Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (228 Viewers)

Ring Of Steel

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Just looked for online shopping. All major supermarkets near me, either cant get on or theres no slots for at least 3 weeks.

Will need to go out and do a shop at the weekend I reckon. Safe to do so so long as I keep 2m from everyone, wash my hands with sanitizer as I enter and leave the store??

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I hear you- April 30th here. My wife and I are a bit ‘behind the curve’.

I go out to work each day but it’s very low risk, wife works in a busy pharmacy which is much higher risk, decision was made that she goes shopping for a few weeks to avoid making both of us more vulnerable- don’t like it but it is what it is. She wears those disposable gloves, a scarf, uses sanitiser at regular intervals, watches out for trolley handles and keeps her distance- that’s about all you can do- wouldn’t want to go on record making promises but if you do that I think you’re significantly lowering your risk. Oh- it’s on tv here that when you get in to clean all packages that you’ve bought too as cardboard or plastic is very risky. And select your time- very early is better as less people have been in before you.
 

Liquid Gold

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This just popped up round the corner

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steve cooper

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Have you tried Iceland .
I've got one coming tomorrow.
My daughter set it up but I don't know if she's put me in a vulnerable category or not .
You might find an early to mid evening visit preferable .
Aldi Cannon park only had around 10 in at 5 ish last night .
I know you are Portsmouth way.
I had a delivery from Iceland today, booked on Monday night. A couple of things missing as out of stock since order but all in all it worked well.
 

shmmeee

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Couple of things about this



1) Surely this disproves the “50% have already had it” as we’d see that in the testing?

2) It says not a full 24 hour period, which may explain the unusually low numbers today.
 

Liquid Gold

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Couple of things about this



1) Surely this disproves the “50% have already had it” as we’d see that in the testing?

2) It says not a full 24 hour period, which may explain the unusually low numbers today.

On point 1 it depends what the test is looking for. I imagine that it is just looking for the virus in which case it would give no indication if somebody has had it, recovered and subsequently developed immunity.
 

steve cooper

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Just in case nobody has seen this off the worldmeter site:

1452 new cases and 43 new deaths in the United Kingdom, including a 21-year-old woman and a 47-year-old man with no pre-existing health

Coronavirus Update (Live): 464,683 Cases and 20,942 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer
One of the key indicators is the number of serious/critical cases, as you would expect most others will recover. Obviously there is a timeline influence as some of the current non critical cases will or may turn critical. Looking at this in conjunction with the graph in post 8156, and looking at the critical cases shown on the worldmeter site, as a percentage of total current cases, it appears we are quite low. The graph in post 8156 shows the nearest countries to us are Netherlands, Germany, France, and USA. Netherlands and France in particular have a much bigger figure of critical patients than us as a proportion of total cases.
 

wingy

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If the assumed mortality rate is 1% then
the actual no of cases will be 50k and hospitalised will be 2.5k currently.
 

Astute

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Trigger warning: this is the guy who made the graph

Really interesting thread on why absolute and not per capita numbers used here:



Per capita is the correct and most accurate way to see the effect. Shows how some people try and put their point across.

Let's try and explain.

Population of Switzerland 8.5m
Population of the UK 66.4m

Mortality rate
Switzerland 6 per day
UK 40 per day

Which is the worse? Switzerland has a much lower mortality amount.

Every day 1 person in every 1,416,666 dies in Switzerland.
Every day 1 person in every 1,660,000 dies in the UK.

Doesn't seem much difference. But their death rate would be 1/8 more than ours. So you have a higher chance of not surviving.

Or should we say that our mortality rate is extremely low as we have nowhere near the mortality final count of countries massively larger than the UK?
 

Otis

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We all deal with things in different ways, some people obviously like to try and get as much random data as possible, some look at the positives, some negatives, some like to blame politicians or experts, some make jokes. I apparently just like to come on and condescend SBT members.
So you admit it then!! Hoisted by your own petard.
 

shmmeee

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Per capita is the correct and most accurate way to see the effect. Shows how some people try and put their point across.

Let's try and explain.

Population of Switzerland 8.5m
Population of the UK 66.4m

Mortality rate
Switzerland 6 per day
UK 40 per day

Which is the worse? Switzerland has a much lower mortality amount.

Every day 1 person in every 1,416,666 dies in Switzerland.
Every day 1 person in every 1,660,000 dies in the UK.

Doesn't seem much difference. But their death rate would be 1/8 more than ours. So you have a higher chance of not surviving.

Or should we say that our mortality rate is extremely low as we have nowhere near the mortality final count of countries massively larger than the UK?

You didn’t read the thread did you?
 

djr8369

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Interesting read. Makes me worry that nationalisation and various forms of socialism will be used for the recovery but we'll end up with Putin like characters rising in multiple countries and selling all the new state assets back to themselves and their cronies. Like 2008 somehow this will just see more wealth shift away from the majority to the minority.
 

Astute

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You didn’t read the thread did you?
I don't read too much into the bits that don't make sense. Too much of it. A guess is the gospel to many and others believe every word they see.
 

David O'Day

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I'm confused by the case of the 21 year old. Her family say she died last week but she didn't appear in the NHS England counts from last week. Some websites such as the 1 linked above list her for yesterday but that is likely to be because the news reports are from yesterday.
 

djr8369

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I'm confused by the case of the 21 year old. Her family say she died last week but she didn't appear in the NHS England counts from last week. Some websites such as the 1 linked above list her for yesterday but that is likely to be because the news reports are from yesterday.

It's been reported by the BBC so you would hope they verified it if the locals didn't.
 

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