Liquid Gold
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Feels like forever since that Bournemouth game. I hate the international break.
At least it gives us time to get fit, prepared for Brentford and learn from Bournemouth.
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At least it gives us time to get fit, prepared for Brentford and learn from Bournemouth.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Think we’ll still lose but hope we’ll put up more of a fight
I don't think Brentford have started well, points-wise anyway.
But form is temporary, class is permanent, and i would still expect them to beat us.
Would snatch your hand off for a bore-draw...
David O'Day
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Be happy with a draw.
They still have the bulk of a team that apart from a massive bottle job should of went up
They still have the bulk of a team that apart from a massive bottle job should of went up
shmmeee
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Yeah I respect that. Getting O’Hare was great, he’s not looked out of place at all. But he was here last year so just taking last years squad to this you can’t really claim he’s an improvement.
I do hope we’ll find our feet. We always start slow and that’ll go double this season. But if we do it’ll be down to a mammoth effort from our players to step up.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Like Forest they’ll get going sooner or later. Just don’t want us to make it as easy for sides as we did a few weeks ago. Mind you at least Brentford won’t be shithousers who scythe down half the team so should be a better game
David O'Day
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Pontas Janssen still plays for them
KenilworthSkyBlue
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Whilst true, they've lost the best part of 40 goals in a team that netted 80 last season. Overall they have a great squad still but Watkins' and Benrahma's influence was huge and their departures will surely be felt this season.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Have gained Toney to be fair who will be guaranteed at least a few chances
Fergusons_Beard
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Long but worthwhile tactical breakdown of Satdees game.
https://beestactical.substack.com/p/brentford-fc-v-coventry-city-fc-tactical
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https://beestactical.substack.com/p/brentford-fc-v-coventry-city-fc-tactical
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Covkid1968#
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Was really looking forward to this game.... reading all this and now got a right sinking feeling. Shall go for a couple of beers at 1 and then go and see if we can play at the top of our game combined with a shit load of luck... and sneak a draw. Pffffffff PUSB
KenilworthSkyBlue
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Whilst Brentford paid a premium, Toney was a good buy and should make up at least some of the difference. Whether he'll totally fill Watkins' shoes initially with regards to goals remains to be seen but he's certainly capable of hitting the 15-20 mark at this level.
Looking at who they've bought in, they haven't got a direct replacement for Benrahma though unless they manage to get something over the line tomorrow. Not the end of the world given the quality of their squad but his departure certainly leaves a big hole.
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SkyBlueBee
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Saman Ghoddos is Benrahma’s replacement (we had tried to buy him last season, in anticipation of Benrahma nearly joining Villa)
The way we play generally means we will always have chances , just need someone to be in the box! Maupay got 20 goals before we sold him, Watkins was converted from a winger into a striker last season (as we couldn’t get Lyal Taylor at the deadline) and he got 20 plus goals and now this season “in theory” we have a proper striker upfront in Toney and he should be aiming for 20 as well.
Now watch as Saturday’s match ends 0-0
Londonccfcfan
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Completely agree our strength in depth this year is stand out.
I cant ever remember us making 11 changes from a league game to cup game and performing so well against a decent Gillingham team away.(yes i know we lost) But really we should have won by a country mile.
Point being our 2nd team would do damn well in league 1! The squads depth will come into play this season no doubt.
Londonccfcfan
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As a born n bred Hounslow boy i would never have have envisaged this scenario 25 years ago.
1)We are playing in same league as them.
2)Us being massive underdogs.
3)Them fighting for promotion to premier league us fighting to stay in 2nd tier.
4)They have a wonderfull new stadium we dont have a home.
Gutted to not be able to go to a local game. However.
See us nicking an undeserved draw. But we will take it.
1)We are playing in same league as them.
2)Us being massive underdogs.
3)Them fighting for promotion to premier league us fighting to stay in 2nd tier.
4)They have a wonderfull new stadium we dont have a home.
Gutted to not be able to go to a local game. However.
See us nicking an undeserved draw. But we will take it.
fernandopartridge
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Very few teams prosper after selling their top scorer. Certainly not us.
Sky Blue Harry H
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Both key players and glad they are not about - but Toney will still net 20 plus this season
SleepyGinger
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Marosi
Dabo
Osti
Mcfadz
Hyam
Mccallum
Sheaf
Kelly
Ohare
Allen
Walker
Dabo
Osti
Mcfadz
Hyam
Mccallum
Sheaf
Kelly
Ohare
Allen
Walker
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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We have Godden and Tyler Walker mate they both are aiming for 15-20 goals
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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I think this but Godden over Allen and play 352
Skyblueweeman
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Yeah, let's start judging everyone after 4 games....
We're adjusting at a no doubt tougher league. Arguably the most competitive league on the planet. Hamer has undoubted quality. Sheaf has undoubted quality. The other two aren't fit enough yet.
Remember when everyone was writing off McNulty? He took longer than 4 games to get going but get going he did because he was a good player.
People need to have more faith in the best management team we've had in a lifetime.
SeaSeeEffCee
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Play like we did against Bournemouth and we'll get hammered.
Liquid Gold
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" Coventry then went about making a mockery of Barnsley's box. "
That Barnsley guy who keeps popping up to say they are the world champions at pressing won't like this.
shmmeee
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Its nothing to do with faith in the management team or writing people off after four games. It’s about The fact the first team hasn’t changed from last year aside from one signing to replace our POTS. And whether “the model” works when you’ve made such a jump in quality.
