Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (351 Viewers)

David O'Day

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It would interesting if someone, maybe that fella who jadr that pointless graph could go back and actually plot t
He amount of people who died on what day
 

Astute

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Yeah, well I've heard they've blocked routes into the Lake District. Derbyshire Police busy around the Peak District too. National Trust places closed, parks closed etc.
Yet some had a go at me for saying this would happen. The only problem is that the Tories took their time in doing so. And they still haven't said it clear enough.

The idiots need to know they need to stay at home. They need to realise they are not above the rest of us.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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The fatality numbers are in but interesting wording accompanying the English numbers on Guardian online (which goes towards supporting why looking at daily death rate alone is pretty irrelevant)

Wales - 41
Scotland - 81
England - 765

total 887

‘Of the 765 new hospital deaths announced today by NHS England, 140 occurred on April 8 while 568 took place between April 1 and April 7.

The remaining 57 deaths occurred in March, including two on March 19 and one on March 16’

Not sure what to read into that so won’t even try. Let’s hope confirmed case numbers are stable (ideally lower) and CC bed capacity is similar to yesterday
Confused by that mate! So they all weren't on the same day then?
 

David O'Day

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Yet some had a go at me for saying this would happen. The only problem is that the Tories took their time in doing so. And they still haven't said it clear enough.

The idiots need to know they need to stay at home. They need to realise they are not above the rest of us.
I know this weirdo has blocked me but I'm just going to laugh at him for pretending this is what he meant by more lockdown restrictions
 

Astute

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That’s not the question I posed

When you last posted you said the army would be in and we’d have full military lockdown. Rubbish wasn’t it?
You are an obnoxious twat.

I said what had happened elsewhere. This is the only thing that hadn't happened. So you ignore the rest and back the Tories. I wasn't making it up. If I had I would have been wrong on businesses closing, schools closing, fines being introduced an the lockdown happening. Not my fault that the Tories could have done more.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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So the Tories authorised a blimp of Trump wearing a nappy allowed London? He said he authorised that?
You truly are the king of whataboutism aren't you? I don't think you ever make an argument on here that isn't just bringing up something completely irrelevant that someone else has done to defend your side of the argument.

I think you know that stuff like handing out permits for balloons and ordering a complete lockdown of a city are on a completely different scale and wouldn't be covered by the same departments or require the same levels of authorisation. I know you're obviously intentionally missing the point of Astute's post in an attempt at a 'gotcha' moment but come on.
 

Marty

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There is no debate because are a fucking cretin who is horribly wrong.

I genuinely think you are a racist because you would not attack a white politician for following government advice.

You and the lurker

Lol, I have criticized many white politicians too.
 

fernandopartridge

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Yet some had a go at me for saying this would happen. The only problem is that the Tories took their time in doing so. And they still haven't said it clear enough.

The idiots need to know they need to stay at home. They need to realise they are not above the rest of us.

Saw a story that they'd turned a family from Wigan around (family of 6) and escorted them back to the M6. I seriously do not understand what is wrong with some people. I know not everybody has a garden or outside space, but a family of 6 from Wigan is likely to.
 

CCFCSteve

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Confused by that mate! So they all weren't on the same day then?

You’re not the only one ! What they are saying (and to be fair I’ve heard the medical officers saying it previously) is that the daily death numbers aren’t just the deaths that have occurred on that given day

ps as far as I’m aware the confirmed cases are more accurate assessment of the numbers for that day (might be wrong though).
 

skybluetony176

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That’s not the question I posed

When you last posted you said the army would be in and we’d have full military lockdown. Rubbish wasn’t it?
Given that you said the Russian army was patrolling the streets of Italy it’s probably best advised that you don’t go down that route.
 

Ring Of Steel

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You’re not the only one ! What they are saying (and to be fair I’ve heard the medical officers saying it previously) is that the daily death numbers aren’t just the deaths that have occurred on that given day

ps as far as I’m aware the confirmed cases are more accurate assessment of the numbers for that day (might be wrong though).

