What have we really got to lose? (26 Viewers)

[Moff]

If you post on a forum you should expect some debate, and thats all it is dont take it so personally. I have no problem with you, was just asking a question.


A debate, I enjoy....being attacked, however, is a different thing!
I know exactly what you were trying to do Moff!!!
You was hoping to find something to "Have a go" at me with, weren't you! Put your cards on the table mate.
Simply by insinuating username....I don't have anything to hide. What a few people on here need to realise is......You may be eloquent in the posts that you write, but does NOT give you the right to "Put posters down" because their views differ to yours, or cannot express their thoughts in the way that others can!

What exactly was I trying to do Poirot? because in my mind it was respond to your post and be polite.

I write eloquently as thats how I am, if you dont like it grow a pair, and as for me putting posters down try looking at your own posts.

 

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[Sky Blue Kid]

Being on a forum is all about debate. You are correct. That is what most of us are on here for.

If you make a comment whilst debating then is this comment up for debate? If not you could make a comment and say that comment is not up for debate When SISU took over all I remember was good comments. Don't remember anyone giving out warnings. What is wrong with saying what site you said it on if you did say it? If you do then it would shut a few people up. If you don't want to then it would be better not to mention things you don't want to back up.

This is not me having a go. This is me saying it as I see it. All part of having a debate

Sarcasm abounds...does it not Astute?...My comments were made on eurosport, and as you so eloquently said, you don't remember anyone giving out warnings...Well if you used Eurosport you WOULD have......MINE!....Now go and stand in line with the others in the "Clique"...Next!!!!

 

[Grendel]

Sarcasm abounds...does it not Astute?...My comments were made on eurosport, and as you so eloquently said, you don't remember anyone giving out warnings...Well if you used Eurosport you WOULD have......MINE!....Now go and stand in line with the others in the "Clique"...Next!!!!

Are you an example of care in the community? It isn't working.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

What exactly was I trying to do Poirot? because in my mind it was respond to your post and be polite.

I write eloquently as thats how I am, if you dont like it grow a pair, and as for me putting posters down try looking at your own posts.

Re-read the post, I've already said what you were trying to do. As for eloquence....re-read my post,(Perhaps I may have not made myself clear) It was meant to have read...."A group of posters" may write eloquently(Plural)...and not YOU alone(Singular)
Eloquence is to be admired, but not everyone can be eloquent, and therefore these people should not be made fun of. Something that "Holier than thou" posters on here tend to forget. My post (Yesterday) was attacked by the same 3-4 posters who all tend to be,(What seems not only to me, but other posters, pro-SISU)....If this is not true, certainly seems that way.
kduffy, torchomatic, Astute, and from your last post..YOU, are all sarcastic......So what makes you all better than me, and others who post on here, eh?............NOTHING!

 

[Moff]

Fair enough. You have clarified a couple of points that I picked up on.

I do not think I am better than you, I dont know you, and you like me are just a name behind some words, so I ahve nothing to base an opinion on.

I am not and never have been pro SISU, and would be pleased for anyone to point out where I have posted as such.

Lets agree to disagree. Chill out a little.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Are you an example of care in the community? It isn't working.

Are you an example of a bigheaded, sarcastic, holier than thou moron?............It's working!

 

[Ashdown]

I thought Torchomatic had flounced off.......................I wish SISU would Fu...........flounce off !!

 

[Astute]

Sarcasm abounds...does it not Astute?...My comments were made on eurosport, and as you so eloquently said, you don't remember anyone giving out warnings...Well if you used Eurosport you WOULD have......MINE!....Now go and stand in line with the others in the "Clique"...Next!!!!

There are no "clique's" as you say. Such an easy comment for you to make as you usually do. Then next comes the abuse from you. So predictable. Why do you bother going somewhere for debate when you don't want debate but want to fall out with people when anyone disagrees with you?

You have had your attention for the day. Now you can mellow out.

 

[Astute]

Are you an example of a bigheaded, sarcastic, holier than thou moron?............It's working!

