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skybluesteve76

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How did McCormack make a mistake, he new he was pissed in charge of a vehicle surely?! That's not a mistake, that's a general middle finger to the law and to his and everyone else's safety! So a mistake it certainly wasn't, he knew exactly what he was doing and for that reason he should still be inside. In my opinion it should be a life for a life. So then he'd never have the choice to get back to his luxury pampered lifestyle! Remorse or not, the justice system has badly failed that family, they haven't got the choice as to whether they see the deceased again or not. He deserves all the stick he gets.
 

Otis

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How did McCormack make a mistake, he new he was pissed in charge of a vehicle surely?! That's not a mistake, that's a general middle finger to the law and to his and everyone else's safety! So a mistake it certainly wasn't, he knew exactly what he was doing and for that reason he should still be inside. In my opinion it should be a life for a life. So then he'd never have the choice to get back to his luxury pampered lifestyle! Remorse or not, the justice system has badly failed that family, they haven't got the choice as to whether they see the deceased again or not. He deserves all the stick he gets.

You never had too much to drink and not been able to think straight?
 

Otis

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You are very unique then if you have never in your life ever had too much to drink and not be able to think clearly.

And I think you will find it it was not murder.
 

Houchens Head

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Just read the very long post by SkyBlueSwiss. Thought I was listening to a church sermon (not that I've been inside a church for about 40 odd years!). We all have opinions here mate, mine differ from yours. I'm about the same age as you. If you read earlier posts you will see that my family also suffered at the hands of a pissed up bastard. I'm not religious either, but I still wish the driver who caused mayhem in my family, the most shite life ever, never forgetting what he did, living with it every day until he burns in hell (if there's such a place).
Incidently, I also lost a son (aged just over a week). At the time the hospital were unaware of diabetes problems incurred during my (ex) wifes pregnancy. My son died as a result - he had also contracted diabetes, but in no way could I blame Walsgrave. They just simply didn't know. This happened in 1977, long before many of todays medical checks were put into place. Whereas Luke McCormick, and the drunk who killed my sister, had a choice. Drink and drive or drink and not drive or simply no drink. The options were there.
And as for calling McCormick "a silly youth who's bad mistake caused so much damage" is totally outrageous! What planet are you on?
I'm sick of the "do-gooders" in this world. That's why the country is in such a shite state! Forgive and forget? You're joking!
 

skybluesteve76

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You are very unique then if you have never in your life ever had too much to drink and not be able to think clearly.

And I think you will find it it was not murder.

I'm very unique because I've never killed someone by drink driving and falling asleep at the wheel? If that's the case im glad I'm unique.
Why would you defend this man? It's unforgivable what he did.
We all have decisions to make in life, he made one that paid the ultimate consequences. Those two boys will never grow up to have a chance at the life that he has.
 

skybluesteve76

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Just read the very long post by SkyBlueSwiss. Thought I was listening to a church sermon (not that I've been inside a church for about 40 odd years!). We all have opinions here mate, mine differ from yours. I'm about the same age as you. If you read earlier posts you will see that my family also suffered at the hands of a pissed up bastard. I'm not religious either, but I still wish the driver who caused mayhem in my family, the most shite life ever, never forgetting what he did, living with it every day until he burns in hell (if there's such a place).
Incidently, I also lost a son (aged just over a week). At the time the hospital were unaware of diabetes problems incurred during my (ex) wifes pregnancy. My son died as a result - he had also contracted diabetes, but in no way could I blame Walsgrave. They just simply didn't know. This happened in 1977, long before many of todays medical checks were put into place. Whereas Luke McCormick, and the drunk who killed my sister, had a choice. Drink and drive or drink and not drive or simply no drink. The options were there.
And as for calling McCormick "a silly youth who's bad mistake caused so much damage" is totally outrageous! What planet are you on?
I'm sick of the "do-gooders" in this world. That's why the country is in such a shite state! Forgive and forget? You're joking!

Brilliantly put.
 

skybluesteve76

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SkyBlueSwiss - I know you weren't looking for sympathy, but I'm sure you have it from everyone on this forum.

Very good of you to put your thoughts in here - I agree with pretty much all of that.

I think he maybe should of sued the arse off everyone responsible!
 

Otis

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I'm very unique because I've never killed someone by drink driving and falling asleep at the wheel? If that's the case im glad I'm unique.
Why would you defend this man? It's unforgivable what he did.
We all have decisions to make in life, he made one that paid the ultimate consequences. Those two boys will never grow up to have a chance at the life that he has.

Please show me where I have defended him. :thinking about:

And my question was have you ever drank too much and not been able to think clearly and you answered 'no.'
 

Astute

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Please show me where I have defended him. :thinking about:

And my question was have you ever drank too much and not been able to think clearly and you answered 'no.'

I have never got pissed and then driven a dangerous motor vehicle if that is what you mean.

Did he go to the wedding and accidently drink alcohol? Did he accidently not book a room? Did he accidently forget he had to be somewhere?

He was twice over the limit. To me that is sober enough to make decisions like driving or not. Sober enough to decide to get a taxi or not. He could afford to get one. Certainly not sober enough to drive at over 100mph though.
 

Macca

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As long as we remember that the rights of the offender are more important than the victims then we can t possibly go wrong
 

Otis

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I have never got pissed and then driven a dangerous motor vehicle if that is what you mean.

Did he go to the wedding and accidently drink alcohol? Did he accidently not book a room? Did he accidently forget he had to be somewhere?

He was twice over the limit. To me that is sober enough to make decisions like driving or not. Sober enough to decide to get a taxi or not. He could afford to get one. Certainly not sober enough to drive at over 100mph though.

No, that's not what I mean. I mean alcohol clouds your judgement. Lost count the amount of times I have had to talk people out of driving when over the limit. Their judgement becomes clouded and they fail to think rationally or clearly.

That's what I mean.
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
I think we should put this thread to bed now. Its run it's course and peoples feelings are running high (mine are anyway).
I think we can all agree that we won't agree on how we feel about the outcome of this case.
I've always accepted that other people have opinions, so I won't judge posters who feel different to me. Just want to say thanks for supportive messages that I received regarding my own personal story, albiet many years ago.
 

Astute

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I think we should put this thread to bed now. Its run it's course and peoples feelings are running high (mine are anyway).
I think we can all agree that we won't agree on how we feel about the outcome of this case.
I've always accepted that other people have opinions, so I won't judge posters who feel different to me. Just want to say thanks for supportive messages that I received regarding my own personal story, albiet many years ago.

I agree. Those of us with personal experiences will always feel differently.

Take it easy mate. Get prepared for when I pay you a visit in a couple of months. Look forward to having a good natter and hopefully a day out to a place where we have never been before ;)
 

skyblu3sk

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Cheers all, Will knock this one on the head now. I'm sure it will raise up again if we do actually get linked with him...
 
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