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[Ian1779]

Ok here is one that had never really thought of to be honest.

Porn is racist. Discuss.

Just floating a thought... if people are sexually attracted to brunettes or black girls for example you could argue that comes from some kind of natural instinct. So does that mean we are ‘programmed’ to be racist IF they were accurate?

 

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[Nick]

Ok here is one that had never really thought of to be honest.

Porn is racist. Discuss.

Is it ageist to have a milf category?

The irony is that they are all offended about that, yet the next video is "does dick size matter".

Ok then.

 

[Nick]

Just floating a thought... if people are sexually attracted to brunettes or black girls for example you could argue that comes from some kind of natural instinct. So does that mean we are ‘programmed’ to be racist IF they were accurate?

What if they like midgets?

It's madness.

 

[Ian1779]

Patriotic is supposed to be loving your country, not hating part of it. I consider myself patriotic but I want nothing to do with twats like this.

Thinking of the pricks that do Nazi salutes yet carry Union Jacks and wear poppies.

 

[Ian1779]

What if they like midgets?

It's madness.

I believe it’s now called vertically challenged porn.

 

[Nick]

Thinking of the pricks that do Nazi salutes yet carry Union Jacks and wear poppies.

I want to search for Nazi porn now.

 

[AVWskyblue]

Sexual desire full stop is often racist. Is that wrong? Is it worse than me not liking blonde girls?

What!!! You don't like blonde girls???
Seek medical help at the earliest opportunity


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[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

The bloke is an idiot - great story he’s black and his mate is white and his mate gets stopped. Why does anyone waste their time with these idiots

What kind of idiot pretends that they are black just because they think it somehow gives them more clout?
Someone desperately sad, who lacks any sense of identity , and who thinks everyone else won't notice.
Is he Irish or English or doesn't he really know that either ?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I don’t think anyone is disputing any of that but all the major European countries had empires and most of them stretching to all four corners of the globe, all taken by force, all dealt in slavery, all raped and pillaged, all killed in huge numbers. To suggest that it’s a little gem as Grendull did is just ignorance. And there’s been some storming wars as left overs from it, you could argue that the Gulf Wars are a left over, numerous wars in Africa certainly and the big one has to be the Vietnam war which also triggered horrific wars in Cambodia and Laos.

You have to take the good with the bad. Those empires did also do some amazing things. But it can't be glossed over that many of those things were possible due to some abhorrent practices and views. Slavery may well be the biggest but attitudes and treatment of women, children and the poor were also exploited.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Ok here is one that had never really thought of to be honest.

Porn is racist. Discuss.

I feel I need to 'educate' myself more on the issue so off to do some 'research'

I did read once that in the US at least the fee for an interracial scene is a fair bit higher than normal. Even more than to do some of the kinkier stuff.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Patriotic is supposed to be loving your country, not hating part of it. I consider myself patriotic but I want nothing to do with twats like this.

A lot of the far right mistake nationalism for patriotism.

Patriotism is wanting the best for your country and for it to be the best it can be and if it falls short of that you say so. Nationalism is refusing to believe your country is anything other than the best place in the world and anyone criticising any aspect of it hates it.

 

[Monners]

There is little point in engaging with someone who believes the majority of English people are deeply racist

Consider this gem:

"White europeans are the most murderous and genocidel race on earth with bloody fingerprints on every troubled area on the planet. We have butchered children, stolen wealth, colonised and raped everywhere and it continues now"

The guy needs medical help

Out of interest, did you look at the Michael Holding and Ebony Rainford - Brent interview (further up the thread) ?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

A lot of the far right mistake nationalism for patriotism.

Patriotism is wanting the best for your country and for it to be the best it can be and if it falls short of that you say so. Nationalism is refusing to believe your country is anything other than the best place in the world and anyone criticising any aspect of it hates it.

Exactly 100% spot on

I’m definitely a ‘hardcore nationalist’ when it comes to Cov, mind you- as it turns out it’s been easy going this season as the critics were proved massively wrong, it’s a tough gig most seasons though trying to rebut criticism

 

[Deleted member 4439]

I don’t think anyone is disputing any of that but all the major European countries had empires and most of them stretching to all four corners of the globe, all taken by force, all dealt in slavery, all raped and pillaged, all killed in huge numbers. To suggest that it’s a little gem as Grendull did is just ignorance. And there’s been some storming wars as left overs from it, you could argue that the Gulf Wars are a left over, numerous wars in Africa certainly and the big one has to be the Vietnam war which also triggered horrific wars in Cambodia and Laos.

