Outside the box idea to settle League 1 (4 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I did that too.....got a weeks detention, during which they left the chemistry stores open so I lifted a whole roll of magnesium ribbon...

When we use magnesium it's me that hands it out, heard enough of those stories to not just leave it lying around! Slightly more problematic is the story of one student who tried to flush a huge piece of potassium down the bog

 

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[jimmyhillsfanclub]

When we use magnesium it's me that hands it out, heard enough of those stories to not just leave it lying around! Slightly more problematic is the story of one student who tried to flush a huge piece of potassium down the bog

Ha ha ha....classic. I wish I'd seen that.....from a safe distance with safety specs & wetsuit on obviously.

 

[fernandopartridge]

See if this works. This shows the PPG of teams on 6th March 2019, and the PPG at the end of the season and how much the change of PPG for the games beyond that date changed and the extent to which the team's project points tally changed from PPG as of 6th March and PPG at the end of the season. It shows that it is a pretty reliable barmometer if you ask me:

Edit, formatting doesn't work but listed below is the difference in points tally for each team:

Accrington Stanley 0.12
AFC Wimbledon -2.53
Barnsley 0.24
Blackpool 1.20
Bradford City 0.57
Bristol Rovers -1.03
Burton Albion -1.24
Charlton Athletic -2.19
Coventry City 0.17
Doncaster Rovers 0.37
Fleetwood Town 0.81
Gillingham -0.58
Luton Town 1.09
Oxford United -2.09
Peterborough United 0.07
Plymouth Argyle 0.93
Portsmouth -0.61
Rochdale -2.23
Scunthorpe United 1.89
Shrewsbury Town 0.14
Southend United 0.93
Sunderland 1.83
Walsall 1.02
Wycombe Wanderers 0.84

 

[mrtrench]

I've got an off-the-wall idea too. It's unusual, so please clear your head of preconceptions and ride with it.

Every team elects one player. They all get together two meters apart and are blindfolded and spun around in a circle by 23 referees, who then scarper. The theme music from Zorba the Greek is played and the players have to dance. Each player is given points for their dancing by Robbie Williams and those people off Strictly (don't watch it so don't know their names). The points are all put into a hat and drawn randomly. But it's all a sham because it's fixed that Peterborough get top points. And then they do weighted points per game and we go up! Peterborough are happy because they won something and we're happy because we go up.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

How about Pirates Per Game? DMAC in the middle

 

[skyblueusername]

I've got an off-the-wall idea too. It's unusual, so please clear your head of preconceptions and ride with it.

Every team elects one player. They all get together two meters apart and are blindfolded and spun around in a circle by 23 referees, who then scarper. The theme music from Zorba the Greek is played and the players have to dance. Each player is given points for their dancing by Robbie Williams and those people off Strictly (don't watch it so don't know their names). The points are all put into a hat and drawn randomly. But it's all a sham because it's fixed that Peterborough get top points. And then they do weighted points per game and we go up! Peterborough are happy because they won something and we're happy because we go up.

Sorry, but you lost my support for this as soon as you mentioned Robbie Williams.
If you could somehow merge your proposal with Brightons idea of pirates per game, ie having the fat dancing port vale fan in the barrel you may get my vote.
If you can guarantee they would be real swords you would definitely get my vote.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Sorry, but you lost my support for this as soon as you mentioned Robbie Williams.
If you could somehow merge your proposal with Brightons idea of pirates per game, ie having the fat dancing port vale fan in the barrel you may get my vote.
If you can guarantee they would be real swords you would definitely get my vote.

Do you want the barrel in the water or not?

 

[skyblueusername]

Dont mind, as long as he gets the swords.

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

I think you're ignoring the fundamental reason why teams do not want to play on which is about finances. What happens if I'm a team that wants to play on but all of my opponents do not?

It's flawed. PPG is and always has been the only way.