Jesus, I’m on record as saying I’d keep Robins even if we lost 46 games this season, how you’ve twisted it into lack of faith in the management team I’ve no idea.
SlowerThanPlatt
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Fisher did say it wasn’t viable at Championship level - the only clubs our players can realistically go to for a large amount of money is a Premier League one.
So they’re going to have be at least as good as the Bournemouth team we played
So they’re going to have be at least as good as the Bournemouth team we played
fernandopartridge
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We were 5 points ahead in the league when the season ended early, it seems an odd argument to make that the league winners are a League 1 team when they're clearly better than everybody else, significantly so than most. It is arguable that we'd assembled a squad that was better than the level it played out, if untested at the level above.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I've read through your comments and I think you make a very reasoned argument.
It is something I have thought about too and it does concern me. The only thing I would say is that it is still very early at the moment, and a few of our signings have been injured or haven't played much yet. We need to give them some time, as you have said. If we have spent that much on Walker then in my opinion we have to actually play him, and I think we need to find a way to play him and Godden together. Considering our formation is a bit under question and the other attacking midfield role next to O'Hare is lacklustre, for me it makes sense to tinker a bit.
fernandopartridge
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It's worth also saying that the quality of the team doesn't just improve through new signings, we've got a young squad of players, some of whom are not yet at their peak. Their incremental improvements could be enough to make the difference.
The problem with football today is that everybody insists on wholesale change and new signings to improve, very little focus on getting the most of out of what you've got. No wonder the game in this country is on its arse.
The problem with football today is that everybody insists on wholesale change and new signings to improve, very little focus on getting the most of out of what you've got. No wonder the game in this country is on its arse.
kg82
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There’s been 3 players in the team that didn’t play last season (well, one played 10 mins).
shmmeee
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That’s a fair argument to make. I suppose it comes down to how much better do you think we were than everyone else last year (I’d argue good but not miles ahead as our record of close wins and being built on a solid defence would show, we didn’t annihilate teams last year), and how big the jump in quality is between L1/Championship (I’d argue far bigger than the amount we were ahead of L1 already)
Skyblueweeman
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You said this:
I’d rather we bought in two Hamers than Hamer Walker Sheaf and Hilßner if the latter three are going to sit on the bench because they aren’t as good as the L1 players we’ve got.
Do you know the other three are going to sit on the bench all season because they're 'not as good as the L1 players we've got'? No.
Don't you think MR and his team know what they're doing with the players they've brought in? Yes.
There's only one of us who has experience of twisting what the other one has said in previous conversations between us and it isn't me.
ccfcchris
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Brentford 3-1
Reason For Brentford vs Coventry Predictions
Their early wobble is perhaps a little understandable considering they only lost a Play-Off Final a matter of weeks ago – a heartache which came soon after they agonisingly fell short of achieving automatic promotion to the Premier League. Add in the loss of talisman Ollie Watkins to Aston Villa and it becomes easy to empathise with their recent adjustments.
A 2-4 home defeat to Preston North End last time out was a world away from the heights that Thomas Frank’s men were hitting in 2019/20, but this Saturday’s fixture against newly promoted Coventry looks an ideal opportunity for the Bees to return to winning ways.
Like Brentford, The Sky Blues also have four points on the board from their opening four matches, but their efforts so far suggest they’re going to find life tough back at this level.
They were soundly beaten 1-3 by Bournemouth last time out and have collected just one point from away games against Bristol City (2-1) and Barnsley (0-0). Brentford should be too strong this Saturday despite conceding nine goals in their first four outings and we’re predicting a 3-1 triumph for the home side.
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Reason For Brentford vs Coventry Predictions
- Coventry have collected just one point from their two away games this season.
- Brentford have won seven of their last ten home league matches.
- However, the hosts have conceded nine goals in their first four games this term.
Their early wobble is perhaps a little understandable considering they only lost a Play-Off Final a matter of weeks ago – a heartache which came soon after they agonisingly fell short of achieving automatic promotion to the Premier League. Add in the loss of talisman Ollie Watkins to Aston Villa and it becomes easy to empathise with their recent adjustments.
A 2-4 home defeat to Preston North End last time out was a world away from the heights that Thomas Frank’s men were hitting in 2019/20, but this Saturday’s fixture against newly promoted Coventry looks an ideal opportunity for the Bees to return to winning ways.
Like Brentford, The Sky Blues also have four points on the board from their opening four matches, but their efforts so far suggest they’re going to find life tough back at this level.
They were soundly beaten 1-3 by Bournemouth last time out and have collected just one point from away games against Bristol City (2-1) and Barnsley (0-0). Brentford should be too strong this Saturday despite conceding nine goals in their first four outings and we’re predicting a 3-1 triumph for the home side.
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shmmeee
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Clearly you’re bringing some beef over from another conversation. I can’t help you with that.
I mean, yes I do think they aren’t as good, because they’re sat on the bench (or in Hilßner’s case not even getting in the U23s). That would suggest Robins also thinks they aren’t as good *right now*. They may get better with training, but right now they aren’t displacing the existing players. That’s fine when you’re slowly building a squad, but, as the point I’ve repeatedly made that you are desperate to avoid asks: can we afford to not have an increase in first team quality immediately when the quality of opposition has undergone such a step change?
Or as I’ve said repeatedly: does “the model” work for the jump from L1 to the Championship?