Match Thread Barnsley Match Thread (16 Viewers)

[Barnsley]

Can you not see the level Hamer is at ?

I can I’d take him in a heart beat.

 

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[Evo1883]

I can I’d take him in a heart beat.

And some QPR fans and some brizzle fans... He's only going to get better.

 

[clint van damme]

It’s an opinion old fella. I have to read some of your shit and clueless comes to mind too.

I do think you're wrong about Hamer Riyadh. He looks a really decent signing to me.

 

[Grendel]

It’s a point and it’s 4 points from 3 games. Reality is we are at that points per game ratio probably over achieving - 1 win in 3 isn’t bad and we are at least looking competitive

 

[jordan210]

I’m surprised Dabo stayed on all game was looking shattered at the end.
Not sure why we can’t use all 3 subs

 

[clint van damme]

It’s a point and it’s 4 points from 3 games. Reality is we are at that points per game ratio probably over achieving - 1 win in 3 isn’t bad and we are at least looking competitive

that ratio should keep us up if we maintain it

 

[Covkid1968#]

Was so looking forward to this game..got that same let down feeling as when I bought a bag of coke for a big night out up the Tudor Rose only to find out, in a filthy toilet cubicle, it was talc. Pffffffff

 

[Evo1883]

It’s a point and it’s 4 points from 3 games. Reality is we are at that points per game ratio probably over achieving - 1 win in 3 isn’t bad and we are at least looking competitive

What with Wycombe being dreadful, already being ahead of Wednesday by 12 points at worst 9.. I'm quietly confident there are a couple more teams in the league worse than us.

Derby look awful, watched Huddersfield and forest last night they looked very poor too.

 

[Barnsley]

What with Wycombe being dreadful, already being ahead of Wednesday by 12 points at worst 9.. I'm quietly confident there are a couple more teams in the league worse than us.

Derby look awful, watched Huddersfield and forest last night they looked very poor too.

some teams will go into administration too.

 

[the rumpo kid]

I think the Barnsley guy called it , they pressed hard and fast but they aren't good enough, stopped us as much as they could from playing our game , were very quick to close down O'Hare and goden . We will learn more from this than they did. We will improve and adapt they will be relegated.

 

[Evo1883]

some teams will go into administration too.

I hope not, however it's extremely possible

 

[clint van damme]

I hope not, however it's extremely possible

yeah, don't want to see clubs in jeopardy even if it benefits us but its looking highly likely.
From a selfish point of view, if you had to pick a season to be playing your Championship home games 20 miles outside your home town then this is the one.

 

[Evo1883]

yeah, don't want to see clubs in jeopardy even if it benefits us but its looking highly likely.
From a selfish point of view, if you had to pick a season to be playing your Championship home games 20 miles outside your home town then this is the one.

You're right

 

[cc84cov]

And some QPR fans and some brizzle fans... He's only going to get better.

Give me Hamer over Walsh any day

 

[Londonccfcfan]

yeah, don't want to see clubs in jeopardy even if it benefits us but its looking highly likely.
From a selfish point of view, if you had to pick a season to be playing your Championship home games 20 miles outside your home town then this is the one.

Yup brilliant point.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Give me Hamer over Walsh any day

All day long.

 

[Evo1883]

Give me Hamer over Walsh any day

I think what people need to also realise is this is the championship and not league 1... Hamer would have looked like Andreas Iniesta in league 1... Mind you Walsh did too

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I think the Barnsley guy called it , they pressed hard and fast but they aren't good enough, stopped us as much as they could from playing our game , were very quick to close down O'Hare and goden . We will learn more from this than they did. We will improve and adapt they will be relegated.

Exactly as I saw it- it’s not that we were totally off form, it went exactly as they wanted it to and we didn’t have what it took to break them down, but without ever looking in trouble. We just didn’t have the nous to play against their system. And again spot on, that is the sort of game that you can only learn from. Basically the Barnsley fan called it beforehand, he said what was likely to happen and it did.

The only major negative really is that although I would never call that one of the ‘easy’ games, it sure wasn’t one of the hardest. But an away point- ultimately can’t complain too much I guess.

As for Barnsley getting relegated- who knows, but I’d say at some point they will have to adapt a bit, sacrifice some of the closing down game for a bit more creativity or I have no idea how they’ll score too many.

 

[Evo1883]

Exactly as I saw it- it’s not that we were totally off form, it went exactly as they wanted it to and we didn’t have what it took to break them down, but without ever looking in trouble. We just didn’t have the nous to play against their system. And again spot on, that is the sort of game that you can only learn from. Basically the Barnsley fan called it beforehand, he said what was likely to happen and it did.

The only major negative really is that although I would never call that one of the ‘easy’ games, it sure wasn’t one of the hardest. But an away point- ultimately can’t complain too much I guess.

As for Barnsley getting relegated- who knows, but I’d say at some point they will have to adapt a bit, sacrifice some of the closing down game for a bit more creativity or I have no idea how they’ll score too many.

Their manager leaving might actually be a blessing

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

yeah, don't want to see clubs in jeopardy even if it benefits us but its looking highly likely.
From a selfish point of view, if you had to pick a season to be playing your Championship home games 20 miles outside your home town then this is the one.

Our club being in jeapordy has benefitted many clubs down the years. Time to be a bit more ruthless about it.

 

[capel & collindridge]

Maybe it's the fact he's three games into playing in a new country and league and most people can already see that he can comfortably receive and play the ball in very tight spaces, pick a pass long and short, is highly competitive and gets stuck in, is responsible for our new threat from set pieces.

