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tisza

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Rivers to Indy?

they got it all set up for a run at the title apart from a QB.
nice fit.
seen one scenario Rivers to Colts, Cousins to Chargers (if he won't rework contract) and Bridgewater back to Vikings
 

usskyblue

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Rivers just moved to Florida... and rumors are rife that he’ll replace Winston at the Bucs and educate a young QB draft pick.
 

Liquid Gold

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Rivers just moved to Florida... and rumors are rife that he’ll replace Winston at the Bucs and educate a young QB draft pick.
I just don't see the point of him taking a job that's going to keep him middle of the road for a few years. Surely with his career he wants one last shot at a ring?
 

usskyblue

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I just don't see the point of him taking a job that's going to keep him middle of the road for a few years. Surely with his career he wants one last shot at a ring?

I hear you. But without the picks, the Bucs would’ve made the playoffs. This team is (finally) on the up. And by adding an accurate QB that can secure the ball, it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that you could see Tampa in next years Superbowl, in Tampa. And all the while bringing along a draft pick for the future.
 

Liquid Gold

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I hear you. But without the picks, the Bucs would’ve made the playoffs. This team is (finally) on the up. And by adding an accurate QB that can secure the ball, it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that you could see Tampa in next years Superbowl, in Tampa. And all the while bringing along a draft pick for the future.
You can't take away the INTs and not take away some of the 33 passing touchdowns though. It wouldn't be an outrageous move but I still think there are better. Maybe he wants timw away from his army of children too.
 

usskyblue

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You can't take away the INTs and not take away some of the 33 passing touchdowns though. It wouldn't be an outrageous move but I still think there are better. Maybe he wants timw away from his army of children too.

I believe Winston lead the NFL in total passing yards. His problem is decision making under pressure...it always has been, and not seeing any improvement with this issue in 5 years is a problem. Arians isn’t a fan, but he’s not stupid enough to bin Winston without a plan.
 
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Liquid Gold

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I believe Winston lead the NFL in total passing yards. His problem is decision making under pressure...it always has been, and not seeing any improvement with this issue in 5 years is a problem. Arians isn’t a fan, but he’s not stupid enough to bin Winston without a plan.
Yeah Arians knows what he is doing. Players and clubs can’t communicate till mid March though. I can’t see Rivers moving his family to Florida on the hope of getting an offer from Tampa. More likely that’s where they want to settle and as they’re leaving San Diego they may as well go now and have him play wherever for a couple years before retirement.
 

tisza

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I hear you. But without the picks, the Bucs would’ve made the playoffs. This team is (finally) on the up. And by adding an accurate QB that can secure the ball, it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that you could see Tampa in next years Superbowl, in Tampa. And all the while bringing along a draft pick for the future.
great receivers.
Winston has a huge upside if he could eliminate some of the poor decision-making. But 30 picks is extreme.
In his 5th year and he basically doubles the number of picks he had normally thrown. Although protection wasn't great.
Always questions about his attitude and professionalism.
Winston going to be expecting a huge contract.
Problem is when he's bad he's terrible and that's not a QB going to get you through post-season.
That said Rivers had a fairly mediocre season. Chargers seemed to lose a lot of 1 score games (9 of them) and he threw more than a few interceptions himself.

Going to be a merry go round with QBs. Lot of teams need one for different reasons.
Lot to depend on what Brady does and the knock-on effect from there - not so much where he goes but how Pats decide to replace him
 
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Liquid Gold

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great receivers.
Winston has a huge upside if he could eliminate some of the poor decision-making. But 30 picks is extreme.
In his 5th year and he basically doubles the number of picks he had normally thrown. Although protection wasn't great.
Always questions about his attitude and professionalism.
Winston going to be expecting a huge contract.
Problem is when he's bad he's terrible and that's not a QB going to get you through post-season.
That said Rivers had a fairly mediocre season. Chargers seemed to lose a lot of 1 score games (9 of them) and he threw more than a few interceptions himself.

