Luke McCormick (9 Viewers)
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torchomatic
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No, not everyone is perfect. Some people are just more stupid than others. McCormick/Hughes, they're the same. Stupid.
And yes, I'm 46 and things like that did happen 20/25 years ago. I used to drink in Long Itch, so it was a nice quiet village, not many police about so there were lockins and people staggering to their cars, tired and drunk. Scum.
And yes, I'm 46 and things like that did happen 20/25 years ago. I used to drink in Long Itch, so it was a nice quiet village, not many police about so there were lockins and people staggering to their cars, tired and drunk. Scum.
Mate, i'd be the same if it was my boy to be honest but it isn't (and i hope it never is)
But you didn't answer my question. You ever drove to work in the morning after a good drink the night before? Feeling worse for wear?
Your right they are scum.
Astute
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It is more like 40 years ago. There also never used to be speeding restrictions on motorways.
Still no excuse though.
Grendel
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I accept the notion he didn't mean to kill them but he did. Also from memory this wasn't a couple of pints and a drive home up the road. He was careering down the motorway wasn't he? Most of the outrage is at his sentence which is pathetic. Then there is the wonderful football world. Someone will always try and recruit a player on the cheap. I was against kings employment but of course this is far worse.
Your comment about the family revelling in publicity defies any rational belief. What happens when the media loses interest in the story. They go out on another drive and hope some drunken idiot veers across the motorway and hits them? Perhaps they are just outraged that a tiny percentage of a young mans liberty was removed and now he can live his life as if nothing happened. For the victim it's always a life sentence.
Not saying it is a excuse but your missing the point. You would think Luke was the only lad to have ever drove after a drink the night before.
Astute
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Never. Never have, never will. That is why when I travel to a game I make a full weekend of it and come home sunday night.
Your right - depends how you look at it.
If it was my kids I would try to kill the c**t (hypocrisy again)
I look at it like this - if that was a mate who was a bricklayer then I would not begrudge him getting his job back after doing 4 years. I admit 4 years is not a lot and I would tell him that, I would even say he was a c**t for doing what he did - but I probably wouldn't stop being his mate as it was an 'accident' to a degree.
Maybe he should compensate financially? I know it will never bring the kids back but it would show that he understands he is privileged (again) after the crime.
Would like to say I do feel for the parents (poor bastards) although the way they keep coming out in the news and papers. It seems as though they want it to keep appearing on the news. I personally would want nothing going out to the wide audiance.
Ok............
Desperados
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The sentences were all too short but that is a failing in the justice system not the offenders fault. Sentences seem to be based on cash value these days, rob a bank - 10 years, kill someone 3 years. Doesn't make sense? Luke is meant to be a nice lad, but that excuses nothing, he made a silly mistake with horrendous consequences and will have to live with it for the rest of his life as will the kids family. He has served his short time and is now entitled to earn a living. Whether he is a chef at pizza hut or footballer means nothing to me and can only think the wage he will get is the reason some find it intolerable?
Astute
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Have not said he is alone in drinking and driving. It is what happened because of it.
torchomatic
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I think you're right. He should be "breaking rocks in the hot sun", but unfortunately on this occasion it seems he won, not the law.
I think we all agree the sentence is too short. Its the point of him been allowed to play again.
The origonal sentence was in line with typical Mansluaghter charges ,its the discount given that makes a mockery of the law ,but he's served what they've deemed appropriate ,i doubt his life will ever be the same either,this will haunt him if he's as human as the rest of us,he'd have to be one callous bastard if it did'nt .
torchomatic
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Personally, I hope his crime haunts him every moment he's awake and gives him nightmares every moment he sleeps.
To me he has paid the price and has to live with what he has done for rest of his life.
I would not boo him at all, infact he deserves another chance. What else can he do,go into a dark corner and never come out?
He is a Coventry kid and I wish him well, he will have thoughts in his head for rest of his life..
I would not boo him at all, infact he deserves another chance. What else can he do,go into a dark corner and never come out?
He is a Coventry kid and I wish him well, he will have thoughts in his head for rest of his life..
