Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (37 Viewers)

[xcraigx]

Many callers on 5 Live say the insurance won’t pay as the virus is not listed and needs to be to meet terms and conditions

Yep, very few insurance policies will cover anything like this. Some of the biggest companies will have had such clauses written in but most won't. Business interruption tends to be fires, floods and whatnot.

 

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[Sick Boy]

Would be interested to know why you believe insurance companies are telling venues they are not covered for voluntary closure but would be covered for a government imposed closure if they are then, should the government impose that closure, going to turn round and say that isn't covered either.

Take a look at GSMA and MWC, it was cancelled but the GSMA wanted the Spanish government to declare a state of emergency to claim on the insurance, once that was leaked to the press it was the end of that and it was cancelled. Now hundreds of companies could be out of pocket.

 

[BornSlippySkyBlue]

Would be interested to know why you believe insurance companies are telling venues they are not covered for voluntary closure but would be covered for a government imposed closure if they are then, should the government impose that closure, going to turn round and say that isn't covered either.

My wife is quite senior in the pub industry and said exactly that yesterday. They’d be better off if the government advice was to shut all pubs because then insurance would kick in. Who has most influence in government, the insurance or hospitality industry?

 

[Sick Boy]

@Sick Boy With our new measures ramping up and the chief medical inspector saying our cases could start to reduce/slow down in 2-3 weeks, do you think we'll have it as bad as Italy?

It's impossible to say, there has been far more testing going on here compared to the UK by the looks of it so who knows how many cases there actually are in the UK, only time will tell, unfortunately.

 

[chiefdave]

Many callers on 5 Live say the insurance won’t pay as the virus is not listed and needs to be to meet terms and conditions

Can't speak for them but I've spoken to two mates who own venues who have both been told by their insurers that they are covered if its government imposed.

If anyone feels inclined can they sign this petition. I know most of the times petitions do nothing but it will only take a second. More details from the Music Venue Trust:
An Open Letter to Boris Johnson, Prime Minister, United Kingdom

 

[David O'Day]

It's impossible to say, there has been far more testing going on here compared to the UK by the looks of it so who knows how many cases there actually are in the UK, only time will tell, unfortunately.

Yeah we won't be able to tell on official cases but hopefully we won't see the carnage in hospitals that Italy has seen in places like Lombardy

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[Philosoraptor]

Meanwhile, modern art keeps up with the latest trends in Glasgow.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Can't speak for them but I've spoken to two mates who own venues who have both been told by their insurers that they are covered if its government imposed.

If anyone feels inclined can they sign this petition. I know most of the times petitions do nothing but it will only take a second. More details from the Music Venue Trust:
An Open Letter to Boris Johnson, Prime Minister, United Kingdom

If you can’t see what this is all about then you cane down with the last drop of rain. Forcing people to make their own decision not to attend as opposed to having it cancelled on them provides a loophole for insurers. I can see more lawsuits on the horizon because the govt are shutting down but not saying they’re shutting down, creating a huge grey area which clearly suits insurers but not the insured.

 

[Sick Boy]

Yeah we won't be able to tell on official cases but hopefully we won't see the carnage in hospitals that Italy has seen in places like Lombardy

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Let's hope not! As i've said, it wasn't taken seriously here by the general population until 2 weeks ago, let's just hope that there won't be the same outcome there.

 

[PVA]

Yeah we won't be able to tell on official cases but hopefully we won't see the carnage in hospitals that Italy has seen in places like Lombardy

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Hopefully not. We have less ICU beds than Italy so we could be in real trouble if things do get bad.

 

[Tommo1993]

Is it over yet?!

 

[David O'Day]

Hopefully not. We have less ICU beds than Italy so we could be in real trouble if things do get bad.

We are also unlikely to have 80 percent of cases in 1 region either

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[David O'Day]

Let's hope not! As i've said, it wasn't taken seriously here by the general population until 2 weeks ago, let's just hope that there won't be the same outcome there.

We don't see to have the same concentration of cases in 1 area. London is a worry but it's nowhere near lombardy levels.

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[Colin Steins Smile]

My wife is quite senior in the pub industry and said exactly that yesterday. They’d be better off if the government advice was to shut all pubs because then insurance would kick in. Who has most influence in government, the insurance or hospitality industry?

My bet is the government will back the insurers as they’ll have shares in those companies

 

[fernandopartridge]

We are also unlikely to have 80 percent of cases in 1 region either

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59% of the cases in this country are in London and the South East, 44% in London itself. Not quite as bad as Italy.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

I've been reliably informed that the local holiday inn will be commandeered & used for overflow patient care up here.
All NHS staff have been put on a 12 hour emergency standby with doctors being re-directed from all un-related fields of expertise to care for the influx of patients.
both worrying & re-assuring at the same time.
Not sure if they are expecting an additional peak here on Merseyside after the 3000+ Athletico fans partied all around town last week....

