Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (52 Viewers)

[Deleted member 5849]

But I don’t get how combining the stages to try and end a world pandemic as early as possible could be bad in any way? Like it has to be pushed quicker than anything else

If a scientific approach is there, it's there for a reason. We do, actually, have a world leading reputation in this kind of thing, and it's partly because our processes are defined and we don't rush things forward, we wait until we're sure.

But no, knock yourself out just because you want a pint.

 

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[Skybluefaz]

 

[Deleted member 5849]

There is no way the country would survive multiple lockdowns it just isn’t Possible

Which is the exact argument for not removing it too soon.

Farkin ell.

 

[skybluetony176]

Yeah but people on this thread aren’t saying a few months they are saying ‘years’


We can’t sit around for years or else the government would get slaughtered for that too

We won’t sit around for years, we’ll be going in and out of lockdowns. If the government can stop fucking around and get track and trace sorted them lockdowns only need to be localised instead of national. All the government has to do is reverse the multiple failings they’ve made so far and with personal common sense as a country can manage this virus as well as any other country has. If the government keeps getting it wrong on every aspect as they have so far we’re fucked and the government will have earned the criticism to go with the criticism that they’ve already earned.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Great news that is

if they told you it was now safe to go stroke a hungry lion, would that be great news too

 

[skybluetony176]

if they told you it was now safe to go stroke a hungry lion, would that be great news too

It is if you’re a manufacturer or prosthetic limbs.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

if they told you it was now safe to go stroke a hungry lion, would that be great news too

Nah I’m just glad we’ve gone from 4-3 like anybody else should be? Fucking weird of you not to think that

 

[PVA]

The levels are absolute bollocks.

The R number has been below 1 for how long so why have we been at 4 for so long?

Why are the things in Levels 2 and 1 already happening if we are only just moving to 3, nevermind 2 or 1?

Absolute bollocks. Making it up as they go along.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Nah I’m just glad we’ve gone from 4-3 like anybody else should be? Fucking weird of you not to think that

We haven't gone from anything to anything. We are miles behind other places. They have just told you that one made up number has changed to another made up number because they want people like you to go mental spending money. Lethal virus still not being controlled but someone tells you "its ok, we've decided to call today '3' instead of '4' so go back to normal" and you lap it up- amazing.

Your call, however you're pretty dumb by blindly accepting everything the most dishonest govt of all time tell you.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Yes it is a problem though! So fine the testing all works and it’s approved! Then we’ll have to wait weeks/months for it to be scaled up and available to use.....thankfully the government are making it so that once it hopefully gets approved it will be straight away given to those that most need it


It’s crazy what you are suggesting, basically that if one works we’ll then have to wait months for it to be scaled up to give the public

But you're working on the assumption it WILL work. Why don't we just mass produce every drug on the planet in case one of them proves effective? What if they'd mass produced hydroxychloroquine so it was ready for everybody after the trials only to find that it's totally ineffective? At least that could've actually them been used by donating it to Africa as part of the aid budget to fight malaria.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

But I don’t get how combining the stages to try and end a world pandemic as early as possible could be bad in any way? Like it has to be pushed quicker than anything else

Because the whole point of the testing is to ensure safety and effectiveness. Why would you cut corners on the most important parts of the process in ensuring you've got a good treatment.

It's like saying I don't understand why throwing water on a chip pan fire to put it out could be bad in any way.

 

[David O'Day]

People do realise the defcon style covid-19 style means fuck all right?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

All disrespect

I'm not sure he can eat and breath at the the same time

Can anyone? You can chew and breath but eating and breathing is impossible due to the way the oesophagus and windpipe are joined.

 

[David O'Day]

Can anyone? You can chew and breath but eating and breathing is impossible due to the way the oesophagus and windpipe are joined.

Bet you're fun at parties Nigel.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

So the Covid alert level has been reduced from 4 to 3.

Does this mean we expect to see further relaxation of social distancing measures?

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[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

But we aren’t in a position to wait years for that? We can’t have lockdowns every 6 months for 2/3 years

But we can potentially have a huge amounts of deaths from an unsafe 'cure' that was given out because testing had been rushed? Still, worth it if the pubs can open eh?

 

[Skybluefaz]

So the Covid alert level has been reduced from 4 to 3.

Does this mean we expect to see further relaxation of social distancing measures?

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I think they've already done the ones that were supposed to happen when we went from 4 to 3. Plus a few extra. You know, 'guided by the science'.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

There is no way the country would survive multiple lockdowns it just isn’t Possible

But that just shows that the way we choose to live isn't robust enough and needs to change to be more flexible.