And there was the abuse I said about whilst I was typing. So predictable

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Fair enough. You have clarified a couple of points that I picked up on.

I do not think I am better than you, I dont know you, and you like me are just a name behind some words, so I ahve nothing to base an opinion on.

I am not and never have been pro SISU, and would be pleased for anyone to point out where I have posted as such.

Lets agree to disagree. Chill out a little.

A couple of points Moff.....At no time in my post did I say you were pro SISU, but I did say the 3-4 posters who made "Comments" or "Liked" what others had said about my post, "Seemed to me and other posters" to be pro SISU......................HOWEVER, I did say you were (Along with posters that I've already mentioned) sarcastic. Any sarcasm from me, only comes in retaliation.
I am chilled, but admit to "Biting" when being attacked.
And Yes!....let's agree to disagree.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Are you an example of care in the community? It isn't working.

ASTUTE........selective blindness to kduffy posting this eh?

 

[Astute]

A couple of points Moff.....At no time in my post did I say you were pro SISU, but I did say the 3-4 posters who made "Comments" or "Liked" what others had said about my post, "Seemed to me and other posters" to be pro SISU......................HOWEVER, I did say you were (Along with posters that I've already mentioned) sarcastic. Any sarcasm from me, only comes in retaliation.
I am chilled, but admit to "Biting" when being attacked.
And Yes!....let's agree to disagree.

Sarcasm and personal attacks are two totally different things. Sarcasm is jest. Name calling is not. Yet you don't seem to know the difference.

If you spent less time calling people names they would not remember names you had already called them in the past. How do you think I predicted you would? You have done it to me. You have done it to others. Yet you seem to think that you can do it when you want, but when anyone says anything about yourself you seem to get upset by it :thinking about:

Try talikng to people on here as you would face to face. If not why don't you try www.iwanttobeabusedbyyou.com

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

I asked you a question Astute.....not going to answer it?

 

[Grendel]

I asked you a question Astute.....not going to answer it?

He did answer it. My comment was clearly a sarcastic reposte. Yours was personal abuse (as usual).

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

As long as any angst or vitriol is aimed at Sky Blue Kid.....That's ok!...is that right Astute?
If I'm not worth arguing with.....why do you???
No matter what I was to post, YOU, kduffy, Torchomatic, and a couple of others would find something wrong with it.
I get along with a hell of a lot of posters on here. We have CCFC at heart, and don't like sarcasm.
BTW....Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, and I, as well as many others on here, do NOT find it remotely funny.
I'm ashamed to say that I've been dragged down to YOUR level quite a few times, with regards to sarcasm...but only in defense.:facepalm:

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

@ kduffy.........

Are you an example of a bigheaded, sarcastic, holier than thou moron?............It's working!

This is not a personal attack....It is truth.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Steady on there Skyblues2K. you're suggesting people actually support their team. What a crazy notion. What, actually go there? This forum isn't likely to throw up many fans. A lot of them actually don't go and they quite openly say that.
Your thoughts are brilliant but will fall on deaf ears here, they're too busy making excuses. They moan forever about wanting a good team but won't do their bit in bringing that about. Their support is conditional. 'Win and I might think about it is their mentality.'
Just wish there were a few more like you about. Well done mate. Keep the faith
I dislike SISU as much as anyone, but they won't stop me supporting my team. Derby, Norwich, Southampton. They've got better teams because they've got better supporters.
Talk of Coventry being a town of people not coming from Coventry is old tosh these days. Look around England these days. We're multicultural almost everywhere, and a lot of these people like football.
The simple enthusiastic logic you suggest would make the world of difference.

I'm sorry "Thesnoz", but,


"Your thoughts are brilliant but will fall on deaf ears here, they're too busy making excuses. They moan forever about wanting a good team but won't do their bit in bringing that about. Their support is conditional. 'Win and I might think about it is their mentality.'


