skybluetony176
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Where were they? North Africa? Middle East? One of the Gulf states?
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Ian1779
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He’s doesn’t appear to stand for anything.
Grendel
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his sitting on the fence on every issue was odd. Whatever your political persuasion you’d certainly go for the jugular on non Covid issues but on Brexit and the economy he dodged the bullet - can’t raise taxes and no wealth tax and get Brexit done and dusted. Strange strategy - he’s clearly not dim but he’s putting on a good dim act and with no charisma either
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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You can tell he's a lawyer. It's all about being calm, composed and unemotional, focusing on the facts. He's very intelligent and way more competent than Johnson (or anyone else likely to take over from him) but we know that doesn't win elections,
He's capable of running the country. He's just probably not capable of convincing the public he should be given the opportunity. Personality is worth way more than competence these days.
Tories can win elections, but they can't govern. Too many of them are too far detached from the reality for the majority of people to understand what's needed.
chiefdave
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What makes you think that?
Boris 'worried about money and affording a nanny' on £150,000 PM salary
Sources said the Prime Minister has ‘misery etched on his face’ and is no longer his usual upbeat self as he works through Brexit negotiations and the pandemic.
metro.co.uk
skybluetony176
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Imagine if Corbyn got in. He’d be a stooge for the Russians
FinCEN Files: Tory donor Lubov Chernukhin linked to $8m Putin ally funding
Leaked files show Lubov Chernukhin's husband was secretly funded by a Russian oligarch.
www.bbc.co.uk
FirstGroup responds to scrapping of UK rail franchises as unions hit out
SCOTTISH transport giant FirstGroup has welcomed a big-money extension to its cross-border rail contract.
chiefdave
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Not really seeing the advantages of the proposed set up over bringing the railways back into public ownership. Just seems a way to guarantee private companies don't make losses.FirstGroup responds to scrapping of UK rail franchises as unions hit out
SCOTTISH transport giant FirstGroup has welcomed a big-money extension to its cross-border rail contract.www.thenational.scot
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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That's the entire point of it. Can't renationalise them cos then when things improve their rich mates can't profit from it.
skybluetony176
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Blue on blue
The Queen is set to receive a government 'bailout' and people aren't happy about it
Indy100 24/09/2020 14:45
The government has confirmed that it will top up the Queen’s income following a slump in revenue from the Crown Estate during the pandemic – and people aren’t sympathetic.
The treasury has said it will top up the Sovereign Grant in response to a decrease in value of the royal family’s property portfolio.
The value of the portfolio, which includes shops in London’s West End, has plummeted by more than £500m since coronavirus struck.
But, on social media, people weren’t particularly sympathetic.
Lord Andrew Adonis, in a series of tweets, wrote: “There is no case for a bailout this year.”
In another tweet, he wrote that he would “oppose it strongly in the House of Lords”.
Lord Adonis wasn’t the only person frustrated with the Queen getting an income top-up.
One furious Twitter user said: “This government has thrown freelancers and the self-employed under a bus, left tens of thousands struggling to feed their families and pay their rent, but the richest woman in the country gets a handout?”
Another angry Twitter user wrote: “Food banks, job losses... and this.”
Others proceeded to play on the world’s smallest violin.
One's income top-up is certainly controversial.
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Indy100 24/09/2020 14:45
The government has confirmed that it will top up the Queen’s income following a slump in revenue from the Crown Estate during the pandemic – and people aren’t sympathetic.
The treasury has said it will top up the Sovereign Grant in response to a decrease in value of the royal family’s property portfolio.
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But, on social media, people weren’t particularly sympathetic.
Lord Andrew Adonis, in a series of tweets, wrote: “There is no case for a bailout this year.”
In another tweet, he wrote that he would “oppose it strongly in the House of Lords”.
Lord Adonis wasn’t the only person frustrated with the Queen getting an income top-up.
One furious Twitter user said: “This government has thrown freelancers and the self-employed under a bus, left tens of thousands struggling to feed their families and pay their rent, but the richest woman in the country gets a handout?”
Another angry Twitter user wrote: “Food banks, job losses... and this.”
Others proceeded to play on the world’s smallest violin.
One's income top-up is certainly controversial.
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Boris ‘cover-up’
The “darker” side will be covered up. Beach-goers will instead see the reverse image, an “exemplification of the positivity of the country” featuring NHS nurses, Colonel Tom Moore and an LGBTQ rainbow flag.
