Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (296 Viewers)

[David O'Day]

You do seem obsessed with the daily figures and extrapolating stuff from them. You really can't do so - things could fluctuate quite significantly day to day.. Best thing to do is check them weekly and look for a trend in that data.

Yeah you have to look at trends and if the increase is slowing. Also while death counts are always the headline geavmbbers new cases are just as if not more important

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[Spurs 'City Away Kit' Kit]

it gets worse - Wanking ban

Boss of hire car firm tells employees 'watch Netflix, drink beer & avoid excessive masturbation' after furloughing them

What if you use someone elses hand?

 

[Grendel]

I have actually said nothing of the sort.
Flights were stopped coming in from China to here actually before other countries.

The sovereignty of Parliament is a fundamental principle of the UK constitution. Whilst Parliament has remained sovereign throughout our membership of the EU, it has not always felt like that.

Was this a lie?

I asked about cross border travel in Europe

 

[Grendel]

4585 new cases and 766 new deaths in Italy[source]

Cases down but deaths up by 6... would you say the curve is flattening? @Sick Boy

Another 500 could have died in Italy and not been recorded

 

[CCFCSteve]

Hancocks surely on for a free Burberry scarf and coat after that plug !!!

 

[CCFCSteve]

What if you use someone elses hand?

Depends on who’s hand and whether it’s been properly sanitised

 

[shmmeee]

Just found we might be getting furloughed in the next few weeks

Teachers?

 

[shmmeee]

Yeah you have to look at trends and if the increase is slowing. Also while death counts are always the headline geavmbbers new cases are just as if not more important

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Problem with cases is it relies on severity and testing, deaths have nowhere to hide so should I’m theory be the most reliable measure.

Good numbers today TBH, gives me hope it’s slowing.

 

[Sick Boy]

Another 500 could have died in Italy and not been recorded

Coming from the guy who’s tried to spread far right lies and fake news hahaha

 

[Ring Of Steel]

There’s undoubtedly a lot of noise, that’s why rolling averages are used in most of the graphs.

yes, also when methodologies change the ups or downs then roll into the cumulative numbers, which then form part of the average, so you avoid any spikes even though one day may appear strange when taken in isolation. Someone was on about the France figures yesterday, don’t recall who, and it was pointed out then.

It’s the best method and it’s very good, hence why it’s become the de facto source of info for most people who know how to read it.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Problem with cases is it relies on severity and testing, deaths have nowhere to hide so should I’m theory be the most reliable measure.

Good numbers today TBH, gives me hope it’s slowing.

looking more each day like Italy is at the peak, problem is it’s a fucking big hill

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I know nothing about this but I always thought that the marks were on a curve, so a certain proportion would get certain grades- I know that’s how it works with accountancy/ tax/ treasurers exams?

Problem with that is one year someone could get a lower grade but a higher mark than someone the following year due to a 'poorer' standard. Why I've preferred actual marks to grades etc.

Also give the percentage of high grades had consistently gone up over many years this can't have been the case. If it was proportional the percentage of A's/B's etc would be the same every year

 

[shmmeee]

Problem with that is one year someone could get a lower grade but a higher mark than someone the following year due to a 'poorer' standard. Why I've preferred actual marks to grades etc.

Also give the percentage of high grades had consistently gone up over many years this can't have been the case. If it was proportional the percentage of A's/B's etc would be the same every year

Since the Gove reforms I believe at least in English they do essentially grade on a curve to ensure a similar number each year.

Thing is you do get hard and easy exam papers so some level of normalisation has to take place.

(Not checked thread assume we’re talking GCSEs)

 

[shmmeee]

yes, also when methodologies change the ups or downs then roll into the cumulative numbers, which then form part of the average, so you avoid any spikes even though one day may appear strange when taken in isolation. Someone was on about the France figures yesterday, don’t recall who, and it was pointed out then.

It’s the best method and it’s very good, hence why it’s become the de facto source of info for most people who know how to read it.

It’s almost like the guy who’s entire job is data visualisation knows a thing or two about how best to visualise data.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Teachers?

The wording was kind of ambiguous. I think it's unlikely for now and it will be non-teaching staff first

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

There used to be quite a rivalry when I was at KH8, a few of the 'rugger buggers' would posture and make bold claims about being the 'hardest' while out at the pub on a Friday (the 'old Wheats' was it?), then a bunch of Wiseman or Tile Hill Wood would show up and the rugby guys would go real quiet, real fast.

They were scared of the girls?

 

[shmmeee]

They were scared of the girls?

Id be scared of some of the girls that came out of Tile Hill Wood

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

it gets worse - Wanking ban

Boss of hire car firm tells employees 'watch Netflix, drink beer & avoid excessive masturbation' after furloughing them

What's excessive though? If you end up going back to work with one arm like Popeye?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

They were scared of the girls?

lol, scared of the boys and awestruck at the girls, who were very ‘different’ to what they were used to. All a bit isolated from the real world, they were friends I guess but only cause they’re who I went to school with.

