Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (147 Viewers)

[Deleted member 4439]

If we look at the positives, Jobello may be available when we play Shrewsbury.

and MR wont be manager of the month.

 

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[Ring Of Steel]

Where to start with that. Takes the armchair science punditry on here to a different level. Where was that published, the Beano?

Anyone who thinks that Boris, or anyone in an elected position, is driving this position is delusional.

The policy may be right, it may not be, but if it isn't you have to question the scientific advice.

You are seriously living in fucking dreamland if you think that- people like Cummings (a man who has written articles calling for social darwinism), and Johnson (who hired someone who saw children dying as "acceptable" if it meant being able to test a new drug) are driving this, and it encapsulates their approach to life in general. They are about eugenics, "science", stone cold darwinism and thats why they are taking this 'scientific' approach as opposed to a medical approach.

If it isn't right then you question the choice of selecting the scientific approach in the first place as opposed to a medical approach, and thats down to the people in charge.

 

[lordsummerisle]

Where to start with that. Takes the armchair science punditry on here to a different level. Where was that published, the Beano?

Anyone who thinks that Boris, or anyone in an elected position, is driving this position is delusional.

The policy may be right, it may not be, but if it isn't you have to question the scientific advice.

The Guardian, but despite it's myriad faults, less comic like than most.

 

[lordsummerisle]

anyway moving along now that football matches have been postponed till April what about rugby? What with conferences etc being cancelled any disruption to rugby games will really affect wasps

Wasps been playing behind closed doors all season from looks of things anyway.

 

[Kieranp96]

Sad, pissed off but was bound to happen sooner rather than later, if this season becomes void albeit very unlikely I will probably be done with football for a while , health is more important though especially for people like my grandparents and others over 70.

 

[Kieranp96]

Wasps been playing behind closed doors all season from looks of things anyway.

Read they lost 5 million in 6 months

 

[David O'Day]

As previous, look at all of the contradictory viewpoints, also from respected scientists. This, “you’re not an expert so shouldn’t comment” is a patently farcical argument when there are so many other theories from equally respected scientists, on offer.

Of course, if you’re coming at it from a position of thinking that it’s either trivial, and/or are a bit upset that we’re going to miss some footy, then obviously you’ll accept the outlier position put forward by this government without further analysis.

That’s entirely your choice, but don’t kid yourself that there’s only one rational science-based position to take here, because that’s simply not true.

No it was the argument put asking what someones qualifications were to disagree with another public health doctor.



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[David O'Day]

Where to start with that. Takes the armchair science punditry on here to a different level. Where was that published, the Beano?

Anyone who thinks that Boris, or anyone in an elected position, is driving this position is delusional.

The policy may be right, it may not be, but if it isn't you have to question the scientific advice.

It is laughable

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[Sky Blue Pete]

Sad, pissed off but was bound to happen sooner rather than later, if this season becomes void albeit very unlikely I will probably be done with football for a while , health is more important though especially for people like my grandparents and others over 70.

Do you think they’ll never die? I’ve been reflecting and think I’d be sad if my mum died but she’s 79 and the reality is that she will die of something. Are we expecting too much? I don’t know

 

[fellatio_Martinez]

Uht though lasts forever

UHT milk lasts for six to nine months.

 

[theferret]

You are seriously living in fucking dreamland if you think that- people like Cummings (a man who has written articles calling for social darwinism), and Johnson (who hired someone who saw children dying as "acceptable" if it meant being able to test a new drug) are driving this, and it encapsulates their approach to life in general. They are about eugenics, "science", stone cold darwinism and thats why they are taking this 'scientific' approach as opposed to a medical approach.

If it isn't right then you question the choice of selecting the scientific approach in the first place as opposed to a medical approach, and thats down to the people in charge.

Possibly to most paranoid and delusional post I have ever read on here - deserves it own youtube channel with a Planet X graphic. It was only a matter of time before jokers started trying to politicise this. If there was any shred of truth in the notion that they are somehow deliberately trying to 'sacrifice' a section of society and are planning on allowing the weak and old to die then it would be, at the very least, political suicide; when the alternative, if we subscribe to the other scientific argument, is to close a few football grounds.

