Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (343 Viewers)

[Warwickhunt]

TIn the video posted by Dingy yesterday with the South Korean doctor he stated that they did.

great ! can you imagine how hard it will be to get face masks? we will have a situation where people going into hospital have them and staff treating them dont!

 

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[Ring Of Steel]

So let’s drop it with the hard left BS then and admit it’s just about who’s mates with the press barons

lol- I never said anything about the hard left, I'm happy to proclaim my ignorance of that.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Boris appealed to some of the Labour vote, who couldnt vote for corbyn
he played the clown, and some of the Labour support liked it

to win an election, you have to win some of the opposition support - Corbyn could never to that, Boris could

Corbyn had flaws but the media hounded him in a way I have never seen before and they did it for years. By Dec 2019 he had no chance

 

[Nick]

It's annoying me about people who are stuck abroad.

Fair enough people who emigrated or have been there long term, dickheads who flew out having half an idea of what was going on can pipe down though.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Miliband?

He's trickier. Cameron was pretty slick (little substance) to be fair. He/Tories played on the ‘give us a chance to govern on our own now we’ve done the dirty work’ (even though he probably didn’t want/expect to)

ps these are just guesses don’t be offended anyone !!!

 

[Ring Of Steel]

The classic Tory response of ‘I’d love to care about people not dying but a left wing person said a mean thing to me so now my entire moral and political viewpoint has shifted completely to the right’ boo fucking hoo

Tories always get very moralistic when they accuse "the left" of swearing and arguing and being rude. Awful goings on.

The Tories themselves of course kill people & put them into poverty on a daily basis, but they just do it in a polite & professional manner.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Blair won because he presented economic competence with Brown alongside him

The press conspiracy looks a bit silly when you consider only 3 years ago Corbyn defied all odds and achieved 40% of the vote

He still lost

 

[TomRad85]

Yeah because I'm influential in regards to a general election

Everyone is. For example if you have other forms of social media and you present yourself in the same manner, you could put many people off voting your way.

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

He's trickier. Cameron was pretty slick (little substance) to be fair. He/Tories played on the ‘give us a chance to govern on our own now we’ve done the dirty work’ (even though he probably didn’t want/expect to)

ps these are just guesses don’t be offended anyone !!!

It’s just I thought we had to not be far left to win and he still didn’t

 

[Grendel]

He still lost

He attracted 40% of the vote -,more than most leaders at elections

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He attracted 40% of the vote -,more than most leaders at elections

Weird that you are now using his result as evidence when before you dismissed it

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Weird that you are now using his result as evidence when before you dismissed it

He lost. End of discussion.

Corbyn was a weird one, he was a cult. In 2017 the support for him in the media & in public was a bit cultish, and in 2019 the disgust & distaste for him was also a bit cultish.

 

[David O'Day]

Everyone is. For example if you have other forms of social media and you present yourself in the same manner, you could put many people off voting your way.

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If you are basing your vote on what a scrote from Willenhall thinks you need help

 

[TomRad85]

If you are basing your vote on what a scrote from Willenhall thinks you need help

I'm not, but other scrotes from Willenhall on your Facebook feed might.

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

If you are basing your vote on what a scrote from Willenhall thinks you need help

I’m in Leamington m8 only buy the essentials from Waitrose bruv

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He lost. End of discussion.

Corbyn was a weird one, he was a cult. In 2017 the support for him in the media & in public was a bit cultish, and in 2019 the disgust & distaste for him was also a bit cultish.

I also have little faith he’d have handled CV any better than the fatso

 

[CCFCSteve]

It’s just I thought we had to not be far left to win and he still didn’t

Yeah, it’s a fair point, but it’s sometimes timing (what’s happening in country/economy etc) and opponents, for example Brown and Milliband probably (almost certainly) beat May. Blair beats Cameron and probably Johnson (in previous years but unsure in 2019 due to Brexit)

 

[David O'Day]

The face mask effectiveness issue is one that genuinely splits doctors a you have to remember correlation does not equal causation

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah, it’s a fair point, but it’s sometimes timing (what’s happening in country/economy etc) and opponents, for example Brown and Milliband probably (almost certainly) beat May. Blair beats Cameron and probably Johnson (in previous years but maybe not in 2019 due to Brexit)

What I’m getting at is that ‘you’ll get destroyed being far left’ is a default argument much like ‘he’s unelectable’ purely because the press have declared him so. Labour wouldn’t have won in 2019 with any of their available MPs because it was held on Johnson’s terms.