Totally unfair point you are making there. CCFC supporters turned up "Home and away" before and after SISU took charge.
Slowly, but surely, could see that no matter how many (A) bought season tickets, (B) paid on the gate,(C) travelled to away games,
SISU couldn't care less about the "Fan".
We as fans, do NOT say "Win and we might think about it"...We say "CARE" about our Club and "TRY" to put us back where we belong. You are wrong to try and make the situation as "Cut and dried" as you do!
In business, if you sell inferior goods...customers won't come back...At least try and sell better goods...you never know...The Ricoh might one day, be home to capacity crowds.

 

[Grendel]

No matter what I was to post, YOU, kduffy, Torchomatic, and a couple of others would find something wrong with it.

Try posting "Sky Blue Kid is no longer going to post on here" - I suspect that one may prove fairly popular.

 

[Astute]

As long as any angst or vitriol is aimed at Sky Blue Kid.....That's ok!...is that right Astute?
If I'm not worth arguing with.....why do you???
No matter what I was to post, YOU, kduffy, Torchomatic, and a couple of others would find something wrong with it.
I get along with a hell of a lot of posters on here. We have CCFC at heart, and don't like sarcasm.
BTW....Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, and I, as well as many others on here, do NOT find it remotely funny.
I'm ashamed to say that I've been dragged down to YOUR level quite a few times, with regards to sarcasm...but only in defense.:facepalm:

Cheers. So personal attacks using words young kids should not have to read is better than sarcasm?

I was not being sarcastic with you. I was telling the truth. And each time you come along with your insults and using words on here that I wouldn't want any of my younger kids to read I will say so. It is not just you. Would you say it to my face?

And now I bet you was about to go on about me being aggressive for saying that. It is what you said last time I said the same after you thought it was OK to use bad language on here. I am sorry the whole world is against you. If you want you are welcome to abuse me by PM......oooops you think that is wrong don't you. You prefer to give abuse in full view of kids. Well done. You are a big boy.

 

[Astute]

Try posting "Sky Blue Kid is no longer going to post on here" - I suspect that one may prove fairly popular.

Something wrong here Duffy.....when was the last time we agreed on anything :laugh:

 

[Grendel]

Something wrong here Duffy.....when was the last time we agreed on anything :laugh:

Yeah I was thinking that as well. Perhaps Sky Blue Kid is some kind of mediator trying to bring us to agree. Or perhaps he is just Sky Blue Kid...

 

[Astute]

I'm sorry "Thesnoz", but,


"Your thoughts are brilliant but will fall on deaf ears here, they're too busy making excuses. They moan forever about wanting a good team but won't do their bit in bringing that about. Their support is conditional. 'Win and I might think about it is their mentality.'


Totally unfair point you are making there. CCFC supporters turned up "Home and away" before and after SISU took charge.
Slowly, but surely, could see that no matter how many (A) bought season tickets, (B) paid on the gate,(C) travelled to away games,
SISU couldn't care less about the "Fan".
We as fans, do NOT say "Win and we might think about it"...We say "CARE" about our Club and "TRY" to put us back where we belong. You are wrong to try and make the situation as "Cut and dried" as you do!
In business, if you sell inferior goods...customers won't come back...At least try and sell better goods...you never know...The Ricoh might one day, be home to capacity crowds.

I agree with most of this, but you can't put us all in the same "box"

Some will go whatever. These are the fanatics. Some only go when we are doing well......they hardly go as we rarely do well. Some only go to big games against big teams......they rarely go and when they do they complain that we played crap. No thoughts on who our opponents were. The majority are somewhere in the middle of these. These are the ones you are on about.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

I agree with most of this, but you can't put us all in the same "box"

Some will go whatever. These are the fanatics. Some only go when we are doing well......they hardly go as we rarely do well. Some only go to big games against big teams......they rarely go and when they do they complain that we played crap. No thoughts on who our opponents were. The majority are somewhere in the middle of these. These are the ones you are on about.

