EFL to end season this week - City likely to be promoted (27 Viewers)

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Voice_of_Reason

Voice_of_Reason

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What are the supporters of Wycombe, Oxford, Portsmouth and Fleetwood saying on their forums ? I think their views will go a long way in these four guaranteed a play off place under PPG in which way they vote.
 
Evo1883

Evo1883

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Sick Boy said:
I would risk it I think, it’s so tight and form will be pretty much out of the window.
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Looking at Oxford forum just now they would be happy to take a PPG scenario, the fans that is.. Let's hope the owners feel the same, the financial gain is far greater than the risk to continue and miss out imo
 
Evo1883

Evo1883

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In 2018/19 solidarity payments from the premier league to the championship saw each club receive 4.65 million pound, league 1 clubs recieved 700k... I believe its risen to closer to 6 million this season for championship clubs
 
Sky Blue Harry H

Sky Blue Harry H

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Sick Boy said:
I think people will be surprised about how many clubs in the PO places would want to play on, they’re going to fancy going after the top 2
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Bird in the hand though comes into it. Guaranteed 'semi final' play off or risk falling out of top 6. Yes - might catch top one (they will assume we are out of reach) but just as easily may drop out of it, Guaranteed 2 leg play off may mean TV money (other route equals additional costs). I reckon at least one or two of those guaranteed a 3rd to 6th place under PPG (especially Wycombe) will vote for PPG.
 
Perryccfc

Perryccfc

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Sick Boy said:
I would risk it I think, it’s so tight and form will be pretty much out of the window.
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Yea form is out the window. But say the team in 5th turn up and their players don’t fancy it, they could so easily drop out of the top 6 all together. It’s a no brainer for all clubs apart from maybe Oxford and possibly Portsmouth for me. I feel Oxford are really the only likely team to challenge Rotherham. I cannot see Fleetwood risking it for the life of me.

The conversation they will be having will be if we restart and lose the first 2 games we could be well out of it.

If it was us in their position I would snap their hand off for a confirmed play off place and take my chances.
 
Evo1883

Evo1883

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Risk losing a potential crack at 5-6 million minimum to flex your muscles and potentially fail... No chance
 
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Magwitch

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They all play each other too and not so much Peterborough
Voice_of_Reason said:
What are the supporters of Wycombe, Oxford, Portsmouth and Fleetwood saying on their forums ? I think their views will go a long way in these four guaranteed a play off place under PPG in which way they vote.
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Those four clubs will be barmy to vote alongside Peterborough, they all play each other and Posh apart from away games against us and Sunderland away you couldn’t ask for a better run in fixture wise.
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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Philosorapter said:
It works in the same way but it has become commonplace to leave out writing the probability factor if you tie the timeframe of games to games played instead of timestamping each of the games for the season.

Its a simplification. The RD only goes down now instead of partially increasing or decreasing for times between games.

It always tickles me because you can tell what sort of background the person is coming from by the way they lay out their figures.

For a chess rating system, no one in chess uses it in the way that is being shown by academia.

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So instead of having probabilities of where you might finish it's just getting to be commonplace to know the more games you play, the less your rating will move about.

This works especially well when you are playing regular fixtures like in a league setting.

You can see this in the animated bar chart below with the range of possibilities you can score getting less the more games that you play.

RD is important but it can be hidden away out of sight in this sort of setting.

Quick tip: This is how to know who are the newbies or not, on the way this information is set out. :D

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I love your enthusiasm for this stuff.
 
Philosoraptor

Philosoraptor

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wingy said:
How can they assess with real confidence after such a delay .
Momentum shift highly probable IMO .
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Absolutely correct.

In the proper Glicko-2 the RD will be lengthening because of the lack of gameplay. This makes the previous benchmarks for everyone's ratings a lot less stable.

I.e. It will move up and down more.
 
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Philosoraptor

Philosoraptor

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I would say though after all this PPG is the preferred method that CIty has opted for. This needs to be backed wholeheartedly.
 
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skybluesam66

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The year Ipswich got relegated they received 8 million in total including tv appearance money

sky show every midweek game live in the championship
Evo1883 said:
In 2018/19 solidarity payments from the premier league to the championship saw each club receive 4.65 million pound, league 1 clubs recieved 700k... I believe its risen to closer to 6 million this season for championship clubs
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SIR ERNIE

SIR ERNIE

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covboy1987 said:
You wont have to worry about the void as that is not on the table -It is understood clubs will now vote on whether or not they want the remaining matches to be played or for the League table to be decided on a points per game ratio
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N&V will only be off the table when this mess is finally resolved, we're rightly crowned champions and promoted.
Until then it's just words and it will remain as an unlikely but still possible fall-back for the FL if they prove themselves as being incapable of taking responsibility and showing the necessary leadership...and so far they haven't shown much.
This is all about doing the right thing, the fair thing.
The longer the FL allow it to drag on and the more self-interested solutions are thrown on the table, the more the concept of right and fair gets lost and the more difficult the FL make things for themselves.
They’re allowing this to become a bigger mess than it needed to be and in the end this may come down to a question of how big the FL's balls are.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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Is null and void definitely off the table? Have the EFL publicly stated that is the case, or is this just rumour and urban myth built up by wishful thinking on our part?
 
Evo1883

Evo1883

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Shrewsbury confirmed as wanting the season to end.

So that's

Coventry
Rotherham
Shrewsbury
Burton
Accrington

All 100%

7 to go
 
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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Otis said:
Official I think
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I could be wrong but don't think I have seen it official for EFL (although I really don't think it will happen). I think the FA have said it was off the cards for the Premier League and people assumed that it would trickle down to EFL but I am yet to see that officially
 
Liquid Gold

Liquid Gold

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Don’t forget Rochdale, they want it over. I’d say Bolton and Southend aswell. Why pay 600k when you have to win 7/10 to at least have a chance of staying up
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Yeah, Southend were trying for null and void but if that's off the table I think they'll just accept their fate. Rochdale are a definite.
 
Evo1883

Evo1883

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You would imagine mk dons, Lincoln and Blackpool would too, just can't see this going against us but never say never
 
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