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TomRad85 said:
My name is definitely Tom, just to confirm.

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Are you rad, cool, and awesome... or just have a love of radiators?
 
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TomRad85 said:
Ironically I'm not a fan, unless its chopped up small and other ingredients overpower the taste. Just FYI if you were planning on cooking for me some time.

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Guess I won't be buying you a 'Big Tom' any time soon.
 
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Nick said:
It's turned homo erotic
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I prefer Homer erotic

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Ring Of Steel

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
I prefer Homer erotic

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Probably said this before, but the first time I met up with anyone from GMK we just said "we'll meet by the East Stand Bar at 7pm", thought that would be easy enough. Got there and there were of course hundreds of people around, so sort of hung around trying to see if anyone was blatantly looking for someone. The only person that kept hanging around in such a way was a huge bloke randomly wearing a weightlifting belt & looking totally hammered. Thought better of it and went on my way- it wasn't 'him' as it turned out, but for a while I really questioned what kind of people were behind these usernames on screen.
 
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Ring Of Steel said:
Probably said this before, but the first time I met up with anyone from GMK we just said "we'll meet by the East Stand Bar at 7pm", thought that would be easy enough. Got there and there were of course hundreds of people around, so sort of hung around trying to see if anyone was blatantly looking for someone. The only person that kept hanging around in such a way was a huge bloke randomly wearing a weightlifting belt & looking totally hammered. Thought better of it and went on my way- it wasn't 'him' as it turned out, but for a while I really questioned what kind of people were behind these usernames on screen.
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Would certainly be nice to put some names to faces.
 
shmmeee

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Nick said:
There is a problem, of course there is. There isn't that much of a discussion about it though.

Which is why politics should have been kept out of it.

Im starting to think it would be better just to force groups of people from different races and backgrounds to go to the pub for a pint and an open chat which would be a massive eye opener for "normal" people, regardless of race. (ie people who can have a discussion without wanting to make everything about politics.)
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Completely agree. It should be something everyone can get behind as well, the right always want immigrants to integrate (as do I) the left want a reduction in racism.

It’s one reason I have a real problem with both special religious schools and schools that become de facto one race or another like Stringer for example. It’s also why I’m against homogenous new housing estates, lack of social housing and private schools. Society works best when we’re all in it together rubbing shoulders not say in bubbles throwing rocks over the internet or rumours in the pub.
 
chiefdave

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dubed said:
St Albans Cathedral altar to display 'A Last Supper' depicting a black Jesus

Appreciate it's behind a paywall, so an extract:

"Dr Jeffrey John, the Dean of St Albans Cathedral in Hertfordshire, agreed to install the 9ft artwork following pressure from Black Lives Matter activists.

It also comes a week after the Church of England’s most senior figure, the Archbishop of Canterbury, called for a “rethink” regarding the portrayal of Jesus as white."

Absolutely fair point and one long understood. But of course part of the way to get a system of thought into a culture is to usurp that culture in surreptitious ways, such as presenting a God as a person of a certain race, the appropriation of a culture's spiritual holidays such as 'Easter/Eostre' and Winter Solistice, and putting pagan symbols on churches. I'd like somebody to blame for that, please.
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Was going to post saying shouldn't he be portrayed as Middle Eastern not black but thought maybe that was the plan and it was just the Telegraph trying to stir things up. Quick google and this came up "Lorna May Wadsworth instead paints Christ as Jamaican-born model Tafari Hinds", seems a bit odd to me.
 
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I took the work to be a thought-provoking/culture challenging piece rather than laying down a claim. The article acknowledges that the obvious chances are that Jesus was Middle Eastern in appearance. And I'm certainly not calling him big-nosed.

btw, there's some nice little apps to assist with paywall 'papers' if you use Chrome, or so I'm told.
 
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Nick said:
The ex Wolves player Karl Henry sums it up:

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I agree, but you all know if they do that the same people that are corrupting BLM will end up corrupting whatever new one turns up just by linking themselves to it.

It just ends up going round in circles and nothing happens.
 
