Brighton Sky Blue
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Because everything good has to be ruined
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Because everything good has to be ruined
chiefdave
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Mark Pawsey, the Conservative MP for Rugby has just asked Johnson the same question. The response, "There's a budget of measures that we need to bring together to get the R down and alas, when you start unpicking one bit, logically a lot of the rest of it comes undone.".
Ian1779
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The article is updated now that shows Foodbanks in the open category.... which is a relief at least.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Could have closed schools and not ruined businesses but he wanted to be a prick
Ian1779
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I love how these pricks pretend they give a fuck about education when they haven’t for the last 10 years.
clint van damme
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Bit like the fuckers banging on about the effect of lock down on mental health who supported austerity which sent mental health issues sky rocketing and cut services and they never said a word about it
David O'Day
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Why have I only noticed now that the head of the vaccines task force is married to a government minister?
Figures always slowdown on sat sun and mond then jump on Tuesday.
Sky Blue Pete
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I know I just wondered what figure was last Monday.
Checked it’s
Infections - 20890 so today is 2000 less from last monday
Deaths - 102 so an increase of 34 on last Monday
Interesting
chiefdave
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To be honest at this point it would be a bigger shock if that wasn't the case.
fernandopartridge
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Cases isn't usually lagged but deaths are. Hopefully the growth in cases is slowing now, just don't think it'll turn around to anywhere near the level needed in 4 weeks given how high the residual number of cases is. Hospital admissions still on the rise and now at 1500 a day which means big numbers of deaths pretty much locked in for a while yet.
Can't find the data but does anybody know what proportion of hospitalisations end up in ICU?
I think it will be interesting to see what the data is in a week or ten days’ time, after we have had a week’s worth of data from children being back in school
shmmeee
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fernandopartridge
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Rishi Sunak openly lying in a twitter post about the government's supply of money. These cunts don't give a fuck about mental health, they're piling it on for Austerity on Stilts which will no doubt have major effects on mental health, physical health, education and everything else like the last 10 years has.
SBAndy
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Please direct me to this tweet.
shmmeee
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Evo1883
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Just watched a Q and A with a scientist from Coventry(think that's correct) on bbc news and one of teh questions was why is it OK for my kids to go to school but not play football... And the answer basically was you could argue outdoor football was better and safer but school is more important to children.... 
Importance over safety... The universities being open is senseless too
Importance over safety... The universities being open is senseless too
Sky Blue Pete
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He’s right isn’t he?? There’s an argument for shutting everything as otherwise it’s too subjective and this argument plays out across swimming pools or gyms or places of worship. They are all important for fitness or wellbeing. Should have had a circuit breaker week before half term and half term and week after then go againJust watched a Q and A with a scientist from Coventry(think that's correct) on bbc news and one of teh questions was why is it OK for my kids to go to school but not play football... And the answer basically was you could argue outdoor football was better and safer but school is more important to children....
Evo1883
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The one I can't get my head around is universities... There is obviously a much greater risk of spread because of age, living together, parties etc.... When they can simply learn online can't they?
Universities should close
shmmeee
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Two reasons:
- Vice Chancellors scared of a funding crisis with students deferring rather than going online
- Tory donors being property investors with a heavy stake in the student lets market
So you’ve got unis that don’t want to (at the top) and a government that doesn’t want to either.
Sky Blue Harry H
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Don't care if this is slightly off topic, but whilst everybody is going through this crap, I just received a call from my bank (guffaw) asking me to confirm authorisation of a payment. He started with a 'as you know your bank would never call you' at which point I lost my usual sarcastic tone and asked him to have a look in the mirror about ringing up vulnerable people (I'm not in terms of scammers) in the current circumstances. He persisted undeterred at which point I got increasingly hostile until he hung up. Boils my p*ss these people do. (I've had to 'recsue' my 86 year old stepfather from these people on a couple of occasions when the daft sod has authorised payments in the thousands (one of which was part purchase in a yacht, and he still never realised he was being scammed !
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Woo hoo.....Mass rapid testing coming to Liverpool.....with the Army in attendance!
.....Only about 6 weeks too late to avoid the already over-run hospitals where potential life saving non-covid procedures are now being cancelled on a regular basis due to a lack of capacity......
Of course, all the non-maskers & deniers who are responsible for the community spread wont get tested.....all the good citizens will get tested, exposing the obvious high levels of asymptomatic cases........Net result will be EVERYTHING will get locked down proper until 2021.
.....Only about 6 weeks too late to avoid the already over-run hospitals where potential life saving non-covid procedures are now being cancelled on a regular basis due to a lack of capacity......
Of course, all the non-maskers & deniers who are responsible for the community spread wont get tested.....all the good citizens will get tested, exposing the obvious high levels of asymptomatic cases........Net result will be EVERYTHING will get locked down proper until 2021.
chiefdave
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Good news but as ever this will only be effective with working track and trace.
fernandopartridge
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I don't understand why the UK media, so willing to show overrun hospitals in Italy in February this year do so little to show what's going on in hospitals on Merseyside
Sky Blue Pete
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BBC last night
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Their argument is also access to facilities (labs, technology, documents, books etc) wouldn't be available if they locked down.
I agree btw, it's crazy, because as with everything and everybody else, it means adapting for a (relatively) short space of time... but that's the argument.
Ccfcisparks
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I see former Cov legend David Icke has now got a bigger following with all the COVID conspiracy theorists. I can't believe lockdown has gotten to people that much that they are starting to believe his bull shit.
So much of the printed/online media is right wing though that they continue to snipe at the BBC. Even though it is the second biggest pile of crud on earth (closely behind Nigel Farage), the Mail Online gets a massive volume of clicks...it was even worse under the stewardship of Paul Dacre
I still think it can be linked to Brexit; got to show that Brits are tough and don’t need any help...that British is best
chiefdave
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But that argument falls apart when the government is pushing the universities to deliver courses entirely online but also not allow students to leave campus.
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That's a fair while ago they said that (in relative terms!).
Look, I'm all for them shutting down, trust me(!) but I can safely say the universities (or some of them, at least) are somewhat more reticent about it. They want to supply their 'world leading service' so they keep getting students coming and paying their fees.
The only answer is to move what you can online and have the gov bail out the unis for lost students/deferrals. We need to stop tinkering around the edges hoping the virus just disappears and actually take some decisive action.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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For me that just goes to prove it was all about the student letting market, which many Tory donors are currently heavily invested in and spending large sums to make new ones.
That courses are now being done online shows this was always possible, so the argument that they needed to be in lectures etc to learn was an excuse. It was simply to get them back into the accommodation and paying the rent at which point they could effectively lock them in and move it online. If it can be done online they could have done it from their homes without having them travel all around the country potentially spreading the disease.
And that shows what the priority is for this government - not following the science, not what best protects people, but money. Even then it's about a specific part of the economy - the bits they're heavily invested in. If you run a small local business they don't really give a fuck. If you're part of thier set then you should have your business interests protected.
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They're not, in certain (prestigious) universities.
Lectures are being minimised (but not being got rid of entirely), but small group tuition, and use of facilities, are encouraged.
clint van damme
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Just watched a Q and A with a scientist from Coventry(think that's correct) on bbc news and one of teh questions was why is it OK for my kids to go to school but not play football... And the answer basically was you could argue outdoor football was better and safer but school is more important to children....
I know there's more important things going on at the moment but I'm gutted that last night was my last game of 5 a side for a while. Really sorts me out for the week having a good run around on a Monday night.