Covkid1968#
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If there aren’t any restaurants in Cov open to see him coming out of .. how can we verify these rumours .
Callum O Hare (3 Viewers)
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The striker thing was just a throwaway comment. I love O’Hare I think he’s class I just wanted to look at it another way. The numbers are poor for a no.10 but as we know he brings so much more to the team. Hopefully Villa and other teams look at his numbers and don’t fancy him.
He is one of those players always buzzing about annoying defenders making things happen which creates space for others and he was improving every game too
Nonleagueherewecome
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Heck of an impact player off the bench if not starting too, makes things happen.
Roger Mellie
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Depends how you look at stats, and they don’t often tell the true picture.
O’Hare terrorising a tiring defence allows us to expose other areas too. And it’s no coincidence that we scored a lot of late winners I think. Ryan Kent was another example. His stats were rubbish, but my god, he stretched teams and they had to double and triple up on him because of his pace. We were a much poorer team after he left, and if he had stayed for the full season, I think we would have been promoted back then. Sometimes you have to see it outside of the stats to understand the influence and value of a player.
O’Hare terrorising a tiring defence allows us to expose other areas too. And it’s no coincidence that we scored a lot of late winners I think. Ryan Kent was another example. His stats were rubbish, but my god, he stretched teams and they had to double and triple up on him because of his pace. We were a much poorer team after he left, and if he had stayed for the full season, I think we would have been promoted back then. Sometimes you have to see it outside of the stats to understand the influence and value of a player.
fernandopartridge
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Not really. I love O’Hare and sing his praises more than anyone. Just pointed out that the stats don’t back it up. How you can be clueless for repeating a stat and asking a question I’ll never know.
stay_up_skyblues
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Absolute sense. And Callum’s run in the team I recall corresponded with Godden and Walsh’s good form.
Agreed. I wonder if the statisticians have much better indications of attacking influence. Key contributions to goal scoring opportunities maybe.
shmmeee
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Parked in the queue for Maccys drive through.
cc84cov
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I’ll admit it took me a while to get on the O’Hare bandwagon but I feel he was just about to become a regular starter for us the lad can then a game in its head in a split second also his work rate I felt was absolutely brilliant for a young loan player,
fantastic little player if he does come and does well in the championship who knows how much he could end up moving on for.
fantastic little player if he does come and does well in the championship who knows how much he could end up moving on for.
fernandopartridge
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Because the stats are a pretty facile assessment imo
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David O'Day
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Exactly, he was really great at breaking the line and then sliding someone through who would then try and play the final ball. This doesn't show in teh stats.
I blame baseball for the amount of people who knock one of over "stats"
TomRad85
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Chances created would be a better one. For assists you are relying on the strikers to finish off your pass/cross/whatever to boost your stat.
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eastwoodsdustman
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He just put teams on the back foot with his running when he came on. We seemed to play a bit higher up the pitch when he came on.
Right yeah so refer to a stat you hear on a podcast and you’re clueless. Despite the fact it seems you agree with my opinion...
SkyBlueDom26
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Just hope this don’t turn into another bright situation with his agent trying to get him the best deal based on cash
Sky Blue Pete
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Bright was a bit greedy by all accounts
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Yep the 'Moneyball' effect.
Some people don't seem to realise that a flowing game like football has far more nuances than the stop/start nature of most American sports. Stats may show someone runs around loads and appears very energetic, but be totally ineffectual compared to someone who runs less but has great positional sense. Similary with pass completion - it needs to be taken into account what type of pass they're making. If it's always sideways/backwards (Stephen Hughes/Clingan) then it'll look good, but it totally stifles attacking ability and breaks and can actually cost a lot of goals/chances compared to someone with a lower percentage but who tries to do more.
That for me is why scouting will always be as valuable as stats analysis in games like footbll.