Behind closed doors (15 Viewers)

Skyblueweeman

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Don't think it matters really...level playing field in that respect for everyone.

Also, we're more accustomed to playing against smaller crowds so could work in our favour but bar the other two that came up with us, the rest of the division already has experience of playing behind closed doors, so that could work in their favour.

Don't think it makes a difference to be honest.
 

shmmeee

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Don't think it matters really...level playing field in that respect for everyone.

Also, we're more accustomed to playing against smaller crowds so could work in our favour but bar the other two that came up with us, the rest of the division already has experience of playing behind closed doors, so that could work in their favour.

Don't think it makes a difference to be honest.

We played in front of 7k in the Ricoh for years. We’ve been training for this for ages :D
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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I think it will impact negatively more on the 'big' teams in the division who miss out on match day income and need it to offset the daft wages in this division. I suspect a number of clubs have taken a chance on predicting the return of crowds and the likes of Forest, Sheff Wed, Derby who have large attendances are going to be badly hit by not having paying customers over an elongated period. The pay for view will offset a bit, but if a team is struggling / playing poorly, some of those pay to view figures are likely to dip. Wouldn't be surprised if one or two Championship sides start sending out distress signals mid-season, and I see the Chairman of the PL has started br*cking it by saying PL clubs will lose x hundred million between them unless fans return (so EFL clubs can expect no help there)
The likes Of CCFC, Wycombe and Rotherham shouldn't suffer to the same extent, if only because of the comparative wage bills.
 
Plans for spectators to attend sporting events in England from 1 October are to be reviewed, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has confirmed.

Johnson, speaking at a Downing Street news conference, also said pilot events in September would be restricted to 1,000 fans with social distancing measures in place.
“We must revise plans to pilot larger audiences in venues later this month and review our intention to return audiences to stadiums from 1 October," said Johnson.

"But that doesn't mean we are going to scrap the programme entirely.

“We are just going to have to review it and abridge it."
 

SBT

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As others said, all the other teams in the division bar Rotherham will be used to it by now. I've no idea how weird it is for the players, but maybe it'll take us some time to adjust. In the long run I think it's probably a net benefit for us without big home crowds affecting the ref for some of our away games.
 

Frostie

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Plans for spectators to attend sporting events in England from 1 October are to be reviewed, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has confirmed.

Johnson, speaking at a Downing Street news conference, also said pilot events in September would be restricted to 1,000 fans with social distancing measures in place.
“We must revise plans to pilot larger audiences in venues later this month and review our intention to return audiences to stadiums from 1 October," said Johnson.

"But that doesn't mean we are going to scrap the programme entirely.

“We are just going to have to review it and abridge it."


Frustrating.
Really easy to distance in reduced capacity stadiums & largely outdoors of course, hopefully they see sense.
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

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Frustrating.
Really easy to distance in reduced capacity stadiums & largely outdoors of course, hopefully they see sense.
Presumably it isn’t so much about once fans are actually in their socially distanced seats, as opposed to getting them there (and things like the toilets). If each fan has to be escorted to their seats it’s going to be a right ballsache for the staff.

And I can’t even imagine the queue for the toilets at half time :oops:
 

chiefdave

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Presumably it isn’t so much about once fans are actually in their socially distanced seats, as opposed to getting them there (and things like the toilets). If each fan has to be escorted to their seats it’s going to be a right ballsache for the staff.

And I can’t even imagine the queue for the toilets at half time :oops:
When they did the test event at Edgbaston the stewards would only let a handful of people down to the concourse at the same time so social distancing could be maintained. Lot easier to do at an all day cricket match than 15 minute half time.
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

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When they did the test event at Edgbaston the stewards would only let a handful of people down to the concourse at the same time so social distancing could be maintained. Lot easier to do at an all day cricket match than 15 minute half time.
Yeah, can you imagine that at St Andrews? Let’s say 10 at a time allowed in the toilets, 3000 fans.
 

wingy

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Manchester area has been running hot for some time now hasn't it?
How much sway would Andy Burnham have on thing's up there re fans attendance .
Manchester now delivers it's health services I believe .
Would he have a say like the Mayor or leader of Doncaster authority today?
 

Magwitch

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I think we could be on the brink of another lock down sounds drastic but another two week lock down could prevent being in one for months like last time.
Boris is cagey on what and how he says things re the pandemic but today I thought he was a bit down beat in his conference call.
 

fernandopartridge

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Manchester area has been running hot for some time now hasn't it?
How much sway would Andy Burnham have on thing's up there re fans attendance .
Manchester now delivers it's health services I believe .
Would he have a say like the Mayor or leader of Doncaster authority today?

The devolution deal is more about controlling the services it commissions, it doesn't replace the role of the DHSC. From what has been said in the Manchester Evening News, it sounds like Burnham is bypassed and a lot of the decisions are made centrally in the DHSC without much consultation, e.g. the Bolton and Trafford release and u-turn.
 

Suffolkskyblue

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I don’t know about any other non local supporter but I’ll be spending a lot more this year with the Ifollow video passes than I would during a normal season. I normally only attend one or two ‘home’ games and all the localish away games. This season I’ll be watching as many as I can in IFollow at £10 a time and the club I believe gets approximately 75% of that. Hopefully the loss of income will not be as bad as feared. There must be a lot of people looking forward to seeing more of the games like me.


