Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (135 Viewers)

[fernandopartridge]

Contact tracers in England get no data from 26% of people with coronavirus

World class from the 1st of June

Some tweets from the chair of the C&W STP saying that basically local authorities have taken it upon themselves now in the absence of central govt.



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[chiefdave]

Some tweets from the chair of the C&W STP saying that basically local authorities have taken it upon themselves now in the absence of central govt.



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That works out at an average of 8.7 contacts per case. By comparison in New Zealand they have traced and contacted over 300 people from the two people from the UK who tested positive and they were advised to minimise contact with people as they were allowed out under a compassionate exemptions to the quarantine rules.

Also seems that those two cases are enough for NZ to deem that their system wasn't strict enough. The military will now be overseeing the quarantine sites and exemptions no longer allowed.

 

[chiefdave]

These are the people in charge. How is anyone supposed to have any confidence?

 

[Paul Anthony]

These are the people in charge. How is anyone supposed to have any confidence?

Putting the cherry on Dido's cake is all well good. But, he'd best remember. You can't have your cake and eat it....

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Great news, let’s fucking hope it does pay off

 

[skybluetony176]

Great news, let’s fucking hope it does pay off

Old news. I linked an article to this week’s ago and in turn that article was already weeks old. Just something for the idiots to tell the idiots so the idiots can get excited about so they can think the government are doing a great job because they’re clueless.

 

[David O'Day]

Old news. I linked an article to this week’s ago and in turn that article was already weeks old. Just something for the idiots to tell the idiots so the idiots can get excited about so they can think the government are doing a great job because they’re clueless.

Is this the vaccine that doesn't give immunity but reduces the seriousness of the virus in people who do get it?

If so we spoke about this 2 weeks ago

 

[skybluetony176]

Is this the vaccine that doesn't give immunity but reduces the seriousness of the virus in people who do get it?

If so we spoke about this 2 weeks ago

I don’t think they even know if it does that yet. It’s being made in anticipation that it might do something.

 

[clint van damme]

These are the people in charge. How is anyone supposed to have any confidence?

Anyone who listened to the talk talk enquiry would know that woman should have not been anywhere near this project.

Still, I'm sure she's pocketed a few Bob of our money.

 

[chiefdave]

Hope the news that hospital admissions have increased to 490 from 458 on the same day last week is just a blip.

 

[Paul Anthony]

Anyone who listened to the talk talk enquiry would know that woman should have not been anywhere near this project.

Still, I'm sure she's pocketed a few Bob of our money.

As a customer of Talk Talk while she was the CEO, I fully concur. Its no surprise this has developed into the farce it has. Another case of it being who you know, not what you know.

 

[Sky_Blue_Daz]

Could or should a more stringent lockdown protocol be put in place during the autum/ winter as a precautionary measure should a vaccine not be found or if there is a slow rise in cases again

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Old news. I linked an article to this week’s ago and in turn that article was already weeks old. Just something for the idiots to tell the idiots so the idiots can get excited about so they can think the government are doing a great job because they’re clueless.

Absolute bollocks once again from you, they aren’t doing it to make people think they are doing a job, they are saying it to inform us on the progression.....any news will never be good news to you

Deluded

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Absolute bollocks once again from you, they aren’t doing it to make people think they are doing a job, they are saying it to inform us on the progression.....any news will never be good news to you

Deluded

What do you think of them making a vaccine that hasn't been approved yet? Not having a go just curious

 

[chiefdave]

Absolute bollocks once again from you, they aren’t doing it to make people think they are doing a job, they are saying it to inform us on the progression.....any news will never be good news to you

Deluded

from 5th June: Coronavirus: manufacturing begins on 'millions of doses' of the Oxford vaccine candidate

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

What do you think of them making a vaccine that hasn't been approved yet? Not having a go just curious

So that when it hopefully gets approved they can get it out straight away? Common sense isn’t it?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

from 5th June: Coronavirus: manufacturing begins on 'millions of doses' of the Oxford vaccine candidate

And how does that make the government look good as tony would say

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So that when it hopefully gets approved they can get it out straight away? Common sense isn’t it?

Because if it's not passed or needs to be altered it's a big waste of money, raw materials and brainpower.