I still don't see how this counters the point being made. We know that the major European countries were probably the last big colonial force, but they were only the last of the sods. My family very firmly goes back four generations to a Scottish Highlands clan and, frankly, I'm still waiting for disbursements to be made in recognition of the oppression inflicted on my race by the Romans, the Germans, the French, their bastardised Anglo-Saxon race, as well as of course that Scandinavian lot.

The caliphates were a bit tasty as well, weren't they?

 

[Deleted member 4439]

And don't even get me started on the Clearances...

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I feel I need to 'educate' myself more on the issue so off to do some 'research'

I did read once that in the US at least the fee for an interracial scene is a fair bit higher than normal. Even more than to do some of the kinkier stuff.

The association of black men with having big penises is probably the most racist part.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

The association of black men with having big penises is probably the most racist part.

Dion Dublin once famously got offended when Alex Ferguson commented on his ‘magnificent’ manhood... whether that was because he took it as racism or just plain rudeness I have no idea.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Dion Dublin once famously got offended when Alex Ferguson commented on his ‘magnificent’ manhood... whether that was because he took it as racism or just plain rudeness I have no idea.

It'#s why Staying Up was withdrawn from the club shop, too.

 

[Nick]

The association of black men with having big penises is probably the most racist part.

It's Chinese men that want to worry

 

[Grendel]

What kind of idiot pretends that they are black just because they think it somehow gives them more clout?
Someone desperately sad, who lacks any sense of identity , and who thinks everyone else won't notice.

Perhaps he’s an Al Jolson tribute act

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Racist abuse in football is real. A number of us have on occasions witnessed shocking, and deeply embarrassing, behaviour from our own 'fans'. But doesn't the below verge on the right not to be offended?

Wycombe's Adebayo Akinfenwa says he was racially abused during Monday's League One play-off match against Fleetwood.

The 38-year-old striker says he found out after the game that he was was referred to as a "fat water buffalo" by a representative from the opposition.

"I believe it dehumanises me as a black man by associating me to a water buffalo, a dark animal, in a derogatory manner," Akinfenwa said in a statement.

Adebayo Akinfenwa: Wycombe striker says he was racially abused in play-off tie

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Sexual desire full stop is often racist. Is that wrong? Is it worse than me not liking blonde girls?

It is in the current "anything goes" climate of racism, yes.

 

[skybluetony176]

Dion Dublin once famously got offended when Alex Ferguson commented on his ‘magnificent’ manhood... whether that was because he took it as racism or just plain rudeness I have no idea.

Linford Christie was offended under similar circumstances about the stereotype also. IIRC it was a tv advert for a newspaper after he’d won Olympic gold, something along the line of asking where he keeps his batteries while obviously referring to the outline of his penis in his Lycra running shorts.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Linford Christie was offended under similar circumstances about the stereotype also. IIRC it was a tv advert for a newspaper after he’d won Olympic gold, something along the line of asking where he keeps his batteries while obviously referring to the outline of his penis in his Lycra running shorts.

“Cutting an impressive figure in the witness box in a smart grey suit - a far cry from the form-hugging Lycra he sports on the track - he vented his feelings of "disgust" at newspaper references to "Linford Christie's lunchbox". It led to a bemused inquiry from the judge Mr Justice Popplewell: "What is Linford Christie's lunchbox?“ The athlete replied: "They are making a reference to my genitals your honour. I think it's disgusting.“ Mr Christie, at one time the fastest man in the world, went on: "I do not like it. Nobody ever mentions Sally Gunnell's attributes or anything like that. It's sexual discrimination. It's totally disgusting.“
(Birmingham Evening Mail 19/6/98)

“I felt humiliated. My first instinct was that it was racist. There we are, stereotyping a black man. I can take a good joke. But it happened the day after I won the greatest accolade an athlete can win. I don’t want to go through life being known for what I’ve got in my shorts. I’m a serious person.”
(Independent 11/11/95)

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I'd have been so tempted to write a reply at the time to the accusation that by lunchbox we meant a salad of baby carrot and petit pois. See if he finds that more or less offensive.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I'd have been so tempted to write a reply at the time to the accusation that by lunchbox we meant a salad of baby carrot and petit pois. See if he finds that more or less offensive.

For years, the image of a black man or woman as sexualised, savage, uncivilised has been used as a racial stereotype in opposition.to cultured, civilised, intellectual whites.