The offending image, which includes Dominic Cummings in a military general’s outfit being driven in a car alongside Vladimir Putin, a slug-like Nigel Farage and saluting far right protesters, will be available on the Arts by the Sea website.
In a letter appealing to Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole Council to reverse its ban, the artist wrote: “I wanted this diptych to have two distinct sides. The light would complement the dark and vice versa.”
‘Let public decide’
“The dark side of this piece is not about Bournemouth, it is about our leaders who have let us down so badly and about other divisive figures who say they love our country but shame us with their behaviour and attitudes.”
‘No censorship’
The festival organisers said there had been no “censorship” of the work.
A spokesman said: “There was an understanding that we would receive images in good time to review, which was not honoured by the producer. The dystopian image did not meet the description of being “playful” supplied to us by the producer in advance.”
Spencer, who said he had not misled the council over his intended work, added: “I look forward to hearing what people think about the artwork they can see and also the artwork they can’t. Someone else made that decision for them, sadly.”
‘Mistake to cover up’
The Birmingham artist, whose image of Brexit Britain sinking beneath the Thames graced the cover of Time magazine, will next week unveil his next large scale public artworks in Liverpool – a super-sized, 100 piece jigsaw called Trumpscape, “a dark/apocalyptic vision of President Trump’s America in the age of Covid.”
Reflecting on the Bournemouth ban, Cold War Steve said: “I understand the work is challenging, but so far people have taken this the right way, seen the comedy, the anger, the social commentary and satire and reflected on it as a whole and not seen it as simply a provocation.”
“I do feel it is a mistake for one side to be covered over and to ignore the message as a whole – to block out the dark and only celebrate the light feels counterproductive when we could have these difficult conversations together now
clint van damme
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Cold War Steve, aka Christopher Spencer, notorious for his surreal, politically-charged collages, has reluctantly agreed to “reverse” the double-sided giant public artwork, which was allocated a prime spot on Boscombe Beach.
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Boris ‘cover-up’
The “darker” side will be covered up. Beach-goers will instead see the reverse image, an “exemplification of the positivity of the country” featuring NHS nurses, Colonel Tom Moore and an LGBTQ rainbow flag.
The ‘lighter’ side of Cold War Steve’s beach work, showing Britain’s ‘warmth and positivity’ (Cold War Steve)
The offending image, which includes Dominic Cummings in a military general’s outfit being driven in a car alongside Vladimir Putin, a slug-like Nigel Farage and saluting far right protesters, will be available on the Arts by the Sea website.
In a letter appealing to Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole Council to reverse its ban, the artist wrote: “I wanted this diptych to have two distinct sides. The light would complement the dark and vice versa.”
‘Let public decide’
“The dark side of this piece is not about Bournemouth, it is about our leaders who have let us down so badly and about other divisive figures who say they love our country but shame us with their behaviour and attitudes.”
‘No censorship’
The festival organisers said there had been no “censorship” of the work.
A spokesman said: “There was an understanding that we would receive images in good time to review, which was not honoured by the producer. The dystopian image did not meet the description of being “playful” supplied to us by the producer in advance.”
Spencer, who said he had not misled the council over his intended work, added: “I look forward to hearing what people think about the artwork they can see and also the artwork they can’t. Someone else made that decision for them, sadly.”
‘Mistake to cover up’
The Birmingham artist, whose image of Brexit Britain sinking beneath the Thames graced the cover of Time magazine, will next week unveil his next large scale public artworks in Liverpool – a super-sized, 100 piece jigsaw called Trumpscape, “a dark/apocalyptic vision of President Trump’s America in the age of Covid.”
Reflecting on the Bournemouth ban, Cold War Steve said: “I understand the work is challenging, but so far people have taken this the right way, seen the comedy, the anger, the social commentary and satire and reflected on it as a whole and not seen it as simply a provocation.”
