they were agonisingly beaten in extra time by Exeter Chiefs at Twickenham.
Last season saw them tumble out of the top four and there has been little sign of progress this season. Now Young’s future at the club is shrouded in uncertainty, with no indication of just how long his “interim” period away from the helm is likely to last.