Difficulty with EPL restart (9 Viewers)

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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If the season in the P L finishes with no relegation a lot of the games would have little or no interest to the T V viewers .The paymasters wouldn't be too pleased plus next season the pot would be divided 23 ways instead of 20, loss of millions to the other 14 I think they will stick to their guns and there will be relegation.

If you remove the relegation issue the entire thing is pretty much a procession and of no interest. Liverpool have all but won the league, European places - who really gives a shit. Only exciting thing left is who'd go down. Take that away and what's the point. All the players in teams that aren't near the top can be on cruise control. Could lose every remaining game 10-0 and it wouldn't make the slightest difference to them.
 

Brylowes

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Exactly. And that's where the questions about the ethics of it arise.
There are key workers who haven't been tested.
It could also be argued that professional footballers are included in a very ‘low risk‘ demographic
Of society ie: age group and fitness levels, then couple this with the fact that most of their Limited
Work schedule will be carried out the open air, team talking etc could be done via video conferencing.
 

Terry_dactyl

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If the season in the P L finishes with no relegation a lot of the games would have little or no interest to the T V viewers .The paymasters wouldn't be too pleased plus next season the pot would be divided 23 ways instead of 20, loss of millions to the other 14 I think they will stick to their guns and there will be relegation.
Also, given that Liverpool are so far ahead, completing the season would be almost irrelevant. The excitement of seeing who finishes 4th!
 

Sbarcher

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Ok how about this.
No relegation in the PL. Only those in autos in lower leagues are promoted. The rest in play-off positions share the £120m pro-rata from the non payment of parachute payments for this season. A hefty wedge should help those feeling aggrieved.
 

RegTheDonk

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A few here mentioning the "legal" points of all this.

Could it be that the EFL, if they let member clubs vote on any outcome, are trying to wash their hands with any legal responsibility (ie, not being sued by those who ultimately miss out)?

Just wondering if those clubs that vote for the resolution that does go forward, would see themselves taken to court by a few upset clubs.
 

wingy

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Ok how about this.
No relegation in the PL. Only those in autos in lower leagues are promoted. The rest in play-off positions share the £120m pro-rata from the non payment of parachute payments for this season. A hefty wedge should help those feeling aggrieved.
Oh I don't know .
Maybe across the whole division and for the full duration . Lol.
What is it 3 seasons on a reducing scale ?
 

Sbarcher

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Oh I don't know .
Maybe across the whole division and for the full duration . Lol.
What is it 3 seasons on a reducing scale ?
I think 1st year it's £40m each, then £35m then £15m 3rd year.
 

Grendel

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A few here mentioning the "legal" points of all this.

Could it be that the EFL, if they let member clubs vote on any outcome, are trying to wash their hands with any legal responsibility (ie, not being sued by those who ultimately miss out)?

Just wondering if those clubs that vote for the resolution that does go forward, would see themselves taken to court by a few upset clubs.

The clubs can’t realistically take legal action as it revokes their membership status
 

RegTheDonk

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The clubs can’t realistically take legal action as it revokes their membership status
Thanks for raising that point, it makes sense. I don't know the legal aspect of any of this, so was just wondering if the EFL are hitting the chicken switch.
 

The Philosopher

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3rd Brighton player tests positive.

I get the “in the past Middlesbrough...flu”, just like any other injury; but when you get entire squads having to self isolate it goes back to my OP:

It’ll be difficult to see a Premier League restart, let alone EFL
 

Grendel

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3rd Brighton player tests positive.

I get the “in the past Middlesbrough...flu”, just like any other injury; but when you get entire squads having to self isolate it goes back to my OP:

It’ll be difficult to see a Premier League restart, let alone EFL

Squads will om the end not be able to self isolate if someone else has it. Otherwise football and all sport is dead until a vaccine and that could be years away
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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3rd Brighton player tests positive.

I get the “in the past Middlesbrough...flu”, just like any other injury; but when you get entire squads having to self isolate it goes back to my OP:

It’ll be difficult to see a Premier League restart, let alone EFL


Have they been training together?

There are a few clubs that this story was likely to come from

villa
West Ham
Brighton
Norwich

Are the first that come to mind
 

Legia Sky Blue

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I'm slightly suspicious of the Dresden outbreak too. As the team bottom of Bundesliga 2, they are probably hoping for a no relegation scenario, so putting a spanner in the works of restarting appears to work to their favour.
 

Specs WT-R75

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I have to say relegation seems a fair option it seems every team who doesn’t want to play has a reason they don’t want to get relegated they don’t give a shit about the players. The permier league needs a refresh and it’s a good way to do it, the top league will never miss the likes of Brighton or Burnley.
My personal preference is the two up none down, also with Bury going how is the league planning to get back to it’s full quota.

Barrow will be 'invited' to join the league, at a guess.
 

The Philosopher

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I’ve been putting my legal hat on and thinking through what might prevent the EFL from restarting.

I think it’s a given that all players and refs etc will need to be tested prior to restart or even training.

It’s quite likely that some positive results may come up and, those players will have to be excluded from training or self isolate / miss games.

Some clubs will be affected more than others.

I’m just grasping here, but let’s say Troy Deeney (or a family member) from Watford tests positive and misses training / games through isolation.

I don’t think I’m grasping in that he’s pivotal to Watford.
Let’s say he’s not the only one from Watford, they complete the season without him (for at least part or he’s not fit because of isolation), they get relegated (looking at the table it’s not unrealistic) - potential losses huge.

It could create a legal challenge of some sort and the fall out would be long-going.

There are so many scenarios where a situation like this could come up - Salah / Liverpool or any team dependant on a Champ League slot or near relegation.

It is possible, but I think that with so much at stake there will be huge amounts of wrangling once the chairman get legal advisors pecking their heads.

I might be wrong but it’s an angle perhaps many haven’t seen yet.
In the meantime, three at Watford test positive and Troy Deeney is unwilling to train. Troy Deeney: Watford captain says he will not return to training
 

wingy

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In the meantime, three at Watford test positive and Troy Deeney is unwilling to train. Troy Deeney: Watford captain says he will not return to training
I can't believe they haven't been adequately isolating for the last month.

They should have been being tested and in team Quarantine already IMO .
However most of these lads are ridiculously wealthy .
If they don't want to risk it will be able to survive for life regardless.
Not forgetting BAME players are four times as likely to suffer extreme symptoms.
 

Colin Steins Smile

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I think the medics are expecting a slight increase in the number of COVID cases, due to the VE day celebrations. Hopefully that will be only a blip
 

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