Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (258 Viewers)

pipkin73

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It’s actually shite, they’ve resorted to playing the Italian anthem along with various Italian landmarks on TV to keep spirits up, it’s surreal.
How you dealing with it, what you doing to pass the time? need some tips, think i will be jumping off the balcony before 15 days of this shit.
 

AStonesThrow

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Fed up with watching tv already as been doing that the last couple of days.
Too much pornhub and my arms will be like Arnies after 15 days, pornhub it is then.
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skybluesam66

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not sure if been posted yet, but all of the online press are saying over 70s are going to have to Self isolate for 4 Months - even if not ill within the next 10 days. If that is so, this just got a lot more serious
 

Ring Of Steel

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every online paper reporting it

I think people on here need to be a bit careful immediately denying things like that when it’s true. You’ve got the WHO criticising our approach, U turns being made, more and more qualified people pointing out the problems with what we were trying to do- now they’re ramping things up & telling people at risk to stay inside but someone rocks up saying it’s not true. Nobody really knows all the facts obviously but that’s just a stupid thing to do.
 
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pipkin73

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Quarantine just been brought forward, we are now in quarantine as from midnight just gone. Sat in a bar having a drink. Only 16 cases on the island so everyone ignoring it for tonight. Tomorrow AHHH!!!!
 

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Brighton Sky Blue

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I think people on here need to be a bit careful immediately denying things like that when it’s true. You’ve got the WHO criticising our approach, U turns being made, more and more qualified people pointing out the problems with what we were trying to do- now they’re ramping things up & telling people at risk to stay inside but someone rocks up saying it’s not true. Nobody really knows all the facts obviously but that’s just a stupid thing to do.

The WHO have said that it's difficult to model a population's immune response to a novel virus-fair enough. The statistics show that those over 70 and with poor cardiovascular health are at the highest risk. The attempt to spread the curve over a longer timeframe so that medical provision isn't overwhelmed appears to be pragmatic, not in denial. For once it would seem that we have all 4 parts of the UK keeping their heads screwed on about the strategy to follow.
 

wingy

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The WHO have said that it's difficult to model a population's immune response to a novel virus-fair enough. The statistics show that those over 70 and with poor cardiovascular health are at the highest risk. The attempt to spread the curve over a longer timeframe so that medical provision isn't overwhelmed appears to be pragmatic, not in denial. For once it would seem that we have all 4 parts of the UK keeping their heads screwed on about the strategy to follow.
Schools in NI to close for sixteen weeks .
Not at that point yet
 

Ring Of Steel

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The WHO have said that it's difficult to model a population's immune response to a novel virus-fair enough. The statistics show that those over 70 and with poor cardiovascular health are at the highest risk. The attempt to spread the curve over a longer timeframe so that medical provision isn't overwhelmed appears to be pragmatic, not in denial. For once it would seem that we have all 4 parts of the UK keeping their heads screwed on about the strategy to follow.

I see, so that’s why Matt Hancock is now denying that herd immunity was ever part of the strategy.

And the WHO have said that you have to tackle the problem fast, you need speed. You cannot wait. That’s from Michael Ryan, you might want to google him and learn something.

There is nothing pragmatic going on, it’s a clusterfuck from the “experts”, huge backtracking within 24 hours, they haven’t got a clue what they’re trying to do and even if they did they haven’t got the balls to stick with it.
 

wingy

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The WHO have said that it's difficult to model a population's immune response to a novel virus-fair enough. The statistics show that those over 70 and with poor cardiovascular health are at the highest risk. The attempt to spread the curve over a longer timeframe so that medical provision isn't overwhelmed appears to be pragmatic, not in denial. For once it would seem that we have all 4 parts of the UK keeping their heads screwed on about the strategy to follow.
As one modeller put it on Newsnight the other night .
Ideally he would coral all the elderly,at risk, In one corner of the country and let the rest get on with it.
 

Brylowes

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The WHO have said that it's difficult to model a population's immune response to a novel virus-fair enough. The statistics show that those over 70 and with poor cardiovascular health are at the highest risk. The attempt to spread the curve over a longer timeframe so that medical provision isn't overwhelmed appears to be pragmatic, not in denial. For once it would seem that we have all 4 parts of the UK keeping their heads screwed on about the strategy to follow.
Hopefully they won’t get fooled again.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I see, so that’s why Matt Hancock is now denying that herd immunity was ever part of the strategy.

And the WHO have said that you have to tackle the problem fast, you need speed. You cannot wait. That’s from Michael Ryan, you might want to google him and learn something.

There is nothing pragmatic going on, it’s a clusterfuck from the “experts”, huge backtracking within 24 hours, they haven’t got a clue what they’re trying to do and even if they did they haven’t got the balls to stick with it.

The 'expert' leading the advice isn't some random dude off the street. The advice being given to the general public would be remarkably effective if people stuck to it and, again, the numbers show a tiny death rate for those younger than 70. It may well make more sense to socially distance those over 75 or those with pre-existing cardiovascular and respiratory disease while allowing the rest of the population to follow standard protocol in the knowledge that if infected they are nearly certain to recover.

What's squeezing the government is societal pressure.
 

Ring Of Steel

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Hopefully they won’t get fooled again.

Now we have Peston announcing government plans.

France have Macron communicating with the country and telling the people what’s gonna happen, same elsewhere and even fucking Trump is at least talking about it and saying what will happen over there.

What do we get? A complete veil of secrecy, backtracking, and no communication whatsoever apart from “leaks” to a journalist. Even Hancock’s article is behind a paywall.
 

Ring Of Steel

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The 'expert' leading the advice isn't some random dude off the street. The advice being given to the general public would be remarkably effective if people stuck to it and, again, the numbers show a tiny death rate for those younger than 70. It may well make more sense to socially distance those over 75 or those with pre-existing cardiovascular and respiratory disease while allowing the rest of the population to follow standard protocol in the knowledge that if infected they are nearly certain to recover.

What's squeezing the government is societal pressure.

So you’re basically saying the government is weak.
 

wingy

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The 'expert' leading the advice isn't some random dude off the street. The advice being given to the general public would be remarkably effective if people stuck to it and, again, the numbers show a tiny death rate for those younger than 70. It may well make more sense to socially distance those over 75 or those with pre-existing cardiovascular and respiratory disease while allowing the rest of the population to follow standard protocol in the knowledge that if infected they are nearly certain to recover.

What's squeezing the government is societal pressure.
It would be much better If they shared more detailed analysis where the other vulnerable in society lie.
Just who is at specific risk agewise / condition etc per agegroup
 

Ring Of Steel

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I think if the SNP are agreeing with the Tories over the response then perhaps they have a point.

Patrick Vallance, yesterday: “Communities will become immune to it and that's going to be an important part of controlling this longer term. About 60% is the sort of figure you need to get herd immunity"

Matt Hancock, 24 hours later: “we have a plan, based on the expertise of world leading scientists. Herd immunity is not a part of it. That is a scientific concept, not a goal or our strategy”

They either haven’t got a clue what the plan is, or they’re just bullshitting
 

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