It's pretty offensive, as it continues a racist trope over a period of centuries. I think it's safe to say where they were heading.

“Linford Christie is way out in front in every department, and we don’t just mean the way he stormed to victory in the 100 metres. His skin tight lycra shorts hide little as he pounds down the track and his Olympic-sized talents are a source of delight to women around the world. But the mystery remains- just what does Linford, 32, pack in that famous lunchbox?”
(The Sun 6/8/92)

The stereotype is even repeated when reporting about him complaining about it, too!

 

[Grendel]

For years, the image of a black man or woman as sexualised, savage, uncivilised has been used as a racial stereotype in opposition.to cultured, civilised, intellectual whites.

It's pretty offensive, as it continues a racist trope over a period of centuries. I think it's safe to say where they were heading.

“Linford Christie is way out in front in every department, and we don’t just mean the way he stormed to victory in the 100 metres. His skin tight lycra shorts hide little as he pounds down the track and his Olympic-sized talents are a source of delight to women around the world. But the mystery remains- just what does Linford, 32, pack in that famous lunchbox?”
(The Sun 6/8/92)

The stereotype is even repeated when reporting about him complaining about it, too!

That was more typical of journalistic approach then than anything else really

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

The 38-year-old striker says he found out after the game that he was was referred to as a "fat water buffalo" by a representative from the opposition.

"I believe it dehumanises me as a black man by associating me to a water buffalo, a dark animal, in a derogatory manner," Akinfenwa said in a statement.

Adebayo Akinfenwa: Wycombe striker says he was racially abused in play-off tie

What the fuck have water buffaloes ever done to be compared with Akinfenwa.
There. Its a joke. Be offended everyone.

I'd say Akin is like an Ox. I'm referring to his size and strength. I don't even know the colour of an Ox.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

What the fuck have water buffaloes ever done to be compared with Akinfenwa.
There. Its a joke. Be offended everyone.

I'd say Akin is like an Ox. I'm referring to his size and strength. I don't even know the colour of an Ox.

Just read NW's post, which pretty eloquently sums it up. And no, not attempting to kick off with anyone.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Linford Christie was offended under similar circumstances about the stereotype also. IIRC it was a tv advert for a newspaper after he’d won Olympic gold, something along the line of asking where he keeps his batteries while obviously referring to the outline of his penis in his Lycra running shorts.

God yeah, I remember that actually, the 'lunchbox' became a thing for years didn't it.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

That was more typical of journalistic approach then than anything else really

I think this is closer to the mark on this particular example....but certainly offensive none the less.
The same remarks were not made regarding Tony Jarrett, Colin Jackson, John Regis etc. who were in the same team GB & performing at the same level as Christie.
Sally Gunnel was also subject to headlines such as " horseface" & "Essex Girls do come first" IIRC
Just typical gutter red-top press prodding & poking at our fantastic GB team back then.
EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm not denying the "black man = big dick" exists as a racist trope and is offensive.
Although thinking about it a bit more, If Christie believed it was racist on that occasion, then that probably makes it so.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I think this is closer to the mark on this particular example....but certainly offensive none the less.
The same remarks were not made regarding Tony Jarrett, Colin Jackson, John Regis etc. who were in the same team GB & performing at the same level as Christie.
Sally Gunnel was also subject to headlines such as " horseface" & "Essex Girls do come first" IIRC
Just typical gutter red-top press prodding & poking at our fantastic GB team back then.

Yes, however Ross Barkley might disagree that this kind of thing stopped happening in the 90s.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Yes, however Ross Barkley might disagree that this kind of thing stopped happening in the 90s.

True. (plus, see my edit please)

 

[Deleted member 5849]

EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm not denying the "black man = big dick" exists as a racist trope and is offensive.
Although thinking about it a bit more, If Christie believed it was racist on that occasion, then that probably makes it so.

It's a longstanding sexualisation of the Other, making them objects as opposed to whites. Sarah Baartman's a fine example of it happening centuries earlier.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Just read NW's post, which pretty eloquently sums it up. And no, not attempting to kick off with anyone.

Now, I do get the lunchbox analogy, certainly do. And have I heard of hominoidea being used in the context of race, yes, and objectively so, to the extent that I'd like to see those that do put in stocks so that we can throw bananas at them.

But a water buffalo? Not for a minute do I associate that as a metaphor for racial type. I associate it with somebody who's a fat lad and who runs through walls at will, regardless of race. Without irony or wishing to make a point, perhaps I do need to be educated.