Broad gate 6pm (5 Viewers)

[clint van damme]

So

"Those people look like they might have knives"

Proceed to chase those people down an alley.

Knife found in the bin. Shock, both you and the telegraph seem keen to forget that fact.

you don't even need to add the third line, the first two are preposterous enough.

 

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[cc84cov]

I'm not saying it was a deliberate setup, or a co-ordinated racist attack. I'm saying it might have been one or two idiots causing trouble, and it turning into something a lot nastier because of false rumours. And people's racial profiling (i.e. "those two guys look like they might be carrying knives") might well have had something to do with it. Clearly there's people on here who think that's impossible, or that you have to be an evil racist to even experience that. I disagree. I think a lot of people are overestimating how reliable eyewitness testimony is, and how people's biases play into it. Maybe that's why some people are more than happy to believe anyone who said "they've got a knife", but are outraged when someone says "no they didn't".

A knife was also found in a bin once they run prints we will all know this

 

[SBT]

So

"Those people look like they might have knives"

Proceed to chase those people down an alley.

Knife found in the bin. Shock, both you and the telegraph seem keen to forget that fact.

It's a fact that proves absolutely nothing about who was carrying it. So far, all the police have said about those two guys is that neither one was armed (I know this because I read it in the Telegraph)

 

[cc84cov]

As fans we need to contact the club to have this fool who made the video banned

 

[Harry Krishner]

This is why I made a point of pointing out to the Telegraph they failed to mention a knife being found. Wonder if they would have been so keen to report that if not?

People are literally ignoring facts, that includes the fucking racist by the statue. People are getting worked up about something that clearly isn't a knife in a picture as well.

How far do you go to defend and ignore knife crime?

Jesus - that's pretty rich coming from a Rwandan - was it 900,000 Tutsis hacked to pieces?

 

[David O'Day]

So

"Those people look like they might have knives"

Proceed to chase those people down an alley.

Knife found in the bin. Shock, both you and the telegraph seem keen to forget that fact.

The other fact is that other city fans / friends have seen the knife, heard them say it and were there. Now compare that to a random woman from London who has seen an article which doesn't even mention a knife is found.

They told people they had a knife, I know people who they told.

Yes Sad Bullshitting Twunt they did tell they police.

 

[jordan210]

I find it amazing how much abuse people get for pointing out that a knife was recovered.

 

[cc84cov]

They told people they had a knife, I know people who they told.

Yes Sad Bullshitting Twunt they did tell they police.

They defo had a knife I was there everyone was shouting it soon as it was pulled this is why the city lads chased them ok no knife found on them but the one in the bin will have been the knife they had

 

[David O'Day]

I can't get SBT's logic.

Him - "There is no evidence they had a knife"

People - "There is eye witness evidence they had a knife"

Him - "See I told you there is no evidence"

 

[Nick]

It's a fact that proves absolutely nothing about who was carrying it. So far, all the police have said about those two guys is that neither one was armed (I know this because I read it in the Telegraph)

I didn't say it did. It's just that you seem to have only mentioned certain parts.

Good job I asked the telegraph to update their story else you wouldn't have even known a knife was found.

You keep saying there is nothing to say they had a knife, multiple city fans saw them with a knife, people were panicking and shouting they have a knife, a knife was found where they ran to.

It's not comparible to a random woman who knows nothing about it, knows nobody who was there or even knows who CCFC are saying they are innocent and it was a racist attack.

 

[Harry Krishner]

They defo had a knife I was there everyone was shouting it soon as it was pulled this is why the city lads chased them ok no knife found on them but the one in the bin will have been the knife they had

Give a statement to the Bill. We need to clear this shit up properly.

 

[Nick]

I find it amazing how much abuse people get for pointing out that a knife was recovered.

Exactly, strangely rather than say "Knife crime is wrong" it's much better to say "It was planted".

No city fans are having issues saying that prick in the video was wrong.

 

[jordan210]

Exactly, strangely rather than say "Knife crime is wrong" it's much better to say "It was planted".

No city fans are having issues saying that prick in the video was wrong.

It appears the crazy world we currently live in. If you don't like something you just hurl abuse and not actually take time to step back and address the whole picture.

 

[covcity4life]

There is a picture of one of citt fans with a sharp object whilst holding the bin lid but its way too inconclusive really.

My friend was there and says same that they lads werw holding a knife

City centre not safe anymore

 

[Liquid Gold]

It's a fact that proves absolutely nothing about who was carrying it. So far, all the police have said about those two guys is that neither one was armed (I know this because I read it in the Telegraph)

Siri show me the definition of naivety

 

[David O'Day]

Basically it's only a few head wobblers on twitter who care

Let's move on and enjoy promotion, let the police nail the 2 cunts with a knife.

 

[clint van damme]

There is a picture of one of citt fans with a sharp object whilst holding the bin lid but its way too inconclusive really.

My friend was there and says same that they lads werw holding a knife

City centre not safe anymore

you sure he wasn't drawing on his deep seated racial prejudices to conjure up a scenario that didn't exist simultaneously with dozens of other people?

 

[Liquid Gold]

Jesus - that's pretty rich coming from a Rwandan - was it 900,000 Tutsis hacked to pieces?

Jesus - that's pretty rich coming from a Englishman - was it 4m people starved in Bengal?

Don't profile someone based on their nationality, that's xenophobic and as bad as whatever c**t spinning this is doing.

 

[covcity4life]

you sure he wasn't drawing on his deep seated racial prejudices to conjure up a scenario that didn't exist simultaneously with dozens of other people?

His names sandeep..

