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shmmeee

shmmeee

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skyblueeyesrevisited said:
Around 1 million die every year from TB. But that doesn’t get on the front pages of the tabloids. The press are causing mayhem. World economy will suffer but hey the editors will have great headlines. So that’s OK
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Because we have a vaccine for it and it’s not an issue in developed nations?

This article has some good numbers on why it’s an issue: How Bad Is the Coronavirus? Let’s Run the Numbers

In short it’s more contagious and more deadly than flu. A seasonal flu style outbreak in the States would kill way more:

The 61,099 flu-related deaths in the U.S. during the severe flu season of 2017-2018 amounted to 0.14% of the estimated 44.8 million cases of influenza-like illness. There were also an estimated flu-related 808,129 hospitalizations, for a rate of 1.8%. Assume a Covid-19 outbreak of similar size in the U.S., multiply the death and hospitalization estimates by five or 10, and you get some really scary numbers: 300,000 to 600,000 deaths, and 4 million to 8 million hospitalizations in a country that has 924,107 staffed hospital beds. Multiply by 40 and, well, forget about it. Also, death rates would go higher if the hospital system is overwhelmed, as happened in the Chinese province of Hubei where Covid-19’s spread began and seems to be happening in Iran now. That’s one reason that slowing the spread is important even if it turns out the disease can’t be stopped.
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World governmental and health organisations aren’t in collusion with newspaper editors to sell papers, this is a legitimate issue. Though largely the question is how much collateral damage do we take (remember a full to bursting NHS isn’t going to keep running smoothly for all the other diseases) or how much economic damage to slow the spread?

(the “multiply by 5 or 10 [or] 40” bit is the different between the low estimates and the high)
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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shmmeee said:
Because we have a vaccine for it and it’s not an issue in developed nations?

This article has some good numbers on why it’s an issue: How Bad Is the Coronavirus? Let’s Run the Numbers

In short it’s more contagious and more deadly than flu. A seasonal flu style outbreak in the States would kill way more:



World governmental and health organisations aren’t in collusion with newspaper editors to sell papers, this is a legitimate issue. Though largely the question is how much collateral damage do we take (remember a full to bursting NHS isn’t going to keep running smoothly for all the other diseases) or how much economic damage to slow the spread?

(the “multiply by 5 or 10 [or] 40” bit is the different between the low estimates and the high)
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No one knows how deadly it is yet. The mortality rate is changing daily. Shite like this is unhelpful
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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shmmeee said:
Because we have a vaccine for it and it’s not an issue in developed nations?

This article has some good numbers on why it’s an issue: How Bad Is the Coronavirus? Let’s Run the Numbers

In short it’s more contagious and more deadly than flu. A seasonal flu style outbreak in the States would kill way more:

Also the bloke has his basic facts wrong, the mortality rate in iran is dropping. It's at around 3% from around 10%

The constant stories about death rates are just starting people who don't need to be scared. Listen to PHE and wash your hands and you'll probably never even know anyone who caught it

World governmental and health organisations aren’t in collusion with newspaper editors to sell papers, this is a legitimate issue. Though largely the question is how much collateral damage do we take (remember a full to bursting NHS isn’t going to keep running smoothly for all the other diseases) or how much economic damage to slow the spread?

(the “multiply by 5 or 10 [or] 40” bit is the different between the low estimates and the high)
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BornSlippySkyBlue

BornSlippySkyBlue

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There’s lots of unhelpful stuff going around about this from lots of sources. Someone told me today that if you drank water every 15 minutes you wouldn’t catch it. I politely told them I suspected that might not actually be true, and then saw it was a viral thing (sorry) spread largely on Facebook...

In reality none of us, not even the experts, know how bad it will be but we all have to live with the reality of the fallout, such as panic buying and price gouging and the Tory government sneaking in new draconian powers to suppress our freedom forever more ;)

And more importantly it might affect our season of seasons in some shitty way, even if that is ‘only’ behind closed doors matches.

But it seems valid to take some sensible action to me, such as basic (but enhanced!) personal hygiene, keeping a few tins of soup in the cupboard and panic buying a shipping container load of bog roll for some fucking reason. (Apparently the beeb ran a story about bog roll being made in China?).

Who knows how bad it will be, life goes on. Can’t stop everything can we, so sensible precautions and hope for 3 points on Saturday.
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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    • Four Danish footballers in quarantine
  • Danish side Brondby have quarantined 13 people, including a player and their assistant coach, after retired former Denmark international Thomas Kahlenberg was diagnosed with coronavirus.

    Brondby director of communications Christian Schultz says Kahlenberg contracted the virus in Amsterdam last weekend and was at Brondby's game against Lyngby on Sunday as a spectator.

    Defender Joel Kabongo, 21, is in quarantine alongside assistant coach Martin Retov, while Lyngby also have three players in isolation.

    Schultz told BBC Radio 5 Live that Kabongo met Kahlenberg after the game because they were former team-mates and they "shook hands".
 
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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skyblueeyesrevisited said:
Around 1 million die every year from TB. But that doesn’t get on the front pages of the tabloids. The press are causing mayhem. World economy will suffer but hey the editors will have great headlines. So that’s OK
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Yes that is true but the Coronavirus,Covid-19 is a new virus and has NO vaccine yet, so it's best to be safe than sorry.
 
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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skyblueeyesrevisited said:
twenty years ago the world was doomed with Y2K again sod all happened
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Something did happen, this guy.

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torchomatic

torchomatic

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I walked up town in Leamington at Lunch and I saw a couple and they both had armfuls of packets of toilet rolls. Madness.
 
torchomatic

torchomatic

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letsallsingtogether

letsallsingtogether

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Here we go First case in Cov.
Cases in Belgium doubled over night to over 100.
 
Tommo1993

Tommo1993

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It’ll turn out like The Walking Dead, we’re all actually infected so it doesn’t even matter, life goes on.
 
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