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Of course is doesn't help that the Liverpool Royal is fucked & should have been flattened about 5 years ago now....the nice shiny new one is still empty & awaiting further remedial works....thanks a fucking bundle Carrilion....cunts.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Can’t help but feel people really haven’t grasped the seriousness of this. All this talk of “lol I’ll just carry on” when the message from government is very clear that you won’t. The plan is these measures are here until a vaccine is with maybe small breaks if NHS capacity allows. Reminds me of what @Sick Boy was saying the Italians were like two weeks ago.

Absolutely agree

 

[David O'Day]

59% of the cases in this country are in London and the South East, 44% in London itself. Not quite as bad as Italy.

I may have got my figures mixed up, lombardy may have 80 plus percent of the deaths and 90 plus percent of the cases on a Much larger number of cases.

I have already said long is a worry though.

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[Sky Blue Pete]

I see that since the Imperial College study was taken seriously, all mention of ‘herd immunity’ has quietly been dropped. But that study was available 7 weeks ago so essentially we wasted 7 weeks experimenting & messing around on something which could never work. And the BBC are saying “the science has changed”- no it hasn’t, you just ignored the right info and forged ahead with rubbish.

when the dust has settled, that may go down as one of the biggest blunders in decades.

Stop it you’re probably pissing yourself off now being all that!

 

[itsabuzzard]

Is it over yet?!

No but its looking promising were 5 points clear with a game in hand. Apologies for the missing punctuation i think my phones got covid 19.

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[David O'Day]

Stop it you’re probably pissing yourself off now being all that!

He's also talking bollocks

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[Sky Blue Pete]

I have some Taiwanese pen friends.

It's quite amazing how they have been able to tackle Covid-19, despite only being 110 miles from the Chinese border.

Just 67 cases. 1 death.


Fear of China Made Taiwan a Coronavirus Success Story

But what happens if it returns? Do they keep doing the isolation stuff? That may be the answer I suppose

 

[Ring Of Steel]

He's also talking bollocks

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Except he’s not. You were all over here banging on about how they were right for days on end, and you were 100% wrong, and there is nothing that can change that fact. Thankfully sense has been seen.

 

[David O'Day]

Except he’s not. You were all over here banging on about how they were right for days on end, and you were 100% wrong, and there is nothing that can change that fact. Thankfully sense has been seen.

I am still right, I have said measures would be implemented when they think it's the best time. I know you will to be revisionist with your ramblings but let's not lie here.

Also why are why are you referring to yourself in the 3rd person? How many people are you in this thread l?

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[David O'Day]

Ring of bullshit

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[Ring Of Steel]

I am still right, I have said measures would be implemented when they think it's the best time. I know you will to be revisionist with your ramblings but let's not lie here.

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no you didn’t, you said that the herd immunity approach was right. Constantly. Now you’re doing a Matt Hancock and pretending it was never the plan at all and they’re just waiting for the right time.

 

[David O'Day]

no you didn’t, you said that the herd immunity approach was right. Constantly. Now you’re doing a Matt Hancock and pretending it was never the plan at all and they’re just waiting for the right time.

No I did you lying little fuck. You're fucking delusional mate. You need some fucking help.



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[David O'Day]

Now he's on the naughty step let's let the adults talk

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[Ring Of Steel]

No I did you lying little fuck. You're fucking delusional mate. You need some fucking help.



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Yes already I know you did. You were carrying on for ages shouting down anyone who dared to question the ‘experts’, now after all the U turns and climbdowns it turns out it was right to question what they said. And that’s that, get as butt hurt as you like, that’s your problem not mine.

 

[David O'Day]

So while the proven liar has a time out shall we discuss the possible implementation of a universal income, the required amount and it's benefits on aggregate demand

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[Ring Of Steel]

So while the proven liar has a time out shall we discuss the possible implementation of a universal income, the required amount and it's benefits on aggregate demand

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lol, you have it bad don’t you. I understand, you got duped, don’t take it personally, plenty of others did too.

 

[David O'Day]

Is that the proven liar posting? Just says ignored user. I do hope he gets the help.he so sorely needs.

Now if we gave everyone x amount of money to spend to help increase the aggregate demand in the economy would it work as a short term.boost? If so how how much would be needed? Bare in mind traditional QE is ineffective for this as it doesn't trickle down to the macro economy and must props up balance sheets


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[Ring Of Steel]

What was Boris’ press conference like?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Is that the proven liar posting? Just says ignored user. I do hope he gets the help.he so sorely needs.

Now if we gave everyone x amount of money to spend to help increase the aggregate demand in the economy would it work as a short term.boost? If so how how much would be needed? Bare in mind traditional QE is ineffective for this as it doesn't trickle down to the macro economy and must props up balance sheets


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I imagine this feels a bit like getting blocked by Piers Morgan on Twitter