The CMO looked completely at ease and comfortable when he was given the platform yesterday. If you want to suggest coercion or that string-pulling from your pet baddie is behind all this, then go ahead, but I'll call it what it is, absolute fucking bollocks with a cherry on top.

 

[David O'Day]

UHT milk lasts for six to nine months.

Right you realise that wasn't 1 percent serious but okay uht milk lasts for 6 to 9 months and tastes like it

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[Maverick]

Petitions for lockdown and school closures are skyrocketing. 100k votes and it will be debated in parliament, already at 450k and rising

 

[David O'Day]

Petitions for lockdown and school closures are skyrocketing. 100k votes and it will be debated in parliament, already at 450k and rising

I'll get debated and they point out the very good reasons not to once again.

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[Deleted member 4439]

If there was any shred of truth in the notion that they are somehow deliberately trying to 'sacrifice' a section of society and are planning on allowing the weak and old to die then it would be, at the very least, political suicide; when the alternative, if we subscribe to the other scientific argument, is to close a few football grounds.

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I do agree though I could share with you something on Cummings when he was at my place at the Department of Education and which would suggest that the man is simply reckless, and that once he gets fixated on an idea then all side issues such as citizens privacy and confidentiality go out of the window. Add in the fact that the guy is an absolute shitster then you have some idea of how dangerous he is. Everything wrong and bad about him that you may have read is true.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Possibly to most paranoid and delusional post I have ever read on here - deserves it own youtube channel with a Planet X graphic. It was only a matter of time before jokers started trying to politicise this. If there was any shred of truth in the notion that they are somehow deliberately trying to 'sacrifice' a section of society and are planning on allowing the weak and old to die then it would be, at the very least, political suicide; when the alternative, if we subscribe to the other scientific argument, is to close a few football grounds.

The CMO looked completely at ease and comfortable when he was given the platform yesterday. If you want to suggest coercion or that string-pulling from your pet baddie is behind all this, then go ahead, but I'll call it what it is, absolute fucking bollocks with a cherry on top.

You need to calm down. It is what it is, and the people (yes, they are politicians despite your best protestations otherwise) making the decision to go down the route of science as opposed to medicine are firmly rooted in eugenics & darwinism. You can squeal as much as you like, that is the bottom line, it is unarguable. You clearly have google as you're able to reproduce & fawn over every word that is said by the 'experts', perhaps try broadening your outlook and also google the views & philosophies of the people who chose to take this approach, it will all make sense to you then.

 

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[Kieranp96]

Do you think they’ll never die? I’ve been reflecting and think I’d be sad if my mum died but she’s 79 and the reality is that she will die of something. Are we expecting too much? I don’t know

My mother has already passed, and my grandparents are the healthiest people I've met, grandad can run circles around me , but yes I wouldn't be happy to hear they are positive for the virus so I've distanced myself from them for the mean time but they are devastated as they enjoy the footy it's there escape from Saturdays.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I do agree though I could share with you something on Cummings when he was at my place at the Department of Education and which would suggest that the man is simply reckless, and that once he gets fixated on an idea then all side issues such as citizens privacy and confidentiality go out of the window. Add in the fact that the guy is an absolute shitster then you have some idea of how dangerous he is.

I also agree that nobody is saying they are trying to kill people. The fundamental values and approach by "ultra darwinist" Cummings is the dangerous element.

 

[Kieranp96]

Petitions for lockdown and school closures are skyrocketing. 100k votes and it will be debated in parliament, already at 450k and rising

Goes against what the government want to do, government want people infected so there is immunity among most people.

 

[fellatio_Martinez]

Right you realise that wasn't 1 percent serious but okay uht milk lasts for 6 to 9 months and tastes like it

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Alright. I think you're milking this joke a bit now.

 

[BornSlippySkyBlue]

I do agree though I could share with you something on Cummings when he was at my place at the Department of Education and which would suggest that the man is simply reckless, and that once he gets fixated on an idea then all side issues such as citizens privacy and confidentiality go out of the window. Add in the fact that the guy is an absolute shitster then you have some idea of how dangerous he is. Everything wrong and bad about him that you may have read is true.

I find it interesting that given the sheer number of lies that this government have been shown to have told over the last few years people are believing everything they are saying about this.