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Ian1779 said:
We should all send a pic to Nick and then he can add to a new thread and we can all guess who is who!
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Could start of with the faces obscured and every week people vote to who is uncovered.

'The Masked Whinger'
 
shmmeee

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I agree, but you all know if they do that the same people that are corrupting BLM will end up corrupting whatever new one turns up just by linking themselves to it.

It just ends up going round in circles and nothing happens.
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Progress is messy. You could look at any successful protest movement in history and find abhorrent acts and dodgy ideas. That’s because it’s a fall back system when democracy isn’t working how it should. Not everything has to be neat and perfect to be effective and expecting it to be is just a way of nullifying protest movements. Whether people realise that’s what they’re doing or not. These same people would’ve been against the MLK marches and the Suffragettes if they were consistent.
 
Nick

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Presenters on Sky have stopped wearing the badges.

I think the Kick it out stuff should be pushed, I know it's aimed at kick it out of football but use that to educate people.
 
1nilandwe...

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shmmeee said:
Progress is messy. You could look at any successful protest movement in history and find abhorrent acts and dodgy ideas. That’s because it’s a fall back system when democracy isn’t working how it should. Not everything has to be neat and perfect to be effective and expecting it to be is just a way of nullifying protest movements. Whether people realise that’s what they’re doing or not. These same people would’ve been against the MLK marches and the Suffragettes if they were consistent.
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I think this really is the crux of it. If we wait around for progress that is pure and perfect and aligns exactly with our own sentiments, nothing will ever happen. If you go to the ballot box on voting day hoping to vote for the perfect candidate in the perfect party who represents you and your ideology with no concerns, you are going to be very disappointed. The BLM movement is not perfect. No political protest or organisation ever is. However, it's direction of travel is correct (IMO). And it is perfectly legitimate to support BLM and criticize some of it's actions or members at the same time, in exactly the same way you can criticize whichever political party you vote for if you don't agree with some of the things they are doing.

If you're going to catch a bus, you catch a bus that's going closest to where you want to go.
 
shmmeee

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1nilandwe... said:
I think this really is the crux of it. If we wait around for progress that is pure and perfect and aligns exactly with our own sentiments, nothing will ever happen. If you go to the ballot box on voting day hoping to vote for the perfect candidate in the perfect party who represents you and your ideology with no concerns, you are going to be very disappointed. The BLM movement is not perfect. No political protest or organisation ever is. However, it's direction of travel is correct (IMO). And it is perfectly legitimate to support BLM and criticize some of it's actions or members at the same time, in exactly the same way you can criticize whichever political party you vote for if you don't agree with some of the things they are doing.

If you're going to catch a bus, you catch a bus that's going closest to where you want to go.
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Love the bus analogy.
 
Nick

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You don't have to get the bus, you can just get in your car and figure out things for yourself. You don't have to jump on bandwagons.

I'm not sure that if you want progress and change you have to "support" BlackLivesMatter at all. People are starting to see that, especially when the true colours keep coming out of what it's all about.

It hasn't really been much more than a front to divide people even more, the point about equality has been completely lost and forgotten about.

The Premier League are back tracking and saying "They dont support the politics of BLM" even though they had their logo plastered over everything.
 
shmmeee

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Nick said:
You don't have to get the bus, you can just get in your car and figure out things for yourself. You don't have to jump on bandwagons.

I'm not sure that if you want progress and change you have to "support" BlackLivesMatter at all. People are starting to see that, especially when the true colours keep coming out of what it's all about.

It hasn't really been much more than a front to divide people even more, the point about equality has been completely lost and forgotten about.
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I don’t think so, Inthink you’re focusing on a few examples from the fringes.

As for the bus, good luck getting social change on your own. Some things need a movement of likeminded people.
 
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shmmeee said:
I don’t think so, Inthink you’re focusing on a few examples from the fringes.

As for the bus, good luck getting social change on your own. Some things need a movement of likeminded people.
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Wouldn't say I was that like minded with the BLM stuff to be honest, of course I want equality but it's a bit more than that they push and has been from the start.

Not focusing on examples from the fringes at all, I am pointing out the core.
 
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