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Clive Plattini
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http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/co...lins-set-to-join-swindon-town-92746-31208056/
Another target lost.
Another target lost.
Brighton Sky Blue
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'Another one lost: Coventry City's nightmare start to life in League One continued with a thumping 5-0 defeat to Crewe at the Alexandra Stadium this afternoon. The Sky Blues are already reeling from heavy defeats to Yeovil (6-1), Sheffield United (7-0), and Bury (4-0), in addition to the humiliating 5-1 exit to Dag + Red in the Capital One Cup.'
DazzleTommyDazzle
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However manager Andy Thorn pointed out the first team experience being gained by his 14 and 15 year old players would stand them in good stead for the future........
sky blue john
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Well done Sisu objective achieved !!!!!!!!!!!!!
mark82
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This would probably do us a massive favour.
dojer
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Given that there was no actual proof that we were in for him other than newspaper/online rumours it seems a bit much too use this as evidence of the board's paucity of ambition for the club. Particularly given that Collins only really has League 2 experience and that there's so much other evidence to show SISU's indifference towards the club and the fans.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Thorn continued: 'Tim's still assured me that he is doing all he can to get the embargo lifted and finally I'll be able to wheel and deal for the players we need to get us out of this dogfight. As soon as it's lifted, bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang, we'll be firing our way up the table.'
dongonzalos
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When the embargo is lifted, Cranie and Clingan will be the only players left to pick up on free transfers
dongonzalos
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Or more aptly the opportunity to join a big club with big ambitions, with owners who want back to back promotions.
It does not matter who is at the helm ,you would need to seriously wonder why someone would choose Coventry over Swindon with the current owners long term strategy of back to back relegations
dongonzalos
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Are you paying by credit card, if so hold back 3 months payment. Follow the example set for you.
Not sure what the purpose of all these 'player losses' are. Its like handing out a bag of sweets to a kiddy but demanding he can only look at them. Question is SISU are inevitably taking the mick out of AT all along, will he walk away before we even get going or is he in League with the wicked witch and her merry band.
Grendel
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If thorn gives 210% he may just overtake poor old Harry Lovitt and be the second worst manager in our history.
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Why is this yet another anti-Thorn thread? Its pathetic.
We came where we came last year due to the lack of investment in the playing squad. If we outlay an amount of money that's within the bottom three in the division, then pound-to-a-penny, we'll be in the bottom three. Be it with Thorn, or anyone in charge for that matter. To expect him to cheat the odds simply isn't fair, and to judge him harshly for not being able to achieve what the vast percentage managers can't makes me despair
We came where we came last year due to the lack of investment in the playing squad. If we outlay an amount of money that's within the bottom three in the division, then pound-to-a-penny, we'll be in the bottom three. Be it with Thorn, or anyone in charge for that matter. To expect him to cheat the odds simply isn't fair, and to judge him harshly for not being able to achieve what the vast percentage managers can't makes me despair
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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There are few who will claim he is genuinely a good manager. Many who will assert he's done as well as can be expected with the hand dealt. But plenty who'll speak ill of him, irrespective of context
DazzleTommyDazzle
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Why is this yet another anti-Thorn thread? Its pathetic.
We came where we came last year due to the lack of investment in the playing squad. If we outlay an amount of money that's within the bottom three in the division, then pound-to-a-penny, we'll be in the bottom three. Be it with Thorn, or anyone in charge for that matter. To expect him to cheat the odds simply isn't fair, and to judge him harshly for not being able to achieve what the vast percentage managers can't makes me despair
No use using logic MMM.
A number of our distinguished posters have decreed that he is the worst manager of all time in the entire universe and some of them have watched City for 25 years (bloody youngsters) so how can they be argued with ?
dongonzalos
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I have been arguing on thus matter on loads of occasions.
The only way the argument will ever get settled. Is if AT gets the players that people think he needs and he still does not achieve.
I thought that would happen this season and we would know one way or the other. Unfortunately it even seems in league one they may not even give us the free transfers we need!
Everyone will set their own standards. In my little world if he get 7 to 10 signings and does not get us in the play offs. I will be dissapointed. 4 to 7 and we go down I will be dissapointed. 0 to 4 and I will expect us to go down.
This is with current expected exits. If Willis goes aswell then add one more to my totals
The only way the argument will ever get settled. Is if AT gets the players that people think he needs and he still does not achieve.
I thought that would happen this season and we would know one way or the other. Unfortunately it even seems in league one they may not even give us the free transfers we need!
Everyone will set their own standards. In my little world if he get 7 to 10 signings and does not get us in the play offs. I will be dissapointed. 4 to 7 and we go down I will be dissapointed. 0 to 4 and I will expect us to go down.
This is with current expected exits. If Willis goes aswell then add one more to my totals
lordsummerisle
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Why is this yet another anti-Thorn thread? Its pathetic.
We came where we came last year due to the lack of investment in the playing squad. If we outlay an amount of money that's within the bottom three in the division, then pound-to-a-penny, we'll be in the bottom three. Be it with Thorn, or anyone in charge for that matter. To expect him to cheat the odds simply isn't fair, and to judge him harshly for not being able to achieve what the vast percentage managers can't makes me despair
A good manager would outperform his resources, why should any of us bother at all?
Just issue the places at the start of the season based on budget.
Dalgleish would have probably kept his job then, and Rodgers wouldn't be at Liverpool now because he'd have been relegated with Swansea before a ball had been kicked.
Grendel
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But what is the relevance of context?
At what point does context become irrelevant and the view is we need a change of manager to see if it makes a difference? You cannot for certain say that a new manager would not have made a difference no one can. It could not have made it worse.
He has;
Worst win ratio since 1917 (think about that for a minute)
Two away wins since taking charge
A succession of tactical errors too numerous to mention
He is a walking, talking disaster and is the perfect manager for these wretched owners as people still make excuses for him. He worships SISU. The only currency he knows is the SISU dollar. Get rid of him and the empire will start to fall.
dongonzalos
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Did Swansea sell all their best players and not replace them? Fairplay to Rodgers I never realised he still achieved despite that. Good man.
lordsummerisle
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Expect he had the lowest budget of any of the Premiership sides last season, though Lambert may have ran him close.
According to MMM, budget is all though, if you have a bottom three budget, then it doesn't matter who you are, you will finish in the bottom three.
Plenty of teams disprove that.
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dongonzalos
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Plenty of managers over achieve. However there is a big difference between youth team football and championship football. Or this season league 1 football
I agree with you budget is not always the only factor and martin oneil at Leicester shows that.
However Turner, Westwood, carlsley, King, gunner, mcindoe out.
Two goalkeepers and a not fully fit cody in. Then kids promoted from youth football.
If it was just about budgets. These players could and should have been replaced with cheaper free transfers, so we had a squad.
Then maybe I could judge AT but that exchange was ridiculous.
Every says on here that sisu never admit that anything was their fault. However even they held their hands up to this one.
I agree with you budget is not always the only factor and martin oneil at Leicester shows that.
However Turner, Westwood, carlsley, King, gunner, mcindoe out.
Two goalkeepers and a not fully fit cody in. Then kids promoted from youth football.
If it was just about budgets. These players could and should have been replaced with cheaper free transfers, so we had a squad.
Then maybe I could judge AT but that exchange was ridiculous.
Every says on here that sisu never admit that anything was their fault. However even they held their hands up to this one.
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