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Grendel

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Bit of a trap because anyone would be mad to rule it out. If we leave and everything goes to shit and an overwhelming percentage of people want to rejoin should he just keep refusing? Of course that level of detail doesn't come over and he ends up looking a bit ridiculous.

Not as much as the papers at the weekend who had headlines declaring nearly half the country wants to rejoin which when you then read the article was the results of a poll showing 46% rejoin against 54% leave!

He’s lost the next general election if he doesn’t drop that idea
 

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Bit of a trap because anyone would be mad to rule it out.
Yup, it's not that long since we had an outward looking, pro-Europe government, and there are a fair few years until the next election... probably. Conditions then will dictate policy.

@clint van damme Starmer's 'manifesto' is surprisingly left-leaning, really!
 

shmmeee

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Bit of a trap because anyone would be mad to rule it out. If we leave and everything goes to shit and an overwhelming percentage of people want to rejoin should he just keep refusing? Of course that level of detail doesn't come over and he ends up looking a bit ridiculous.

Not as much as the papers at the weekend who had headlines declaring nearly half the country wants to rejoin which when you then read the article was the results of a poll showing 46% rejoin against 54% leave!

It is a trap, but when your campaign rests on your ability to avoid such traps falling into one isn’t a great look.
 

clint van damme

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Yup, it's not that long since we had an outward looking, pro-Europe government, and there are a fair few years until the next election... probably. Conditions then will dictate policy.

@clint van damme Starmer's 'manifesto' is surprisingly left-leaning, really!

it is, and I said it needed someone to reach to both wings of the party making him ideal. But his stance on the EU won't get him/Labour anywhere. Also a bit dodgy that he won't reveal all of his backers when all the other candidates have.
 

Grendel

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Yup, it's not that long since we had an outward looking, pro-Europe government, and there are a fair few years until the next election... probably. Conditions then will dictate policy.

@clint van damme Starmer's 'manifesto' is surprisingly left-leaning, really!

It would again become the talking but at the next election - stupid strategy
 

Grendel

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No it wouldn't as he's not said he's going to campaign to rejoin the EU.

He hasn’t ruled it out

I don’t believe labours hand wringing excuse that the brexit policy was mainly to blame for their failure but if we acknowledge that view it’s Mr Starmers strategy and it was a mess. Creating more ambiguity now isn’t a very clever idea and will be latched on
 
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It would again become the talking but at the next election - stupid strategy
Only if he says he'll be campaigning for it. And he'll only be campaigning for it if the mood of the country is for it.
 

Grendel

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Only if he says he'll be campaigning for it. And he'll only be campaigning for it if the mood of the country is for it.

The mood of the country I thought was for a second referendum at the last election - he doesn’t seem very good at picking up moods does he?
 

Grendel

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Errrr because they would then have no leader?

I think the process actually takes this long anyway - bizarre and pointless but it is the case I think
 
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Errrr because they would then have no leader?
Look you feeble flaccid sausage of brainlessness, he has already resigned, and they're electing the new leader.

It's not actually a difficult concept to grasp for my cat, so why you're incapable...
 

SkyBlueDom26

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Look you feeble flaccid sausage of brainlessness, he has already resigned, and they're electing the new leader.

It's not actually a difficult concept to grasp for my cat, so why you're incapable...
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clint van damme

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Blame Corbyn for not doing the right thing and resigning

the selection process is what it is, Corbyn resigning on the spot wouldn't have speeded it up, as in leaving his post as he did resign, their would have been a temporary leader while the process was completed.

Is the selection process too long winded, probably.
 

Grendel

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Either way do you think Corbyn should of resigned? Surely he must be embarrassed at the PMQ's

His clinging on for a few more months was pathetic
 

shmmeee

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I think the process actually takes this long anyway - bizarre and pointless but it is the case I think

It’s been extended by the Corbynites to add in the affiliates stage I believe as they thought that’d give their candidates more chance. So in a way, you can blame Corbyn.
 

shmmeee

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the selection process is what it is, Corbyn resigning on the spot wouldn't have speeded it up, as in leaving his post as he did resign, their would have been a temporary leader while the process was completed.

Is the selection process too long winded, probably.

He should’ve resigned. Having him up there at PMQs and hanging around the debate is cringeworthy.
 

shmmeee

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Are you a Corbynite?

Nope. Voted Nandy this election and Smith the last one. Voted Corbyn in 2015 because the others were terrible and I felt the country wanted radical change but post Brexit was clear he was a bad choice and they’d got the radical change from Brexit so that vote was gone.
 

David O'Day

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He should’ve resigned. Having him up there at PMQs and hanging around the debate is cringeworthy.
Who would lead the party. There isn't a deputy leader at the moment to do it.

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clint van damme

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Nope. Voted Nandy this election and Smith the last one. Voted Corbyn in 2015 because the others were terrible and I felt the country wanted radical change but post Brexit was clear he was a bad choice and they’d got the radical change from Brexit so that vote was gone.

Nandy blew it with me in her Andrew Neil interview. She'd been doing well up until then.
 

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