Going to be a merry go round with QBs. Lot of teams need one for different reasons.
Lot to depend on what Brady does and the knock-on effect from there - not so much where he goes but how Pats decide to replace him
If brady moves on then all the quarterbacks are going to be desperate to work with Belicick
 

usskyblue

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great receivers.
Winston has a huge upside if he could eliminate some of the poor decision-making. But 30 picks is extreme.
In his 5th year and he basically doubles the number of picks he had normally thrown. Although protection wasn't great.
Always questions about his attitude and professionalism.
Winston going to be expecting a huge contract.
Problem is when he's bad he's terrible and that's not a QB going to get you through post-season.
That said Rivers had a fairly mediocre season. Chargers seemed to lose a lot of 1 score games (9 of them) and he threw more than a few interceptions himself.

Going to be a merry go round with QBs. Lot of teams need one for different reasons.
Lot to depend on what Brady does and the knock-on effect from there - not so much where he goes but how Pats decide to replace him

Frustratingly...we also have two really good tight ends in OJ Howard and Cameron Brate...but Arians playbook doesn’t utilize that position. I’d be happy to trade Brate but keep Howard and use him as another wide receiver target
 

tisza

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If brady moves on then all the quarterbacks are going to be desperate to work with Belicick
It's interesting.
Pats short on offensive options - receivers & RBs hence the slightly "desperate" moves with Gordon & Brown. 1st rounder RB Michel wasn't a huge success.
What is a Belichick QB now - been with Brady so long who can remember :)
Possible available options. Think he'd like a healthy Newton, maybe Bridgewater.
Maybe best fit if they could get him - Stafford?
 

tisza

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Frustratingly...we also have two really good tight ends in OJ Howard and Cameron Brate...but Arians playbook doesn’t utilize that position. I’d be happy to trade Brate but keep Howard and use him as another wide receiver target
Probably Winston's yardage and picks are so high
 

tisza

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It is a surprise that he apparently has offers by teams looking to go deep next year.
Not sure he's still worth the big contract teams would need to find
Maybe he has to take a one year cheaper deal to rebuild his free agency value. That might attract teams. Vikings could be interested then. Rhodes definitely going. Waynes and mackenzie also could be going for cap reasons.
 
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tisza

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Doesn't look like Greg Robinson going to playing for a while- arrested after being caught with 157lbs of marijuana !!
 

tisza

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Love the attention to detail and stats obsession.
Apparently Burrow's hand size is on the small side ( 9 inch span) and only 3 QBs in last 10 years have done well with hands that small :) In comparison Tua's span is 10 inches which is much more successful amongst QBs :)
 

tisza

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Some NFL teams need quarantining to protect themselves.
Some silly money deals but really Johnson for Hopkins!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

usskyblue

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tisza

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Yep, and what do the Pats do? Draft? FA? Rivers?
Would think FA.
A lot of draft picks but not enough good ones to move up far enough to get Tua or Burrows. Undecided on Herbert - either going to very good or a bust. Not sure he'd fit with Pats way of doing things.
Of the FAs could make a case for a few but probably only short-term.
 

CCFC88

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My NFL knowledge is not up there with some of you guys but I feel like Brady should have just retired. Would have gone out on top. Is there any chance he could really do something next season with any team that picks him up?
He can win if he's dropped into the right situation, Manning won a SB standing on one leg with the Broncos a few years back, he can still manage a game and make throws if he has the right parts around him and a top defence on the other side of the ball
 

tisza

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My NFL knowledge is not up there with some of you guys but I feel like Brady should have just retired. Would have gone out on top. Is there any chance he could really do something next season with any team that picks him up?
He may still retire but there's a huge 2 year deal out there with his name on it if he wants it.
Can he win another Superbowl? Don't think so. He's not going to radically change a losing team but can add a few wins to a season, take a side to the play-offs.
Could be a huge marketing tool for the 2 teams moving into new stadiums - Chargers & Raiders. Both of which have better offensive weapons than last year's Pats.
 

usskyblue

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He may still retire but there's a huge 2 year deal out there with his name on it if he wants it.
Can he win another Superbowl? Don't think so. He's not going to radically change a losing team but can add a few wins to a season, take a side to the play-offs.
Could be a huge marketing tool for the 2 teams moving into new stadiums - Chargers & Raiders. Both of which have better offensive weapons than last year's Pats.

Raiders are signing Mariota

Can’t see the Chargers offering him what he wants which is some team control.

The Bucs are offering $30m a year, roster and play input...plus we have two of the best receivers in the league.
 

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