It isn't those animals which are the strongest or cleverest that survive and thrive, it's those most adaptable to change. This is showing we're not adaptable to change so we need to seriously rethink how we go about things. First place to look is the obsession with the economy and how it operates. Make that more flexible and our ability to survive lockdowns and future problems improves massively.

 

[PVA]

So the Covid alert level has been reduced from 4 to 3.

Does this mean we expect to see further relaxation of social distancing measures?

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Probably, although half the things we have relaxed already weren't supposed to have been done until levels 2 or 1.

Presumably this means Boris will do the briefing tonight, as this reducing of the level is good news and we know Boris only does good news these days.

 

[David O'Day]

But we can potentially have a huge amounts of deaths from an unsafe 'cure' that was given out because testing had been rushed? Still, worth it if the pubs can open eh?

Who knows with this Government. Level 3 is the level were they say we can start to see gradual loosening of the restrictions but restrictions are loosened already.

 

[Ian1779]

The levels are absolute bollocks.

The R number has been below 1 for how long so why have we been at 4 for so long?

Why are the things in Levels 2 and 1 already happening if we are only just moving to 3, nevermind 2 or 1?

Absolute bollocks. Making it up as they go along.

If they came out and said they were adjusting the guidance and actions at each level due to further information and scientific evidence you could kind of understand it as it’s an ever changing scenario - but it’s just more on the hoof thinking.

Just be clear and upfront - it’s not difficult.

 

[Saddlebrains]

Bad news for everyone shouting about the imaginary second wave

 

[hill83]

But that just shows that the way we choose to live isn't robust enough and needs to change to be more flexible.

It isn't those animals which are the strongest or cleverest that survive and thrive, it's those most adaptable to change. This is showing we're not adaptable to change so we need to seriously rethink how we go about things. First place to look is the obsession with the economy and how it operates. Make that more flexible and our ability to survive lockdowns and future problems improves massively.

Not really though. Survival of the fittest etc. The weak die off. Maybe that's been the plan all along.

 

[David O'Day]

Bad news for everyone shouting about the imaginary second wave

Imaginary?

You have been following the news?

Tinfoil c**t

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Not really though. Survival of the fittest etc. The weak die off. Maybe that's been the plan all along.

On an objective level that's exactly what nature wants to do. We're overpopulated, so it's trying to compensate,

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Bad news for everyone shouting about the imaginary second wave

What is? the fact that because we've all been sat at home not infecting one another, there's less infections?

 

[PVA]

Bad news for everyone shouting about the imaginary second wave

The government easing it's arbitrary and frankly made up threat level does not make a second wave imaginary or less likely.

 

[Ian1779]

Bad news for everyone shouting about the imaginary second wave

Yeah because the threat of a second wave has dropped now they’ve moved to the next part of the PowerPoint.

 

[David O'Day]

Yeah because the threat of a second wave has dropped now they’ve moved to the next part of the PowerPoint.

Exactly, it's a scale that doesn't really exist outside of a graphic designers hard drive

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Not really though. Survival of the fittest etc. The weak die off. Maybe that's been the plan all along.

Short term and on an individual basis yes. Long term and on a wider scale it's about adaptability. Loads of species are declining not because they're not weeding out the weak but because they can't adapt to the changing environment around them.

 

[Saddlebrains]

Imaginary?

You have been following the news?

Tinfoil c**t

Now now, no need to swear because things arent going your way

 

[David O'Day]

Now now, no need to swear because things arent going your way

Aren't going my way? It's not a game you spoon.

But please watch the news cases are rising all over the world. You sound like a vaccine truther.

 

[Saddlebrains]

whys everyone so obsessed with a 'second wave?'

Anyone that points out that its not nailed on is given dogs abuse. Eg myself.

Spanish flu was an influenza. Not a coronavirus. The science shows this was in Europe transmitting in December. The 8× higher 'flu' and 4x higher 'pneumonia' rates here from December and Jan also show that.

We've had fucking thousands of people alltogether, and no second spike has taken place. Add onto that the amount of people who frankly dont care anymore that have more than 6 people round or go to someones house etc. And whats happened? Its still dropping.

Ve day. People swarming over beaches. The first lot of BLM protests 3 weeks ago.

Always 'well this is the second wave' but it doesnt happen.

If you want to believe its nailed on sound.

If you dont, like me, then sound.

No need for everyone to shit themselves and name call is there?

 

[David O'Day]

A walking talking study in confirmation bias

 

[PVA]