A fair few of them became wasps fans when they pitched up in town, never spoke to them again after that.

 

[wingy]

What's excessive though? If you end up going back to work with one arm like Popeye?

Ask Olive?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

This really didn’t age well

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

lol, scared of the boys and awestruck at the girls, who were very ‘different’ to what they were used to. All a bit isolated from the real world, they were friends I guess but only cause they’re who I went to school with.

A fair few of them became wasps fans when they pitched up in town, never spoke to them again after that.

Tile Hill Wood was all-girls until a few years ago when it merged with Woodlands. Think it got some new name after though.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Genuine mate, the deputy medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam is really clear and to the point with info

Pro Evo Jean Claude Van Damme though init

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Ask Olive?

Would she be Virgin Olive Oyl?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Tile Hill Wood was all-girls until a few years ago when it merged with Woodlands. Think it got some new name after though.

They’re all a bit of a blur to me now to be honest. The one I do remember clearly was Woodlands, they used to terrorise the Henrys boys- late 80s & very early 90s this would have been.

 

[Grendel]

Coming from the guy who’s tried to spread far right lies and fake news hahaha

What I’m astonished at is you are so slavishly supporting the Italian government. If Johnson and his government claimed 2,000 deaths in a small town were down to this virus and yet the town had 5,000 more deaths than march last year you would accept this? Why are you constantly believing the Italian official government line?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

log scale was always right, the smarter amongst us knew that.

It is useful for trends, but as with all things it shouldn't be used in isolation. The raw figures are also needed to highlight that even if trends look good the actual raw figures are still quite startling.

And you also need to highlight that countries are recording and testing differently and are also different in terms of density etc.

Ultimately this data will only prove of real use further down the line when this is over and it can be analysed and people also break it down with other factors. It will also need breaking down regionally in each country to highlight what things have made a big differences in cases/deaths. ie you'd expect urban areas to be much more afflicted per head of population and the larger/more dense the city the worse it will be.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

It is useful for trends, but as with all things it shouldn't be used in isolation. The raw figures are also needed to highlight that even if trends look good the actual raw figures are still quite startling.

And you also need to highlight that countries are recording and testing differently and are also different in terms of density etc.

Ultimately this data will only prove of real use further down the line when this is over and it can be analysed and people also break it down with other factors. It will also need breaking down regionally in each country to highlight what things have made a big differences in cases/deaths. ie you'd expect urban areas to be much more afflicted per head of population and the larger/more dense the city the worse it will be.

I think worldmeters is about the best place for the raw figures.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

They’re all a bit of a blur to me now to be honest. The one I do remember clearly was Woodlands, they used to terrorise the Henrys boys- late 80s & very early 90s this would have been.

I was there early-mid 90's. Some hard buggers and we had an excellent rugby and footy team.

 

[Sick Boy]

What I’m astonished at is you are so slavishly supporting the Italian government. If Johnson and his government claimed 2,000 deaths in a small town were down to this virus and yet the town had 5,000 more deaths than march last year you would accept this? Why are you constantly believing the Italian official government line?

I’m not slavishly supporting them, a few days ago I called them a shambles but I don’t own a tinfoil hat like you. You actually voted for and blindly back Johnson’s government and its figures are not going to be any more accurate.

The government here was slow to react but had since made up for it. Each residence has had PPE delivered and from tomorrow everyone has to wear them in public.

As I said, you’re the one who has slavishly lapped you and spread far right lies and even tried to spread some bizarre story about Russian troops, you don’t have a lot of credibility here.

Great attempt at deflection away from the shambles in the UK though.

Oh yeah, and the civil protection service does the reporting and co-ordinates the country’s response to disasters.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I was there early-mid 90's. Some hard buggers and we had an excellent rugby and footy team.

Ah, small world. Yes you were a big bunch alright. I think we played you in about 89 or something in the Coventry rugby final- I’ll dig the info out- and it was rough as hell.

 

[Nick]

Look at this silly bitch. Clearly knows fuck all.

Should have called her a c**t.

 

[Sick Boy]

Look at this silly bitch. Clearly knows fuck all.

Saw that earlier, absolutely dreadful.
I like how she goes on about them not being far away enough away from each other and then shoved a phones in their faces.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I’m not slavishly supporting them, a few days ago I called them a shambles but I don’t own a tinfoil hat like you. You actually voted for and blindly back Johnson’s government and its figures are not going to be any more accurate.

The government here was slow to react but had since made up for it. Each residence has had PPE delivered and from tomorrow everyone has to wear them in public.

As I said, you’re the one who has slavishly lapped you and spread far right lies and even tried to spread some bizarre story about Russian troops, you don’t have a lot of credibility here.

Great attempt at deflection away from the shambles in the UK though.

Oh yeah, and the civil protection service does the reporting and co-ordinates the country’s response to disasters.

When you say PPE, what has been delivered- masks & gloves or something?

 

[Nick]

Saw that earlier, absolutely dreadful.

Pretty sure fibre and infrastructure is more critical than whatever that silly bitch does.