Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Not to worry. Just say you intend to finish in April as a protest cos you're a traditionalist and don't like this date change.
I didn't think anyone other than elite runners were running this year anyway?
Marcel Hilßner - Asthma issue (1 Viewer)
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Not to worry. Just say you intend to finish in April as a protest cos you're a traditionalist and don't like this date change.
I didn't think anyone other than elite runners were running this year anyway?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Shipley is asthmatic I think. Possibly why he tends to last about an hour.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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It's the US. That's probably a bargain in healthcare terms.
Something we can probably look forward to in the coming years.
clint van damme
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Imagine the cost if you've got an asthmatic child. Absolutely criminal
oscillatewildly
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I saw a clip on youtube a few days ago (if I had the know how I would attach a link) A guy is on the streets of a UK town asking random peeps how much they think certain medical treatments cost in the US (including the cost of child birth)
We've heard the stories of medical care being expensive over there but some of the quotes were eye watering. He was working from a sheet so I expect he had exact figures. I distinctly recall the cost of an inhaler and it was indeed in the region of $250.
BornSlippySkyBlue
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Probably the same sort that costs £10 outside of the USA...
BornSlippySkyBlue
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Medical bankruptcy it pretty common in the US. It costs $10k just to have a straightforward birth with no complications.
How much it costs to have a baby in every state, whether you have health insurance or don't
The average cost for a baby delivery is $10,808, but that varies depending on what state you live in, your insurance, and the type of birth you have.
www.businessinsider.com
We'll_live_and_die
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It’s being run as a virtual run. I’ll be running it around the mean streets of Beduth.
robbiekeane
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Literally a standard asthma inhaler. The joys of the US healthcare system
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robbiekeane
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It is absolutely ridiculous over here and I think it’s sickening to essentially commoditise “health”. After a few days in NYC or LA and you get over the funny factor of all the crazy’s doing their crazy routines, once the novelty has worn off, it’s actually heartbreaking. These are mentally ill people who have been failed by their governments and by their healthcare system and it’s condemned them to the streets.
I think one subtle clarification though is not to confuse what we (as in you and I the average UK citizen) “pay” for something like an inhaler, with what it “costs”.
What i mean is, we pay £10 for an inhaler from Superdrug vs paying $250 here*, but I wonder what the UK government contributes through subsidies towards that inhaler. Intent isn’t to try and minimise the difference or anything like they but instead would love to compare those two true numbers because it exposes the outrageous pricing and profit that I’m sure the US price is built on. Might have a look for a study.
*this is the price if you either a) don’t have any health insurance and you walk in off the street or b) more commonly your health insurance contains a “deductible” which, for all intents and purposes, is an “excess” like we have on our car insurance. Depending on your insurance this ranges from $400 up to somewhere on the thousands. So even myself with decent insurance, unless I’ve already been unhealthy and paid the $400 excess up front that year, id still be $250 out of pocket for the inhaler.
Horrendous system.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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It's also telling how the administration approach this. When it's pointed out how much more American's pay compared to other countries the response is rarely "we need to look into this and bring the cost down" it's " we need to get other countries to pay as much as us". Care more about the profits of the companies than the health of their citizens.
I've no doubt prescription charges here have a large subsidy for the NHS (which people do contribute to in taxes) and there must be huge costs in developing new drugs with testing/trials etc but IMO a country that doesn't see health and well-being as a fundamental part of its duties to the people shouldn't be consider civilised. Willing to spend trillions on weapons and hardware to 'protect' its people but not willing to spend a fraction of that to protect their health and will even create health problems by refusing to legislate for protection on air quality/water quality etc in favour of backing industries that should really be in decline in favour of better practices.
And this is how we're increasingly going.
Mucca Mad Boys
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I sure Shipley could last closer to 90m if tactically, it demanded it. But, we had so many players in his position, MR could quite easily tell him to go all out until 60-70m mark.
Anyway, I doubt it's related to his asthma, because you just need to manage it with medication. In my experience, asthma has never impacted my fitness levels. Most of the time it's impacted me, I've had a 'wheeze' if I've not took inhalers and gone straight into high-intensity exercise - which is subsided once I take my inhalers.
better days
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It's mad really that America penalises sick people this way
I have private health care through work and occasionally get private prescriptions so you have to pay the true cost of the drugs
Salbutamol is a generic drug which can be produced by many manufacturers so it's less than £10 each inhaler
Newer drugs still under licence can be really expensive though
ccfcway
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It’s less than 10% of that !!
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'Here' being England of course - not Wales, NI or Scotland.