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mark82

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I don’t know about any other non local supporter but I’ll be spending a lot more this year with the Ifollow video passes than I would during a normal season. I normally only attend one or two ‘home’ games and all the localish away games. This season I’ll be watching as many as I can in IFollow at £10 a time and the club I believe gets approximately 75% of that. Hopefully the loss of income will not be as bad as feared. There must be a lot of people looking forward to seeing more of the games like me.


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I wonder if it could work out quite well for a club like CCFC, with a large fan base but get quite small attendances due to our current situation.
 

Liquid Gold

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I don’t know about any other non local supporter but I’ll be spending a lot more this year with the Ifollow video passes than I would during a normal season. I normally only attend one or two ‘home’ games and all the localish away games. This season I’ll be watching as many as I can in IFollow at £10 a time and the club I believe gets approximately 75% of that. Hopefully the loss of income will not be as bad as feared. There must be a lot of people looking forward to seeing more of the games like me.


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So long as people are like you buying the passes and not using a dodgy Facebook stream or some pub.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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I'm certainly struggling to muster any kind of real genuine excitement for the new season when I cannot realistically see me getting to see any games live this season......

...and watching BCD games on telly just leaves me cold. ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Fuck you Covid.
 

Skyblueweeman

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I'm certainly struggling to muster any kind of real genuine excitement for the new season when I cannot realistically see me getting to see any games live this season......

...and watching BCD games on telly just leaves me cold. ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Fuck you Covid.

Better than no football at all, surely?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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So long as people are like you buying the passes and not using a dodgy Facebook stream or some pub.

There's no excuse for it this season.

If it is legal to watch (which it is), then buy a pass and do so. I certainly will be. You could argue if someone cannot get to the games but to watch you have to VPN or watch a dodgy stream to get round it, but this year it is not the case.
 

Johnnythespider

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I've asked a couple of people at work and one said he'd see if at was on at the club he goes to, the other mentioned facebook.
 

Liquid Gold

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There's no excuse for it this season.

If it is legal to watch (which it is), then buy a pass and do so. I certainly will be. You could argue if someone cannot get to the games but to watch you have to VPN or watch a dodgy stream to get round it, but this year it is not the case.
I still think there is a distinction between using a vpn and paying and just getting it for free on Facebook.
 

chiefdave

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I've asked a couple of people at work and one said he'd see if at was on at the club he goes to, the other mentioned facebook.
I don't get the mentality of supporting the club but doing things like this which directly deprives the club of income at a time they desperately need it.

Appreciate there are people that can't afford it but some of the Facebook streams have a couple of thousand watching. Over the course of the season thats a serious amount of revenue lost.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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You're literally stealing from the club if you watch the game on a dodgy stream tomorrow. I'm sure those doing in on FB will be the first to moan about 'Joy not putting her hands in her pockets' every transfer window.
 

Evo1883

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You're literally stealing from the club if you watch the game on a dodgy stream tomorrow. I'm sure those doing in on FB will be the first to moan about 'Joy not putting her hands in her pockets' every transfer window.

I've purchased my St and will be watching on a dodgy stream.. 🤷 If possible that is
 

Johnnythespider

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I don't get the mentality of supporting the club but doing things like this which directly deprives the club of income at a time they desperately need it.

Appreciate there are people that can't afford it but some of the Facebook streams have a couple of thousand watching. Over the course of the season thats a serious amount of revenue lost.
One of them was a season ticket holder 2 years ago :unsure:
 

shmmeee

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I’d encourage people to report the FB streams. The level of accessibility means it draws thousands of paying fans away from the legit streams. IPTV or whatever is one thing but FB is idiot proof and it’s clearly against TOS.
 

mark82

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If there are a couple of thousand watching the free stream each week that is approximately 14k a week the club are missing out on. That's potentially a couple of extra players on the wage bill over the season. Over a 46 game season that's £644,000. If anyone thinks it doesn't hurt the club they're wrong.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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Whilst theres no doubt free streaming will cost the club some revenue, its a very big leap to assume that everyone watching one would otherwise be paying....

Loads of folk just watch stuff cos its on.....if it wasn't on, they'd just watch something else.

....I watched some Belarusian football during lockdown but I wouldn't pay for it.
 

Grendel

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Whilst theres no doubt free streaming will cost the club some revenue, its a very big leap to assume that everyone watching one would otherwise be paying....

Loads of folk just watch stuff cos its on.....if it wasn't on, they'd just watch something else.

....I watched some Belarusian football during lockdown but I wouldn't pay for it.

Yeah it’s a silly assumption
 

Liquid Gold

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Whilst theres no doubt free streaming will cost the club some revenue, its a very big leap to assume that everyone watching one would otherwise be paying....

Loads of folk just watch stuff cos its on.....if it wasn't on, they'd just watch something else.

....I watched some Belarusian football during lockdown but I wouldn't pay for it.
But there are loads of people on social media asking where the streams are searching them out, they're not just sticking it on and they should be paying for it.
 

Evo1883

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Whilst theres no doubt free streaming will cost the club some revenue, its a very big leap to assume that everyone watching one would otherwise be paying....

Loads of folk just watch stuff cos its on.....if it wasn't on, they'd just watch something else.

....I watched some Belarusian football during lockdown but I wouldn't pay for it.


Most people watch streams to save themselves or their family money.. Considering full sports packages etc cost a fortune each month..

I doubt many at all think of the financial implications of others

Ifollow is still an expense many people can't afford each month... People look out for their own interests...source = Human nature
 

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