Yes, but apart from that?
;-D

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s a point and it’s 4 points from 3 games. Reality is we are at that points per game ratio probably over achieving - 1 win in 3 isn’t bad and we are at least looking competitive

We need 2 wins every 5 for survival, think we can manage that

 

[Evo1883]

We need 2 wins every 5 for survival, think we can manage that

Until you look at our upcoming fixtures tough run coming up

Next 4 fixtures I'd take 5 points and be very happy

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I think the lack of accuracy was in part due to the aforementioned lack of movement as well as the lack of bodies in the box. So, claiming it tells the full story, in my opinion, is harsh. Admittedly, not all crosses were good, but enough were at the very least directed into the right area.

Perhaps I'm giving Giles too much credit here, but I think the logic behind some of his crosses was that there was little point in sending lofted balls into the box, as given the CB's height advantage, they would've been able to deal with them relatively easily. So, instead he tried to aim them low. But without the correct runs along with the lack of bodies getting into the box, on the surface they looked wasteful and poor.

Ironically, the one notable cross that Dabo sent in, Godden managed to get himself in front of the defenders and was able to make a minor connection. Unfortunately, this revelation came too late as by that point the game was quickly going nowhere.

Definitely giving Giles too much credit here, there was about 2-3 good crossing opportunities squandered. Where we’ve not even cleared the near post. For me, the best cross I remember was actually from Allen, where Gooden had the beating of his defender (just) and their closer defender headed it for a corner.

If they were dangerous crosses, fair enough, but they just weren’t really making the defence have to think about it.

It’s a tough place come since they returned from the lockdown, so I’ll take the point and clean sheet away from home.

 

[Jamesimus]

Yes, but apart from that?
;-D

Well, he's no Carl Baker I guess

In all seriousness, he plays in an unglamorous position, so maybe some people aren't noticing what he's doing because he's not running with the ball at his feet all the time.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Until you look at our upcoming fixtures tough run coming up

Next 4 fixtures I'd take 5 points and be very happy

Yeah there's very few easy games in this league if any, but in that calculation we're still losing more games than not. December we have a run of games against teams you'd expect to be around the bottom and we can either use that to pull away or to get dragged in

 

[NortonSkyBlue]

Can you not see the level Hamer is at ?

I gave my opinion. He is not the messiah so far in my opinion and is a booking in waiting. 3 fouls in the first 9 minutes put him in the refs mind and he has done that in each game so far.

 

[cc84cov]

I gave my opinion. He is not the messiah so far in my opinion and is a booking in waiting. 3 fouls in the first 9 minutes put him in the refs mind and he has done that in each game so far.

Midfield enforcer who can play mate that’s the player he is.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I gave my opinion. He is not the messiah so far in my opinion and is a booking in waiting. 3 fouls in the first 9 minutes put him in the refs mind and he has done that in each game so far.

Gestapo Hamer won't stand for such insubordination

 

[NortonSkyBlue]

I do think you're wrong about Hamer Riyadh. He looks a really decent signing to me.

He is a tidy player for sure but we missed Kelly today and he marked his own card by constantly fouling. We needed a calm head. In my opinion only.

 

[clint van damme]

He is a tidy player for sure but we missed Kelly today and he marked his own card by constantly fouling. We needed a calm head. In my opinion only.

we definitely miss Kelly. I think everyones on the same page with that one.

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

Big issue for me today was the lethargic nature of the front 3 and they looked lightweight. Godden did nothing today and Allen I’m getting more disappointed in each game. Works hard but we need some cutting edge up there. O’Hare couldn’t do much with the ball. When Shipley came on he looked way off the pace.

 

[Jamesimus]

I gave my opinion. He is not the messiah so far in my opinion and is a booking in waiting. 3 fouls in the first 9 minutes put him in the refs mind and he has done that in each game so far.

How often is a defensive midfielder regarded as the "Messiah" in any team? He is doing a job very well. His yellow today was stopping a counter attack near the end of the game. Part of his job. What exactly are you expecting him to do in a game? He is not going to be running at defences like Ronaldo.

For a million pounds he has looked better than most of the opposing teams midfielders we have played against so far, ones that are worth ten times more, I think that's what everyone else with eyes are seeing.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Big issue for me today was the lethargic nature of the front 3 and they looked lightweight. Godden did nothing today and Allen I’m getting more disappointed in each game. Works hard but we need some cutting edge up there. O’Hare couldn’t do much with the ball. When Shipley came on he looked way off the pace.

Think Ohare tried too much...

Godden looked really slow. But I think he will learn from the experience. The lack of movement up front wasn't great when the crosses did come in..no urgency to get in front of the defender.

He struggled to hold it up. When Walker came on it actually got worse.

We shouldn't be too critical.

Overall.

3 games in and we don't look out of place. So there has been a huge improvement taking the step up in our stride.

 

[NortonSkyBlue]

How often is a defensive midfielder regarded as the "Messiah" in any team? He is doing a job very well. His yellow today was stopping a counter attack near the end of the game. Part of his job. What exactly are you expecting him to do in a game? He is not going to be running at defences like Ronaldo.

For a million pounds he has looked better than most of the opposing teams midfielders we have played against so far, ones that are worth ten times more, I think that's what everyone else with eyes are seeing.

As I keep saying it’s an opinion. I hope he succeeds as we then succeed. If everyone is seeing a great midfielder then I am in a minority. For what it’s worth I believe that Shipley should have started today over Sheaf, as we had a midfield that was not used to playing with each other and it showed.