 

[clint van damme]

Basically it's only a few head wobblers on twitter who care

Let's move on and enjoy promotion, let the police nail the 2 cunts with a knife.

I hope they do the prick who made the video for hate crime as well.

 

[Nick]

There is a picture of one of citt fans with a sharp object whilst holding the bin lid but its way too inconclusive really.

My friend was there and says same that they lads werw holding a knife

City centre not safe anymore

It's clearly not a knife he's holding. He is stood there talking to a police woman with it.

I am not sure the police would have allowed him to stand talking to them like that with a knife in his hand.

 

[Nick]

I hope they do the prick who made the video for hate crime as well.

Exactly, shocked at how he seems to be well out of the hate.

 

[covcity4life]

It's clearly not a knife he's holding. He is stood there talking to a police woman with it.

I am not sure the police would have allowed him to stand talking to them like that with a knife in his hand.

No not that pic, I agree thats clearly a flag end

Another one wirh a lad in corner holding the bin too. Like i said im not sure it necessarily means anything

 

[clint van damme]

His names sandeep..

I was being sarcastic given some of the shit SBT has been posting.
Also didn't want to assume that just because you're Sikh your mate was as well.

 

[jordan210]

It's clearly not a knife he's holding. He is stood there talking to a police woman with it.

I am not sure the police would have allowed him to stand talking to them like that with a knife in his hand.

PSB group said it was a wooden stick or some sort of pole that was found on in the ally way. they were there

 

[David O'Day]

I hope they do the prick who made the video for hate crime as well.

yep 3 arrests and 3 people doing bird

 

[Liquid Gold]

PSB group said it was a wooden stick or some sort of pole that was found on in the ally way. they were there

Well we can rule out wooden stick or some sort of pole then.

 

[Nick]

No not that pic, I agree thats clearly a flag end

Another one wirh a lad in corner holding the bin too. Like i said im not sure it necessarily means anythingView attachment 15393

It's the same lad who was talking to the police woman.

 

[David O'Day]

PSB group said it was a wooden stick or some sort of pole that was found on in the ally way. they were there

I've already posted a picture of it, it's not a knife but for folk who don't read the other posts

 

[SBT]

I didn't say it did. It's just that you seem to have only mentioned certain parts.

Good job I asked the telegraph to update their story else you wouldn't have even known a knife was found.

You keep saying there is nothing to say they had a knife, multiple city fans saw them with a knife, people were panicking and shouting they have a knife, a knife was found where they ran to.

It's not comparible to a random woman who knows nothing about it, knows nobody who was there or even knows who CCFC are saying they are innocent and it was a racist attack.

We're both only mentioning certain parts of the story! Tons of people on here are falling over themselves over a knife found in a bin; then there's just me pointing out that nothing has been proven yet. It's called balance. I've never denied that the eyewitnesses may well be proved correct, and it's an important part of understanding what happened, but there's a good reason we don't convict people on eyewitness evidence alone. And I do think it's interesting how defensive people get when someone even dares suggest that things may not be as they seem.

And please drop your Telegraph obsession - I found out about the bin thing because you helpfully posted the police statement. By the time I read about it in the CT, it was in there too. I don't read it very often, because it's mostly crap. The fact you're one of those 'Points of View' types who writes in and complains about minute-by-minute coverage suggests you care a lot more about them than I do (though I highly doubt they added the detail on your suggestion)

 

[Nick]

We're both only mentioning certain parts of the story! Tons of people on here are falling over themselves over a knife found in a bin; then there's just me pointing out that nothing has been proven yet. It's called balance. I've never denied that the eyewitnesses may well be proved correct, and it's an important part of understanding what happened, but there's a good reason we don't convict people on eyewitness evidence alone. And I do think it's interesting how defensive people get when someone even dares suggest that things may not be as they seem.

And please drop your Telegraph obsession - I found out about the bin thing because you helpfully posted the police statement. By the time I read about it in the CT, it was in there too. I don't read it very often, because it's mostly crap. The fact you're one of those 'Points of View' types who writes in and complains about minute-by-minute coverage suggests you care a lot more them than I do (though I highly doubt they added the detail on your suggestion)

I didn't write in and complain, I asked a Telegraph reporter why yet again they were misleading people and missing out facts. As for Telegraph obsession, might be worth going through your post history.

You should probably try some balance at some point. You are the one that keeps saying "there may not have been a knife" and "people imagined it".

So, either they had a knife or it was planted. It's as simple as that.

 

[covcity4life]

I was being sarcastic given some of the shit SBT has been posting.
Also didn't want to assume that just because you're Sikh your mate was as well.

Well they are! Woukd never be friends with white person! Now stop being racist

 

[Liquid Gold]

I can't believe people in Cov still rock around in full tracksuits.

 

[oscillatewildly]

Sure it wasn't a cat?

I hope so - We have a 'rep' to uphold.

 

[David O'Day]

We're both only mentioning certain parts of the story! Tons of people on here are falling over themselves over a knife found in a bin; then there's just me pointing out that nothing has been proven yet. It's called balance. I've never denied that the eyewitnesses may well be proved correct, and it's an important part of understanding what happened, but there's a good reason we don't convict people on eyewitness evidence alone. And I do think it's interesting how defensive people get when someone even dares suggest that things may not be as they seem.

And please drop your Telegraph obsession - I found out about the bin thing because you helpfully posted the police statement. By the time I read about it in the CT, it was in there too. I don't read it very often, because it's mostly crap. The fact you're one of those 'Points of View' types who writes in and complains about minute-by-minute coverage suggests you care a lot more about them than I do (though I highly doubt they added the detail on your suggestion)

We do convict people on eye witness evidence alone, in fact lots of people are.

Wow