 

[chiefdave]

And how does that make the government look good as tony would say

Tony's point, unless I've got it wrong, was that they've dragged up an old 'good news' story today to try and distract from their track and trace disaster.

 

[clint van damme]

So that when it hopefully gets approved they can get it out straight away? Common sense isn’t it?

Common sense would be when setting up track and trace to use a proven, readily available app instead of giving the contract to a company headed up by the person responsible for the biggest data breach (es) in the country's history but we went with the latter option.

I can't help but suspect they'll be a similar vaccine related fuck up.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Common sense would be when setting up track and trace to use a proven, readily available app instead of giving the contract to a company headed up by the person responsible for the biggest data breach (es) in the country's history but we went with the latter option.

I can't help but suspect they'll be a similar vaccine related fuck up.

To be fair, AZ are more than reliable enough to take on the job of producing it but I don't agree with rushing it before it's even been approved.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

So that when it hopefully gets approved they can get it out straight away? Common sense isn’t it?

And if it doesn't?

 

[David O'Day]

Because if it's not passed or needs to be altered it's a big waste of money, raw materials and brainpower.

and as stated it shows it's old fucking news

 

[chiefdave]

To be fair, AZ are more than reliable enough to take on the job of producing it but I don't agree with rushing it before it's even been approved.

You would hope that this isn't just wishful thinking and there is a good chance the vaccine will work. How much is being spent on production before we know if it works?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

It is, they keep bleating on about the money they are pumping in to keep the economy afloat but they are fucking it with their incompetence.

If they'd been even half competent they wouldn't have needed to spend as much money. Still needed to spend a lot but not as much. Plus we all know who'll be the ones that have to take the cuts when they want it paying back.

 

[skybluetony176]

Absolute bollocks once again from you, they aren’t doing it to make people think they are doing a job, they are saying it to inform us on the progression.....any news will never be good news to you

Deluded

It was good news. Two weeks ago when I first heard about it. It’s just old news now. Unless you’re easily duped.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

If the UK is still intact by 2030 it'll be a miracle

Hurrah! It's now 2032 and the UK is still intact. Miracles do indeed happen!

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

So that when it hopefully gets approved they can get it out straight away? Common sense isn’t it?

Or conversely if it doesn't they've wasted loads of money on something useless. Like the track and trace app. So let's look at why that was approved. Whatever reason it certainly wasn't a case of looking after their mates.

 

[skybluetony176]

And how does that make the government look good as tony would say

Do you really need someone to explain to you why this government is full of idiots after 40000 deaths brought around by the highest death rate in the world. Surely it’s self explanatory.

 

[skybluetony176]

Tony's point, unless I've got it wrong, was that they've dragged up an old 'good news' story today to try and distract from their track and trace disaster.

Exactly.

 

[clint van damme]

Exactly.

Why didn't they drag up a story about PPE, Oh yeah, they fucked that up.

Why didn't they drag up a story about lock down, Oh yeah, they fucked that up.

Why didn't they drag up a story about protecting the rights of immigrants working for the NHS on the front line, Oh yeah, they fucked that up.

Why didn't they drag up a story about how they protected care homes, Oh yeah they fucked that up.

 

[David O'Day]

To be fair, AZ are more than reliable enough to take on the job of producing it but I don't agree with rushing it before it's even been approved.

And the Oxford University Virology dept is one of the best in the world. The issue is it is still very much at testing as it was weeks ago when it was first mentioned.

If the 2nd round of testing is promising then maybe but they will still need to test further. Unless they are doing away with the 3rd part the next step would be to let other research departments around the world conduct controlled testing to see if they get the same results.

 

[chiefdave]

Unless they are doing away with the 3rd part the next step would be to let other research departments around the world conduct controlled testing to see if they get the same results.

They've merged phase 2 and phase 3 into one trial to speed things up.

 

[David O'Day]

They've merged phase 2 and phase 3 into one trial to speed things up.

So it'll take longer to do stage 2 then as they'll have multiple studies to compare to the original stage results.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

They've merged phase 2 and phase 3 into one trial to speed things up.

Hmmm. I know it might delay things, but personally I'd be happier if they followed usual process.