I've obviously explained this really badly. I thought I had addressed the financial issue by teams having the option not to play on, with the point per game avenue there for the purpose of not over penalising them for taking that stance against other teams wanting to play. Your second point is addressed by the likely table in my original post if that scenario played out. Every team currently in with a reasonable chance of promotion would still have that chance, but would have to earn it on the pitch. All those teams appear to want to play on from what I can see, apart from maybe Rotherham and ourselves. The way the remaining fixtures fall, no team would have the situation of having all its opponents not wanting to play. Those that want to play on would, those that did not would not have to, which would appear to satisfy the needs, self interested though they may be, of more clubs than the other outcomes proposed so far. Anyhow I can see that this is largely falling on deaf ears so I'll stop trying to flog a dead horse, and leave the arguments to PPG/ McAnthony/ Null & Void/ 10 team play offs as previously

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

While we have this impasse on how to decide League 1 between all the vested interests it's struck me that there is a possible middle ground in all this, allowing every team that wants to stop playing to do so and those that want to play on to also do so. This basically works by allowing those teams that do not want to play to have all their remaining games decided 0-0, while all the remaining games are played to their conclusion. Amongst the bottom half it looks like only Tranmere would want to play on, while in the top half from what I understand Doncaster would be unlikely to want to play on, so on that basis the most games anyone would have to play would be Rotherham with 6. We would have 4 - Oxford (h), Peterborough (h), Wycombe (h) and Gillingham (a). A table prior to the resumption for those that want to carry on would look something like this:

1. Coventry 40 - 73
2. Portsmouth 41 - 66
3. Peterborough 41 - 65
4. Rotherham 38 - 65
5. Sunderland 42 - 65
6. Fleetwood 40 - 65
7. Wycombe 40 - 65
8. Oxford 39 - 64
9. Doncaster 44 - 64
10. Ipswich 43 - 59
11. Burton 44 - 57
12. Gillingham 39 - 55
13. Blackpool 44 - 54
14. Bristol Rovers 44 - 54
15. Lincoln 44 - 51
16. Shrewsbury 44 - 51
17. Accrington 44 - 49
18. MK Dons 44 - 46
19. Rochdale 44 - 46
20. Wimbledon 44 - 44
21. Tranmere 39 - 37
22. Southend 44 - 28
23. Bolton 44 - 24

This would allow everything to still be decided on the pitch, while protecting those clubs that financially don't think they can play on. Tranmere would still have a shot at staying up if they were good enough. All the promotion issues would be decided that way too, but with half the games required to play than at the moment, which makes it more practical. There's even an argument that this situation effectively becomes a play off in its own right, so promoting the top 3 without play offs also becomes a possibility, to reduce further games. The only clubs who might feel this adversely affects them are Ipswich and Gillingham, who are probably only pursuing the play on mantra at the moment in the outside chance that the 10 team play off proposition comes into play, so if this came into force they might decide not to play on, reducing the number of games needed even further.

What about if one team wants to play on are due to play one that doesn't? A team slightly ahead could say they don't want to play to ensure the distance between them is maintained.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I set things on fire in my classroom to be fair

Bunsen burners don't count!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Bunsen burners don't count!

In my first term at my new school I evacuated a whole building thanks to one demo

 

[fatso]

I am working from the premise of accepting that the greater interest of the game is for the likes of Accrington and Rochdale to not go out of business. If we don't accept that and it truly is dog eat dog, then ok lets just play out the season and let them face the consequences. If we want to be supportive of the majority in the league then this is one way of doing so. The only teams that can be truly safe by taking one point a game are those that have accrued enough points by their performances through the season so far. One point a game through a season would normally see you relegated from this league, so no team are getting any huge favours in this scenario. If say Rochdale took this option, both Wimbledon and Tranmere would still be able to overtake them by playing their games, and winning them, the same as they would have had to do if the season had played out as normal.

The one thing that's guaranteed to put clubs out of business is having to pay player wages AND paying for virus tests, while playing behind closed doors with no gate receipts, no parking revenue, and no food and beverage and no hospitality income,
And losing advertising income.
crazy idea!

 

[hill83]

When we use magnesium it's me that hands it out, heard enough of those stories to not just leave it lying around! Slightly more problematic is the story of one student who tried to flush a huge piece of potassium down the bog

I took a roll of magnesium strips home when I was about 12 and decided to light them in my bedroom. Not in my top five good ideas.

One of my brightest though