Cumulatives make the most sense
 

CCFCSteve

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Saw a story that they'd turned a family from Wigan around (family of 6) and escorted them back to the M6. I seriously do not understand what is wrong with some people. I know not everybody has a garden or outside space, but a family of 6 from Wigan is likely to.

Ive give up trying to understand people’s actions. All we can hope is that it’s a tiny minority (i fear not though)
 

clint van damme

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Confused by that mate! So they all weren't on the same day then?

No Dom, I put something similar up last week.
That's why you can't get too hung up and the numbers there's a whole host of reasons why they may not be accurate. It must be a nightmare trying to record them accurately at the moment.
When the curve starts to flatten you'll know.
 

Ring Of Steel

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Ive give up trying to understand people’s actions. All we can hope is that it’s a tiny minority (i fear not though)

Biggest problems here are with the travelling/ Roma community apparently- ignoring social distancing, can't read the instructions, big numbers living on top of each other etc.. probably no surprise that they are suffering disproportionately with infection rates.
 

Ring Of Steel

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So much for the great British sense of humour. Do you really think America isn’t parodying Trump themselves? Have you ever seen Saturday Night Live?

Yeah I agree- if you're in that position you need to be able to handle this stuff. Anyway Trump is a dangerous psycho and needs locking up.
 

David O'Day

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Lol, I have criticized many white politicians too.
Yep you've lied about what they have said then spent hours attacking them for following the advise of the health experts.

Oh wait you haven't

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David O'Day

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Tbh that blimp was an utter embarrassment and made us look pathetic to the USA
No it didn't. The yanks loved it and as he said at the time legally he couldn't turn it down and then allow the racists to have a blimp of him.

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David O'Day

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You’re not the only one ! What they are saying (and to be fair I’ve heard the medical officers saying it previously) is that the daily death numbers aren’t just the deaths that have occurred on that given day

ps as far as I’m aware the confirmed cases are more accurate assessment of the numbers for that day (might be wrong though).
What is confusing about it. It's the deaths reported on that day not the amount of deaths that day

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David O'Day

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Given that you said the Russian army was patrolling the streets of Italy it’s probably best advised that you don’t go down that route.
He's right though. Astute did predict this and is now claiming the national trust closing their parks as a vindication

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Astute

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Someone has blocked you? I am genuinely stunned by this news

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Only have one idiot blocked so I am as shocked as yourself that I can't see who posted to what you have replied to :smuggrin:
 

chiefdave

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What is confusing about it. It's the deaths reported on that day not the amount of deaths that day
What is confusing to me is why we have the same discussion about this every day yet people still act surprised.

The ONS figures are more accurate but don’t come out daily and are always weeks later as they allow time for everything to be reported and allocated to the date of death rather than date of reporting.

But even those figures won’t be completely accurate. The closest we’ll probably get is comparing the total death rate (all causes) to the same time in previous years.
 

CCFCSteve

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What is confusing about it. It's the deaths reported on that day not the amount of deaths that day

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I know, my point was that Dom wasn’t the only one, a lot of people (in particular the media) have been following those numbers alone, even though it’s been stated previously that they aren’t just deaths that occurred that day (the medical officers have obviously got to the point where they wanted to be explicit hence the accompanying note)

I’m a little surprised by the split though, thought a higher proportion might be from actual day and also not so may from last month. This does make reading the potential peak from these impossible (confirmed cases should be a better guide)
 

Flying Fokker

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You are an obnoxious twat.

I said what had happened elsewhere. This is the only thing that hadn't happened. So you ignore the rest and back the Tories. I wasn't making it up. If I had I would have been wrong on businesses closing, schools closing, fines being introduced an the lockdown happening. Not my fault that the Tories could have done more.

And you came back to this thread after a few days behind the lines? I’d leave em to it.. That isn’t a slight on you. This thread is toxic.
 

Flying Fokker

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What is confusing to me is why we have the same discussion about this every day yet people still act surprised.

The ONS figures are more accurate but don’t come out daily and are always weeks later as they allow time for everything to be reported and allocated to the date of death rather than date of reporting.

But even those figures won’t be completely accurate. The closest we’ll probably get is comparing the total death rate (all causes) to the same time in previous years.

as you say... Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Office for National Statistics
 

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