 

[Kieranp96]

Do you think they’ll never die? I’ve been reflecting and think I’d be sad if my mum died but she’s 79 and the reality is that she will die of something. Are we expecting too much? I don’t know

If they go that's life, but they are a hethy as they get for there age they have atleast 10/15 years in them and my family are known for long life unless something happens most my great grandparents died at 97-105

 

[theferret]

I do agree though I could share something with you about Cummings when he was at my place at the Department of Education that would suggest that the man is simply reckless, and that once he gets fixated on an idea then all side issues such as citizens privacy and confidentiality go out of the window. Add in the fact that the guy is an absolute shitster then you have some idea of how dangerous he is.

No matter what your view of him, the idea that they are somehow sitting in a hollowed-out volcano working out a strategy to use this virus as a tool to somehow kill off a sizeable number of the very people who put them into power - pulling along with them eminent scientists and doctors, well, it doesn't deserve a response. We're not living in a Bond movie. At that Cobra meeting yesterday, the mood would have been sombre and serious and the aim to devise a strategy to minimise the spread and associated deaths. If it wasn't, Sturgeon would have been shouting her dissent from the rooftop. It's a batshit theory. You can argue they've got the strategy wrong, but it won't be because they're all feeling a bit homicidal.

 

[David O'Day]

Alright. I think you're milking this joke a bit now.

I'll moo-ve on then

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[Ring Of Steel]

No matter what your view of him, the idea that they are somehow sitting in a hollowed-out volcano working out a strategy to use this virus as a tool to somehow kill off a sizeable number of the very people who put them into power - pulling along with them eminent scientists and doctors, well, it doesn't deserve a response. We're not living in a Bond movie. At that Cobra meeting yesterday, the mood would have been sombre and serious and the aim to devise a strategy to minimise the spread and associated deaths. If it wasn't, Sturgeon would have been shouting her dissent from the rooftop. It's a batshit theory. You can argue they've got the strategy wrong, but it won't be because they're all feeling a bit homicidal.

You are gloriously missing the point. Deliberately I suspect.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

My mother has already passed, and my grandparents are the healthiest people I've met, grandad can run circles around me , but yes I wouldn't be happy to hear they are positive for the virus so I've distanced myself from them for the mean time but they are devastated as they enjoy the footy it's there escape from Saturdays.

Yeah I agree. Thanks for not biting my head off for thinking out loud

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I find it interesting that given the sheer number of lies that this government have been shown to have told over the last few years people are believing everything they are saying about this.

Its like they've suddenly turned into a lovely group of latter day Mother Teresas.

 

[Kieranp96]

Yeah I agree. Thanks for not biting my head off for thinking out loud

I misread it initially, but I'm Christian, and if it's there time then it is what it is unfortunately but I think they would recover with ease as again they are fit as a fiddle.

 

[ccfc92]

Alright. I think you're milking this joke a bit now.

Turned a bit cheesy.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I find it interesting that given the sheer number of lies that this government have been shown to have told over the last few years people are believing everything they are saying about this.

It’s not the government

 

[Deleted member 4439]

The most emotionally intelligent post of the day. Brilliant.

 

[ccfc92]

The most emotionally intelligent post of the day. Brilliant.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

It’s not the government

lol- who is it then?

 

[theferret]

You need to calm down. It is what it is, and the people (yes, they are politicians despite your best protestations otherwise) making the decision to go down the route of science as opposed to medicine are firmly rooted in eugenics & darwinism. You can squeal as much as you like, that is the bottom line, it is unarguable. You clearly have google as you're able to reproduce & fawn over every word that is said by the 'experts', perhaps try broadening your outlook and also google the views & philosophies of the people who chose to take this approach, it will all make sense to you then.

Googled what? What words have I fawned over exactly, other than to repeat the general thrust of their position which has been widely reported. Did you watch the press conference yesterday? I get their position, but as I have said repeatedly on this thread, I have no idea if it is the right call, and neither do you.
The issue I have is with the conspiratorial nonsense and with the suggestion that Cummings is the master puppeteer in all of this. I don't buy it for one second, but if you do, well fine, we'll leave it at that.