I never thought I'd see the day you replied to one of my posts and actually debate civilly....I wasn't trying to put everyone in the same "Box". The point I was trying to make was, not all supporters are glory hunters. All I and I suspect most supporters want is for our team to be given a fair chance, ie investment in the squad, and not be treated like mushrooms. Success breeds success, or am I expecting too much from this clueless bunch who own us?

 

[ccfcjohn]

you certainly can't put us all in the same box. i am yet to renew my season ticket, and that will remain the case until there is clarity on how we go forward. whether that is with sisu or someone else i'm not really bothered, but with all the uncertainty at the minute i am not prepared to put my money into sisu's bank account.

i will be at every game as i think we all need to support the team on the pitch as much as we can, and will buy my tickets week by week. i think is what quite a lot of fans will be doing for a while unless things change quickly

 

[skybluesteve76]

Try posting "Sky Blue Kid is no longer going to post on here" - I suspect that one may prove fairly popular.

I Agree, I thought he'd gone!!

 

[Astute]

I Agree, I thought he'd gone!!

We can have a truce now. We are all one. We are all in this mess together.

Sod it, lets fight :slap:

 

[skybluehugh]

Being on a forum is all about debate. You are correct. That is what most of us are on here for.

If you make a comment whilst debating then is this comment up for debate? If not you could make a comment and say that comment is not up for debate When SISU took over all I remember was good comments. Don't remember anyone giving out warnings. What is wrong with saying what site you said it on if you did say it? If you do then it would shut a few people up. If you don't want to then it would be better not to mention things you don't want to back up.

This is not me having a go. This is me saying it as I see it. All part of having a debate

Sorry to say but on 606 myself and a another regular poster on here (not SBK) were always saying that they would distroy OUR ( I do think we sometimes forget this) club and were roundly dismissed as being to negative and crazy for not believing the 2nd set of lies dished out by shitsu's mouthpiece.

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

Sorry to say but on 606 myself and a another regular poster on here (not SBK) were always saying that they would distroy OUR ( I do think we sometimes forget this) club and were roundly dismissed as being to negative and crazy for not believing the 2nd set of lies dished out by shitsu's mouthpiece.

2nd set-when was that that? There have been so many sets of lies, I lose track..

 

[skybluehugh]

I asked you a question Astute.....not going to answer it?

SBK as you know from most of my posts I am fully behind your view of our current owners and the way they are treating our club. Bt I have to say you do take things very personal and through that have ruined a couple of good debates. Torch and Kduffy have compleatly oposite views to both of us (and most of the forum) and their comments can really push my buttons just as mine pushes theirs i am sure, but it is their view and they will proberly keep it until we are in the conferance just as mine won't change even if we are sitting on top of the table next year. So please stop taking things so personal because it does distrack from the bigger issue which is the welfare of our club

 

[torchomatic]

I tend to blame Astute for most things to be honest. Then Duffy, then myself, so you may have a point. I cursed him this morning when I couldn't get any Vimto from the corner shop.

I'm ashamed to say that I've been dragged down to YOUR level quite a few times, with regards to sarcasm...but only in defense.:facepalm:

 

[Astute]

Don't worry, I like to blame me for things. I try to make out sometimes that I am not perfect and blaming myself for things helps me with this

 

[skybluehugh]

I tend to blame Astute for most things to be honest. Then Duffy, then myself, so you may have a point. I cursed him this morning when I couldn't get any Vimto from the corner shop.

WHAT, you mean you didn't blame shitsu? There's a suprise

 

[Grendel]

WHAT, you mean you didn't blame shitsu? There's a suprise

Why would he? He's one of their disciples. So am I. I have a picture of joy seppella which I worship every day.

 

[torchomatic]

Which reminds me, could I have my Ken Dulieu 2012 Annual back?

Why would he? He's one of their disciples. So am I. I have a picture of joy seppella which I worship every day.

 

[torchomatic]

Yeah, nice one.

WHAT, you mean you didn't blame shitsu? There's a suprise