“I do feel it is a mistake for one side to be covered over and to ignore the message as a whole – to block out the dark and only celebrate the light feels counterproductive when we could have these difficult conversations together now
He's coming to Cov! Can't wait
Ian1779
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He did some other stuff before Coldwar Steve - Guerilla LeVell and Suez Tosh (and one more that I can’t remember the name for the life of me) but he’s taken it all down.
clint van damme
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I saw some of that on Twitter some time back. Had forgotten all about it.
skybluetony176
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Boris in can’t wipe his own arse shocker
Who'll bail out Boris? Johnson has taken a vast pay cut to be PM
With something resembling a genial grunt, the Prime Minister urged his guests to tuck into lunch, Oxfordshire beef fillet with crispy shin, baby leeks and a rich gravy.
www.dailymail.co.uk
skybluetony176
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Ian1779
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Boris in can’t wipe his own arse shocker
Who'll bail out Boris? Johnson has taken a vast pay cut to be PM
With something resembling a genial grunt, the Prime Minister urged his guests to tuck into lunch, Oxfordshire beef fillet with crispy shin, baby leeks and a rich gravy.www.dailymail.co.uk
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I do think there is a valid argument that any PM should be paid more than £150K.
Fuck him still though, it’s not like he even pays for all his kids.
skybluetony176
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Pretty sure the stories are being driven from within No10. I doubt that they’re with Boris’ blessing as my gut is telling me that Gove and Cummings are conspiring against Boris to install Gove in No10. The stories feel like they’re being driven to undermine Boris from a he can’t sort his personal life out, he can’t sort the country out or Boris the elitist complaining about not being able to afford a nanny and having to pay for meals while single mother nurses are juggling child care and relying on food banks. It’s either an ill thought out campaign to garnish sympathy for Boris or a very well thought out campaign to undermine him.
lifeskyblue
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Perhaps Marcus Rashford will come to his aid and help provide meals for Boris’ baby
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Great! From one fuckwit to another. At least this fuckwit has some comedic value and charisma to distract you. Gove has nothing. Whiny, grating voice, no personality, stupid ideas, infinitely punchable face.
Johnson plummets into the bottom third of our Cabinet League table | Conservative Home
Last month, he was sixth from top. Now, he is eighth from bottom. Only six Ministers have a satisfaction rating of more than half.
www.conservativehome.com
skybluetony176
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I don’t think ultimately it will change anything other than the face. Unless there’s a genuine leadership contest where the party has a clear choice in candidates and one of them doesn’t come with the baggage of Cummings and his weirdos nothing will change. Cummings will still be in charge.
clint van damme
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kicking off between Armenia and Azerbaijan, Turkey pulling the strings by the look of it. Just what the world needs, another war.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Considering the last incumbent was May who was against the wall from the off it's quite something for someone to be even worse off so soon, esp after winning such a massive majority.
Mind you the parliamentary lot never wanted him in the first place and would kick him out first chance. Wholly reliant on support from the members and once he lost that the knives would be out quicker than you could say "et tu, Gove?" All he had to do to lose that support was show himself to be incompetent and that was never going to take long.
I'm just hoping we've reached the bottom of the barrel. It'll still be very much the dregs of the barrel, but not quite the bottom of it. We've had thoughts "I'd take May/Cameron/Brown/Blair/Major/Thatcher over this anyday" I can't imagine a situation other than imminent annihilation that could lead anyone thinking 'I'd even take Johnson back in charge now'
shmmeee
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Now, much as it was be careful what you wish for when May went, I do fear ideological insanity if Sunak takes over. He may be more competent (who isn't!) but ultimately Johnson isn't small state, or ideologically averse to spending to help out people. Sunak, I'm less sure...
Brighton Sky Blue
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They’ll need another bumbling clown to con people in 2024, Sunak needs to get a pair of baggy trousers pronto
shmmeee
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Funny one isn’t it, because he’s probably got most of his popularity from handing out huge amounts of cash in furlough and Nando’s, but you’re right given free reign he’ll almost certainly pivot to his Thatcherite roots. Then again, everyone’s a socialist in a crisis. Like all Tories his ultimate ideology may well be whatever keeps him in power.
I think their bigger problem is this apparent culture war strategy, which I don’t think he’s suited to at all. Not even because he’s Asian, Patel could do it easily, but his entire persona isn’t that sort of Clarkson-esque casual bigotry that Johnson excels at.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Only way is up?
Could be the new Things Can Only Get Better
I think Boris has been using The Only Way Is up using as part of his seduction technique for some while.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Sunak would take us much further down a US style capitalist road than we already are. Everything would be for sale to the private sector under him (then end up bailed out by public money when it goes wrong)
Already started on here as well ; )
Ps as poor as May was (to be fair she was in a pretty impossible position on Brexit but then I lack sympathy after she truly fucked up her manifesto/election campaign), she at least still does her duty as an MP, unlike many others when they leave office.