Brighton Sky Blue
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Coventry kid or not, professional footballer or not, people in this country are far too quick to condemn individuals for life because of one stupid mistake they might have made during their lives. He didn't decide his jail sentence and he didn't write the laws in this country that enable people to serve just a few years for taking someone's life-he has however served the punishment dealt and has a right to go out and attempt to earn a living like anyone else. He still has two deaths on his conscience regardless.
The problem is that footballers have become some weird role models. Like whether somebody can score a goal is more important than people's lives. Footballer x rapes a woman but he s a good lad, footballer y knocks a woman about but he s a good striker, footballer z kills kids after DECIDING to drive a deadly weapon while not in a fit state, he s a good lad. My opinion as someone who has grown out of thinking that the game is the be all and end all of everything us that mccormicks punishment is that he should have to go out and get a real job
AlexJohnson93
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I'd never boo a player, it just seems a bit neandertholic to me.
With regards to McCormick, he's done his time and is out so of course he deserves a second chance. He'll be living with it for the rest of his life. As an aside i'm not sure what the parents of the 2 boys are gaining by haranguing Luke. He's been punished and nothing else can now happen. They should try to forgive him because harbouring the resentment is not healthy.
With regards to McCormick, he's done his time and is out so of course he deserves a second chance. He'll be living with it for the rest of his life. As an aside i'm not sure what the parents of the 2 boys are gaining by haranguing Luke. He's been punished and nothing else can now happen. They should try to forgive him because harbouring the resentment is not healthy.
LeamingtonBootBoy
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Whether McCormick is a good bloke or not makes little difference.
He chose to drink and drive and the consequences are there for the parents of those kids who suffered because of HIS mistake to bear for the rest of their lives.
Should he get abuse? Difficult one as he has shown remorse.
As for that prick, Hughes, he is a complete twat who served a pitiful sentence as has resumed a lifestyle beyond the wildest dreams of the vast majority....yes, give him loads of abuse.
He chose to drink and drive and the consequences are there for the parents of those kids who suffered because of HIS mistake to bear for the rest of their lives.
Should he get abuse? Difficult one as he has shown remorse.
As for that prick, Hughes, he is a complete twat who served a pitiful sentence as has resumed a lifestyle beyond the wildest dreams of the vast majority....yes, give him loads of abuse.
sylus
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LeamingtonBootBoy
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Well said, Sylus.
AlexJohnson93
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I think i could. I've been hit by a car and broke an arm, leg and ribs. I dont hate that person. I got bullied in school, i dont hate those people.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Equally, you'd want to see them justly punished. If you're an exceptionally forgiving person, I commend you for it, but most would want the punishment to fit the crime.
Delboycov
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Lets get one thing straight...the people yhat will have to live with this for the rest of their lives are the parents. McCormick will be able to get on with his life and lucrative job and see his own kids grow up. The parents of those children will never be able to do that. If he'd done that to my 2 children I wouldn't rest until he wasn't here anymore....Quite shocked at you CUS tend to agree with most things CCFC you say but can't agree what you say about the parents. Why should they quietly drift into the background and let those that have killed innocent people in this way get off so lightly? If them speaking up publicly and keeping those issues in the media spotlight stops one twat jumping in his car pissed up and prevents the same thing happening to another poor family then it will be worthwile.
Astute
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I have 4 kids with driving licenses. None of them would dare do it. All my kids know right from wrong(other than my 2 year old) and even my 19 year old lad who was a bit of a handful at one stage would not. He knows if I ever found out he did D+D he would be in big trouble with me. They have all been brought up to respect the law and not make mistakes like I did.
They have all told me they hate me as they grew up. I am very strict but also very fair. When they all reached about 18 each one has thanked me for bringing them up that way. The 19 yr old said it his own way though
Delboycov
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AlexJohnson93
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I'm not sure tbh. If i was killed in purely accidental measures i dont think i'd want to ruin that persons life by sending them to prison. They'd have to live with the guilt.
AlexJohnson93
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I got bullied near enough every day for a year. I got severe depression and tried to commit suicide. I'm surprised i'm still alive.
Sky Blue Kid
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TBH, there is nothing "Purely accidental" about the cicumstances of Hughes, and McCormick. The UK needs a "Zero tollerance" to drinking and driving, end of.
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