They wouldn’t have lost as badly though as even I had a hard time voting for Corbyn and I voted for him twice as leader

 

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[Ring Of Steel]

Yeah, it’s a fair point, but it’s sometimes timing (what’s happening in country/economy etc) and opponents, for example Brown and Milliband probably (almost certainly) beat May. Blair beats Cameron and probably Johnson (in previous years but unsure in 2019 due to Brexit)

I think Blair beats anyone- I never saw support like he had. I'm not political but when he came along it was an unstoppable force. Not getting into talking about policies & all that as I don't know enough about it, but he was the most unbeatable PM certainly of my lifetime.

For all you politics buffs- was that at least partly the 'centrist' effect?

 

[skybluetony176]

Oh look,the tolerant left in action.
Go and kick some war memorials over or something.

You do know that in WW2 when the black shirts were marching on London and Londoners turned on them you would be one of the black shirts and the Londoners who attacked them were the ones who went on to fight the war and who said memorials were raised for?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Socialism for the rich and rugged individualism for the poor

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I think Blair beats anyone- I never saw support like he had. I'm not political but when he came along it was an unstoppable force. Not getting into talking about policies & all that as I don't know enough about it, but he was the most unbeatable PM certainly of my lifetime.

He won even after committing war crimes it’s one hell of an accomplishment

 

[David O'Day]

I'm not, but other scrotes from Willenhall on your Facebook feed might.

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The voting Willenhall scrote demographic isn't as big as you think

 

[Ring Of Steel]

He won even after committing war crimes it’s one hell of an accomplishment

And thats why I think Boris rides out the Coronavirus.

 

[David O'Day]

You do know that in WW2 when the black shirts were marching on London and Londoners turned on them you would be one of the black shirts and the Londoners who attacked them were the ones who went on to fight the war and who said memorials were raised for?

My grandad didn't vote for fascists, he shot em.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

And thats why I think Boris rides out the Coronavirus.

He’ll crack a few jokes about having had it himself, wave a flag and praise the great British effort to beat the virus. If he holds a pint at the same time he might get 600 MPs

 

[Grendel]

Weird that you are now using his result as evidence when before you dismissed it

labour are just rubbish at developing strategy to win an election

 

[Ring Of Steel]

He’ll crack a few jokes about having had it himself, wave a flag and praise the great British effort to beat the virus. If he holds a pint at the same time he might get 600 MPs

I don't really follow it here but from what I can tell nobody actually knows who PM is- Varadkar doing all the briefings (and he's pretty good actually, I have been impressed with his demeanour), but its all very complicated to work out who is actually going to be in charge.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

My grandad didn't vote for fascists, he shot em.

By his own admission mine spent it ‘chasing skirt around Portsmouth docks’ and then ‘fucking about at my controls on the ship’

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

labour are just rubbish at developing strategy to win an election

But yet also got over 40% of the vote make your mind up

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I don't really follow it here but from what I can tell nobody actually knows who PM is- Varadkar doing all the briefings (and he's pretty good actually, I have been impressed with his demeanour), but its all very complicated to work out who is actually going to be in charge.

Is he Taoiseach by default until this is over?

 

[David O'Day]

By his own admission mine spent it ‘chasing skirt around Portsmouth docks’ and then ‘fucking about at my controls on the ship’

Mine as an aircraft mechanic so the stories of him actually shooting fascists maybe over egged some what.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

By his own admission mine spent it ‘chasing skirt around Portsmouth docks’ and then ‘fucking about at my controls on the ship’

Mine spent a while being chased across Burma by the Japanese- incredibly harrowing. I have his medals in the living room. Almost killed him when I showed up at his house in a Mazda