Ah fek it doesn't say - how do you know?
Would she like me to advise her on how easy it is to quadruple her money. I'll only charge her £8mil for the privilege.
An my guess she trusted the people who advised her...ohThere are lots of billionaires who are terrible at business. Capitalism isn’t a meritocracy, it’s a lottery. But that’s beside the point. She continually shown herself to be very poor outside of her limited mode for dealing with distressed debt. She’s made poor appointments, sought poor advice, and made rash decisions with no forethought.
“shrewd” is not the word Id use to describe her. That’s just bog standard rich person worship, and I’m an atheist
Also, big red flag for whether someone isn’t shrewd: buying a football club.
I have it on reasonable authority that the gin soaked ashtray Lucas, was quoted of her meetings with Joy as being 'the most difficult hard nosed business person she'd ever dealt with'. When you consider some of the tools she'd have met in local government and a lifetime in the public sector, that's quite a resounding and emphatic statement, although Joy would probably take it as a badge of honour.There are lots of billionaires who are terrible at business. Capitalism isn’t a meritocracy, it’s a lottery. But that’s beside the point. She continually shown herself to be very poor outside of her limited mode for dealing with distressed debt. She’s made poor appointments, sought poor advice, and made rash decisions with no forethought.
“shrewd” is not the word Id use to describe her. That’s just bog standard rich person worship, and I’m an atheist
Also, big red flag for whether someone isn’t shrewd: buying a football club.
Really?
I don’t think she knew much if anything about ccfc until the Northampton farce and questions were raised in the House. of Commons.
been on here loads of times i find it quite interesting. I like a lot of sensible Wasp fans know it would be in our best interests to have CCFC playing at the Ricoh and as such find some of the threads on here quite insightful.
fair point about the Higgs centre but Ryton isn't in CoventryYou mean like the higgs centre (you know the one wasps tried to buy and couldn't afford) or ryton
I will for as long as it lastsEnjoy it whilst you have a club to support
knowing SISU they would if they could
Measured by her personal losses she's probably doing OK tbf
I wasn't necessarily agreeing or disagreeing and only quoted the post in my response as it seemed pertinent to the point I was making. I agree with you that one thing doesn't mean the other, but having not been party to any of those conversations (and I assume neither were you) then it's difficult to assess her business acumen either positively or negatively. I assume she's got more right than wrong over the years although whether that's luck or good judgement I again can't really comment.
I don't mind the abuse as i understand why it comes my way. i have no ill feeling towards CCFC i have family members that are season ticket holders they even went to Northampton. i find it interesting to see the extremes of fans comments as we have the same on our forums. At the start of the season when we lost 5 of the first 6 games i did try to tell people on here that once the new players settled the young talent got game time and the senior players that were injured came back we would be decent team again added to that just about the entire squad has signed new contracts. my take was will we win it? no chance. will we get relegated? no chance. top six? yes with an outside chance of top four if things go really well. the only thing to change is can we win it, we now have a chance but Exeter are head and shoulders above everyone else we all need them to have an off day which doesn't happen very often.
Sisu have had a single dispute that is about ownership of the Ricoh arena.
I've openly said on here that Cov19 has totally destroyed our already fragile finances, how is that not "more shit than the poster cared to mention."
It’s AmericanismNow that’s shrewd
See, it's also a risk of repeating the same endless things
but I've always thought it depends what you want a club to be, as well. I don't necessarily think successful in a business sense is the same as successful stewardship of a club. There's certainly an argument that as a business we should have been closed down long before now, and in effect she's trying to make something from nothing - it's a free hit as we're knackered if she didn't try, knackered if it fails so... if it succeeds we end up with a bit of a bonus.
Without wanting to set off a firestorm I thing joy herself has been a reasonable steward. It’s her awful appointments before (orange ken, Igwe, Fisher etc.) that did a lot of the damage by trying to run the club like any other business. She also had no intention of running a football club, she was sold a dream by Ranson who ran away and left us to people who didn’t have a clue when he didn’t get what he wanted.See, it's also a risk of repeating the same endless things
The counter argument is a club is about a lot more than that, it's about community, relationships with people and place, and that a lot of that was destroyed unneccesarily (and yes, GR, MM, underappreciation by other stakeholders also done similar, but that doesn't negate this particular point). So in many ways the stakes are higher because the actions taken would make it harder to rise from the ashes if we were to fall completely. We can see now, we do better in many of those areas than we have for years but, it's a long way back!
An owner should be a steward, rather than a business person, in my view. Sometimes those two things coincide, as the aim of the steward is to hand the club on to the next party in good shape, but being a steward also means doing things that, at times, aren't necessarily what you would do as a ruthless cut-throat business person.
Well.. we've left the city that bears our name twice since she took a more active interest, that's not a small thing!
I think she had a minimal part to play in Northampton. Basically signing off on Fisher’s plan. Yes she she should be blamed for putting idiots in place but the point still stands. Things have improved immeasurably since she took a more active role, which I believe happened post checkatrade final.
