I think they’ll be more push back here. Speaking to friends most in big companies already WFH but lots saying they’ve been told they need to be in.
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I think they’ll be more push back here. Speaking to friends most in big companies already WFH but lots saying they’ve been told they need to be in.
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Coronavirus: No 10’s strategy switch may save 250,000 lives — The Times and The Sunday Times
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shmmeee
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Sorry Pete but everyone could see the data and was screaming at them to change course. The idea we wouldn’t be affected like every other country in the world was just ridiculous.
tisza
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We're getting towards a full lockdown here in Hungary. Reduced opening hours, schools closed, self-quaranting, borders closed to all non-citizens etc.
A lot of those that can are working from home.
Supply chain has been struggling on some items for 10-14 days. People abusing the panic buying rules by sending in several people from same household to buy same items.
Irregular supplies of meat, some veg, paper products, household cleaning goods (disinfectants), vitamins and supplements. (these non-food items in particular have largely been absent for 2 weeks). We're told that stocks are available in Hungarian depots and neighbouring country depots but transport can't keep up with the demand.
We're told power stations etc. can manage demand as heating requirements in particular are falling week by week as weather warms up.
But it's blatantly obvious health system won't be able to cope if it gets more "lively". also Hungary is way behind on testing due to lack of facilities
SkyBlueDom26
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Government changed it strategy to save lives and the same people still moaning and bitching, need to have a good look at yourselves
Lets leave it to the experts yeah?
Lets leave it to the experts yeah?
Sorry Nick but it is political. Our government made a catastrophic error of judgement that will cost lives and they should be properly scrutinised for it.
Haha you don't get it do you. You need to have a look at yourself for defending them to the hilt when the rest of the world was telling them they were doing it wrong.
SkyBlueDom26
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Sick Boy
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Yeah it was bizarre and seen as arrogant here.
Just admit your precious Boris got it wrong and we can all move on mate.
Sick Boy
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Most countries are apart from Trump.
BornSlippySkyBlue
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Whoever was in power at the moment would be under the same intense scrutiny though. However you look at it there is a political element to this because it is the politicians making the decisions about how we get through it. And yes, it really is the politicians making the decisions.
It is also a fact that we have the most libertarian government of recent times, when perhaps the polar opposite would have been better?
It’s also a fact that the NHS has been chronically underfunded over the last ten years or more, and now it isn’t fit for this purpose. How can there not be a political angle? It’s a great opportunity to reinforce why having a well-funded, equipped and staffed health system is so important even when we think nothing drastic is happening. If there was a bit more slack in the system it wouldn’t be getting overwhelmed so easily.
Political points everywhere, hard to ignore them.
Exactly. The only people saying 'don't make this political' are the ones who vehemently support this government. Of course you're perfectly entitled to support any party and any government, but you also have to be able to criticise and scrutinise them when needed.
Like you say, it's pretty impossible for this not to become political.
Nick
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Not at all. I couldn't give a shit about conservatives or labour.
People bursting a blood vessel just to point score is over the top.
Just saying the opposite of their opposition party and going with that.
Its probably why people are getting so worked up.
Rest in peace the economy and thousands of small businesses. Won't need long until there are people with pitchforks telling people they can't leave the house.
Well hopefully we will follow France's lead and look after the people AND the economy.
As Macron (pompous oaf according to Grendel) said yesterday 'No business will be allowed to go bankrupt'.
SkyBlueDom26
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BornSlippySkyBlue
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Whoever is responsible for procurement of ventilators in the NHS should be sacked also. Actually tweeting for manufacturers to call a hotline to discuss making them no with all of the pre-production setup and procurement of parts etc. Wonder what the lead-time is for a company to make medical-grade equipment in car-part factories...
fernandopartridge
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The government could have helped the economy by testing and tracking cases but hasn't bothered, the only option left now is social distancing so the economy is knackered.
Yes he said it yesterday.
I don't think he responded when I pointed out the measures Macron announced yesterday to save businesses.
Is it political point scoring or just analysing the situation? It’s not like labour get to have a go next or wouldn’t have listened to the same experts.
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Was going to ask how the U.K. attitude, both governmental and public, is being perceived abroad?
Was talking to a friend in Ireland and he was aghast that we were living our lives as normal over the weekend and don’t seem to comprehend the situation.
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Malaka
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Every single one of them!
Mcbean
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Quality assured ventilators on ebay from China !
BornSlippySkyBlue
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Secondhand?
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
It'll be on frameworks but at an individual trust level. There is no NHS purchasing at genuinely national level apart from pharmaceuticals.
Sounds familiar.
Can you think of another pompous oaf who says a lot of things and delivers the opposite?
It's good but it's not right!
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
There was the same attitude here up until the start of the lockdown, I fully expect the UK to suffer the same fate as here because of it too.
clint van damme
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everything is political, this situation s highly political. Ridiculous to pretend otherwise.
And if the government gets it right, you'll be shouting it from the rooftops, if you say otherwise you're lying.